Not a nurse? Then, why does LPN stand for Licensed Practical Nurse? - page 3

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  1. Visit  tjmiller profile page
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    Wow! Great reading here! Would like to add that those comments have been from CNA's and RN's.
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  3. Visit  Still Standing profile page
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    In my area the only difference between each level is 3 classes. That's if you are done with all basic courses or prerequisites. The first two semesters of NS the RN and LPN students are put in the same classes at most schools in this state. To get accepted into the program they require the same thing.

    I believe that once some people get out of NS and start on their Nursing career they forget how they got there and what it took for them to get to the position they are now. And the same mistreatment can be used towards Nursing students during their (our) clinical rotations. Why must some Nurses fill the need to be rude and unprofessional towards nursing students. Did you forget that you had to get through NS to get where you are?
  4. Visit  Still Standing profile page
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    Quote from tjmiller
    Wow! Great reading here! Would like to add that those comments have been from CNA's and RN's.
    CNA's I believe that act they way are jealous by the fact that you are a nurse. Some of my classmates have experienced CNA's being mean towards them during clinicals as well I believe its jealousy.
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  5. Visit  SCSTxRN profile page
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    I laughed at my son while I was going through the transition.. sn.. gn.. rn, because of the names he would come up with to go with the letters on my name tag. (Silly nurse, Good nurse or Great nurse, Regular nurse / Real nurse/ Ratty nurse, depending on his mood of the day)

    The job of LVN demands work ethic, smarts, and a certain sense of self worth that comes from the inside. Some of the very best RN's I've worked with were LVNs for years - and (IME) they're different from the people who were RN's for years in that the people who were RNs from the beginning seem to be burnt out, where as the people who progress through the ranks over the years (usually) seem to be always working towards some sort of growth. Of course, that's probably just the growth personality causing them to progress through the ranks... but the outcome is the same.

    Anyway - my oldest child is looking at becoming a nurse now. I told him I'd pay for LVN school. He told me, "You started at RN." My response? If I had it to do over, I'd start LVN.
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  6. Visit  SCSTxRN profile page
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    tcstr05,

    My response is probably going to be unpopular - but to be honest, in nursing school, I learned the most from the nurses that most of my classmates considered grouchy old krones. They looked for ways that we had messed up, and 'intentionally gave us lousy assignments'. Some of them were LVNs, and some of my classmates mentioned how much they would enjoy being their supervisors and changing the scenery...

    As a student then, and as a nurse now, students like that are hard to teach because they're not really there to learn. It's not being mean to say something has to be done a certain way, or to push a student to learn in an environment they'd rather eschew for some paperwork... it's teaching. Specifically, it's teaching someone the reality and the work that is involved in the career that they are going to school for.

    That said, perhaps the preceptors where you work are truly awful - if that's the case, I'm sorry you're going through that. Learn what you can. It was my experience as a student that most of the time when I thought people were being mean to me it was because I was being obtuse and not catching what they were trying to teach. The more open I was to learning and growth experiences (even the gross ones), the more interested they were in helping me learn, teaching me how to do skills, and showing me their tricks (i.e. a 'brain' sheet). That's my experience, of course YMMV.
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  7. Visit  sweetlander2003 profile page
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    In most states there are regulations which mandate who can use the word " nurse" and the last time I checked LVN/LPN and RN are the only two professionals who can call themselves nurses. maybe the next time someone says something about LPN/LVN not a nurse then maybe you can point their ignorance?
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  8. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    Your state may have it in law that an RN can be called a nurse but an LVN cannot. I have read this kind of discussion before.

    In any case check up on the laws in your state.

    There is also a possibility that you were talking to an ignorant person regarding what an LVN is.
  9. Visit  JDZ344 profile page
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    Quote from tjmiller
    Know a RN who refuses to toilet her pt because she already "done that job" and will call the CNA to get a call light. YIKES!
    That is just lazy.
    Last edit by JDZ344 on May 14, '14
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  10. Visit  JDZ344 profile page
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    Quote from kalevra
    Your state may have it in law that an RN can be called a nurse but an LVN cannot. I have read this kind of discussion before.

    In any case check up on the laws in your state.

    There is also a possibility that you were talking to an ignorant person regarding what an LVN is.
    Wow, even though the word NURSE is in the title? Weird! We don't have LPNs here. We used to have enrolled nurses, which I think was the same thing, but they phased them out.
  11. Visit  kalevra profile page
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    Quote from KatieP86
    Wow, even though the word NURSE is in the title? Weird! We don't have LPNs here. We used to have enrolled nurses, which I think was the same thing, but they phased them out.
    Yeah I know weird right. But there are old threads about this some where in the archives on this site
  12. Visit  Still Standing profile page
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    SCSTxRN,
    You are absolutely right, but I'm mainly talking about in common courtesy, just walking down the hall ways during orientation and being introduced to staff, it's sad how many people felt the need to go out their way to roll their eyes or look the other way when we're just saying good morning or being introduced.
  13. Visit  NurseGuyBri profile page
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    Any RN that speaks to anyone in that way has reduced his/her integrity and professionalism. I am an RN, I was an LPN. I know that both are invaluable as healthcare partners. I wish everyone agreed. I have to say that I am really glad that I was an LPN prior to RN because it changed my outlook on things. I worked my butt off for RN, but I did for LPN too. Do *not* ever let anyone say "just a LPN " or "just a CNA". It is the worst phrase and divides us- we need way more together and a lot less apart.

    I have a large tattoo on my lateral LLE (lol) that says L.P.N. surrounded by wings and a syringe. It's a permanent reminder that No matter how far UP I go, I'm never above anyone. Humility goes a long way.

    LPN= Loving, Passionate Nurse

    B
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  14. Visit  Glycerine82 profile page
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    Quote from wmassnurse
    I worked as a CNA while in school for my BSN. While I've never been an LPN, I've worked with several in both LTC and acute care. I also get the question (although my badge says RN in large letters) if I'm an RN or LPN. One day my patient asked me that and then chuckled, stating "that means real nurse, right?". I was so infuriated. I put on my sweetest smile and said "Actually it stands for registered nurse. And your nurse today, the LPN? She has 20 years of experience on me, I think if anyone is a "real nurse" it's her."

    Like another posted, people will always have something to say about CNA vs LPN vs RN and ADN vs BSN...you just have to roll with it. As long as you are working in an environment where your coworkers are supportive and not making these sorts of comments, and you're confident in your own skills, keep your chin up!
    Great post. I'm contemplating getting my LPN first so I finish faster. Recently I've had a few comments that I don't really work in the medical field as a CNA. Huh?!?

    "No day but today"


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