I BLEW MY CHANCE !! - page 2
I had a last minute interview today and everything was going well, untill the last question. "Would I be be confident enought to handle 49 residents by myself". and my dumb response was; I am... Read More
4Feb 11, '13 by notmanydaysoffthat's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of question. bleh!
I try to not answer those types of inquiries directly, cause honestly, you can't win.
my response would have been in a question form, to drive the conversation away from me. probably something to the effect -
"do pt: nurse ratios generally run that high"
"how does current staff manage"
"is there back-up"
"what is the pt acuity"
seek information. that's (almost always) legit.
0Feb 12, '13 by AngelicDarknessOP you were honest with her and I applaud you for that. I remember my first interview being scared about the ratio being much higher. I was hired on as a night charge nurse for a RH of 105 patients. I remember being nervous but I accepted the challenge. I learned so much experience from it - it truly made me a better nurse. The best way to see if your able to is to accept the training from the facility. After training with a mentor you will know how much you can handle
3Feb 12, '13 by Maremma, LPNHonesty is ALWAYS the best policy! 49 patients? Really? How heavy are the med passes? How many chem sticks? How many g-tubes? How many crushed med patients Etc? Could you REALLY safely and accurately get them all out in the two hour windows (three if they split the halls for admin times) What ELSE are you ALSO responsible for in an 8 hour shift?
Unless you know what you are REALLY dealing with there is NO way to honestly say you could handle something or not. On an overnight shift sure 49 may be doable but day or second? I would question ANY nurse that would say "Oh sure piece of cake" and not even know what all is involved and expected of them.
I work with some of those type. Umm they also sign for meds that aren't even opened yet or even in the building. The patients "mysteriously" always have super high chem sticks only after THEY worked the shift before me. The patients supplements they signed for are still in the fridge when I go to get mine for my shift. The patients are literally lined up waiting for me to come in to tell me something is wrong because "They tell other nurse's but they don't DO anything about it and so they have given up on them" What about the patients that CAN'T come and tell you something is wrong?
Is THAT the kind of nursing YOU want to be providing? Probably not and that is exactly why you questioned whether you can REALLY do what they are expecting you to do. Consider how you would feel and what would happen to you when you are scrambling to get all those meds out safely and someone is deteriorating but you are so frantic getting meds out you missed it?
You absolutely did the right thing by questioning this and being honest. Now if ALL nurse's would just have that good conscience and not pretend they can do more than we really can humanely do maybe things would change for the better for both nurse's and patients.
2Feb 12, '13 by andreasmom02Quote from FaithGurl93I agree. Your honesty was probably best. Plus, if she was that rude, it might not be the best facility to work at. Have you applied other places? I know the economy isn't great, and it's "slim pickings" with most jobs, but don't beat yourself up over it.Better for you to had been honest then than to say "i can handle it" and be making mistakes and get fired for it.
Sometimes not taking some jobs can be a blessing. I almost took a clinic job for a private doctor office a few weeks ago. I had a great interview, & the doctor wanted to meet me a few days later after the interview. Just before going in to meet with the doctor on a Monday, I texted a friend LPN the Saturday before, & asked her if she knew anything about that office. Her first response was "RUN!!!!!" Turns out she had worked there recently for just 4 weeks when she was between jobs. She said it was TERRIBLE. The doctor yelled constantly, worked his nurses to death, and the office was a great place to catch every illness coming & going. I of couse turned the position down. The nurse supervisor who interviewed me for the job wasn't too happy that I didn't take it. But last I heard they still couldn't find the doctor a nurse... lol
1Feb 12, '13 by VespertinasYou went with your gut and when you land your real job, you'll see that your mind was steering you toward what was meant for you.
When I started interviewing as a new grad, I had no idea what specialty I wanted. I'm excellent at interviews but when I interviewed on an orthopedic surgery floor, I just couldn't keep myself from yawning nonstop. Anyway, I didn't recognize it at the time but I think it was for the best (for me).
I wish I thought twice when one manager asked me, "How do you think you'll deal with co-workers who are unsupportive and possibly undermining?" RED FLAG!! An honest answer may have saved me some trouble.
3Feb 12, '13 by ElizaWThat answer might have cost you the job, but don't beat yourself up about it. Do you WANT to handle 49 patients by yourself? I don't. I think that's a ridiculous patient load even if there are no diabetics and very few meds. Personally, if someone is dying on my unit, I want to have the time to sit with him and hold his hand. If someone needs a shoulder to cry on, I want to be able to offer it. If someone falls I want to be able to assess them, get them up off the floor, see that they are safe, get them transported to the hospital if warranted, fill out the incident report AND take care of everyone else on the unit. With 49 patients, I just don't see that happening.
I think you did yourself a favor by answerring honestly. Now you don't have to work in an abusive environment providing insufficient care to the people under your charge. Breathe a sigh of relief, do a little dance, and send out some more resumes.
PS - If she calls to offer you the job - run away.Last edit by ElizaW on Feb 12, '13 : Reason: big, dumb typo
0Feb 12, '13 by JeanettePNPI think when we go into a job interview, we are so much into the "get this job" mode that we don't realize that there are two sides to the equation. They're sizing you up to see if you're a right fit for them, but you're also sizing them up to see if the job is right for you. So, if you don't get this job, it's not because "you blew it." You made the appropriate response and saved yourself from getting into an impossible situation. I have interviewed for jobs I wanted and didn't get, but I have also interviewed for jobs that made me walk out and realize that I really did NOT want the job.
1Feb 13, '13 by uRNmywayI'm going to agree with other posters. As a new grad, I think that patient load is way too heavy. Heck, I think it is kind of heavy even for someone who has some experience.
First, if you really honestly feel that 49 patients is too much for you, then why are you upset at 'blowing it'? Clearly if she asked the question it is because that is what your work load would be!
Second, if she really treated you as rudely as you say, I personally would be thinking about how I dodged a bullet from avoiding such negative people on top of the risk to your livelihood if you make mistakes due to unsafe patient loads.
Just my two cents.