Nursing schools in Iloilo or Davao for a problematic American?

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Specializes in Occ Health; Med/Surg; ICU.

I'm an American RN. I'd like to study nursing in RP, preferably Davao (San Pedro) or Iloilo (West Visayas State) though I'd consider another school. I want a NLE 'school' pass rate of >75% and desire a city that is devoid of pollution (I get asthma) and a city where the city itself and the people are 'sweet,' and it's safe.

I'm interested in International Nursing, especially in the emerging Asian field of Occupational and Environmental Nursing, and what better way is there to experience it other than going to a foreign school. There is another 'secret reason' too, so don't tell anyone but I'd love to find love in the RP, you see I'm single and don't like American women, and do like filipina's sense of family, morality and community. Remember, this is a secret.... keep it under your hat please.

Now I'll admit, I come with a few, uh, possible problems... I'm a guy, I'm ooooooold by RP standards, try 48. And I'm possibly over-educated. I've a BS in chemistry and another in Safety Studies/Engineering. My Nursing degree is an ADN (Associates of Nursings) which is not accepted in RP. I've four years of experience but that experience includes a stint in a medical/surgical ward, and one in Adult ICU (Intensive Care Unit) in a major 400 bed/1000+ doctor tertiary care hospital. (see www.dhmc.org) I sort of fell into a 'fast track' program. I guess that makes me experienced. After two years I left ICU and moved to Occupational & Environmental Nursing and am a clinic RN manager at GM (General Motors). I love my job! Woo hoo....

Ok, back to RP. The problem is that I could probably teach a good deal of the courses that I will be expected to take which will be, at best, rather boring. So here are my questions:

Can anyone recommend or explain how a 'second courser' fits in?

Will I be automatically rejected due to my age?

Can I practice in any category in RP say in a clinic for the poor, as a volunteer? Or must I wait till I achieve the BSN?

Any general suggestions would be appreciated. Again I desire a good school, that will welcome this 'old' dude (I promise I'll be good in class) at a smaller city (not Manila) with clean air, nice people and no sword wielding Abu Sayaff types (unless they are looking for a volunteer nurse just for nursing) Positives for being able to deal with older students, second (or third) coursers, a nice environment, and a place where an American that learns the local language might be accepted.

Please feel free to respond privately here or in forum.

Specializes in School Nursing / Education.

1. School passing rate of >75% in a province

> This is possible but most of these provinces are situated in commercial/industrial areas which can really affect your health. If there are really provincial schools which you prefer, I don't think they'd give the quality that you are loging for. I guess what you really needed is some sort of "additional" to what you have earned before (during college) or your "add something" from what you've learned during your work.

> Majority of the high performing colleges and universities are located in NCR/Metro Manila and its surrounding provinces, and provincial capitals

2. Age restrictions

> NO AGE RESTRICTIONS. lol. As long as you got the bucks ^_^ I got some classmates who are even third coursers with ages ranging from 4x to 5x, and falling asleep on the peak of class ^_^

3. Safety

> Better hide your bucks to be safe. Seriously, I don't think there are no safe place in the world (except for Switzerland ^_^). I am not saying that it is too dangerous in the country. I should have been killed already if it is (being too adventurous and always out of town) - should have been abducted. And to be safe, DO NOT GO to those provinces with serious advisory/threats i.e. terrorist zone, high bombing incidences, etc.

I really cannot suggest for any schools as of now.. ^_^ All I can give now are infos regarding your concern

I would suggest A lot of people from the West will tell visitors notthe Davao area, I spend most of my time there, I have a house in Digos about 60 kilometers south of Davao. The mayor makes sure Davao is a very safe area for all, and Filipino's will go out of thier way to make you feel welcomed in about any area of PI.

You may hear that the Mindanao region is unsafe for foreigners, but I have never seen this, Of course stay away from Abu Sayaff strongholds like Jolo Sulu, but I travel all over Mindanao region via MotorBike, Bus, and I have never had a problem.

Why don't you scout out some schools, and then go spend a month there visiting the area. I suggest you stay away from Manila area, most people I know (Including Me) can't stand Manila. It's not a good reflection of PI.

I know a handful of ex pats who have set up house in PI. Most seem to be very happy.

West Visayas State University and St Paul's University in Iloilo requires an entrance exam, and the last I heard is that they do not accept 2nd coursers, but I might be wrong. Better check out their homepages.

Technically a 2nd courser is anyone who takes up another degree after finishing or graduating an equal but prior bachelor's degree. In some schools 2nd coursers can be fast tracked, if the subjects/units in their prior degrees are credited, and start in the 2nd year or even 3rd year level of the degree. However, since your degree comes from overseas, you might find it hard to have your subjects credited, even if they might be superior or better. ( Even for locals it is hard. I transferred from a top university to a smaller college, i got only about 10 out 50 credited.) :madface:

About practicing: Guess you might have an idea for the reciprocity thing. Even US RNs cant practice in the PI if they cant pass the NLE and get the license. The nearest thing you can even volunteer for is to be a nursing aide, and i dont think you would want that. So you really have to wait for the BSN to be able to take the exam, and taking the exam itself has its own problems, you being an American citizen.

I'll post something again if something that fits your requirements comes up.:wink2:

""I'm interested in International Nursing, especially in the emerging Asian field of Occupational and Environmental Nursing, and what better way is there to experience it other than going to a foreign school. There is another 'secret reason' too, so don't tell anyone but I'd love to find love in the RP, you see I'm single and don't like American women, and do like filipina's sense of family, morality and community. Remember, this is a secret.... keep it under your hat please. "

Since you have a ASN and BS you could get your MSN in the USA in a much shorter time period. Your employer will pay some of the cost. You could do you thesis on the Asian Nursing. It seems middle age men don't have any problems finding young willing Philippine woman who you can have a relationship with without being a nurse.

I'm an American RN. I'd like to study nursing in RP, preferably Davao (San Pedro) or Iloilo (West Visayas State) though I'd consider another school. I want a NLE 'school' pass rate of >75% and desire a city that is devoid of pollution (I get asthma) and a city where the city itself and the people are 'sweet,' and it's safe.

I'm interested in International Nursing, especially in the emerging Asian field of Occupational and Environmental Nursing, and what better way is there to experience it other than going to a foreign school. There is another 'secret reason' too, so don't tell anyone but I'd love to find love in the RP, you see I'm single and don't like American women, and do like filipina's sense of family, morality and community. Remember, this is a secret.... keep it under your hat please.

Well talk about stereotyping. I find it offensive that a member of the human race buys into this myth that the women of any one nation or society has a better sense of family, morality, etc.

I guess women who can think for themselves, volunteer in their community and churches, raise their families, and have good morals but have the disadvantage of not being Phillipino can be grateful that you chose to attempt to find a partner elsewhere. But then marriage is a partnership, what you seem to be expecting is an unequal balance of power in a relationship.

Just as many men as women have poor morals, lack of a sense of family and community.

Another approach would be to consider teaching or getting your Masters in a related field (Biology/Chem/or Education) but not necessarily practice nursing in the Philippines. Expats here in Baguio City (central Luzon Mountain Region) have completed Masters and PhD levels at Saint Luis University (SLU) which also ranks in the top 1% of graduate nursing licensure exams. http://www.slu.edu.ph/index.jsp

Baguio City is located at 5,000ft elevation with "relatively" clean air compared to the lowland cities in the Philippines and has the mildest temperature in the Philippines. With 5 Universities here in Baguio, your chance of meeting an educated Filipina are substantial!!

Now for the shocker, you will NOT believe the population density here in the Philippines...Manila makes Mexico City look positively spacious, while smaller communities have managed to build structures within millimeters of each other to squeeze as many human beings as possible in limited spaces. The country has 200,000,000 residents crammed into a space the size of Arizona......

That said, my 43 year old Filipina wife is in her 4th year BSN, along with my daughter, son and son in law, all graduating next year then off to Seattle and Vancouver to begin their careers. Having moved here from Montana, I get tickled at the complaint that Baguio City is too "cold"...lol...

Check out the SLU website, consider a teaching position or a pursuit of your Masters while here in the Philippines. Also, remember a Nurse makes 200.00 / month salary, teachers mabey a little more. However, the life experience and the love quotient is way off the scale compared to anywhere else in the world!! You will go positively mad with joy at the attitude that Filipinas have toward marriage, family, and the care giving mentality that makes them the most demanded nurses throughout the world.

Good luck my "young" friend...

Hoss

64 and driving towards 100....

Technically, most colleges and universities in the Philippines accept "second coursers". On some of these institutions, you can get your previous subjects and classes credited allowing you to bypass the minor subjects and end up being a irregular student and/or be grouped with other second coursers and start as sophomores which enables you to graduate within 3 years.

Other nursing schools, especially the elite and high-performing universities, require students to start as freshmen regardless of their previous college education or the lack thereof.

When looking at passing rates, make sure that you'ld also consider the number of examinees of that nursing school. There are schools that consistently get 100% passing rate BUT only have very minimal number of examinees. This is because they choose who can take the exam base on who they think can pass. This usually happens on June exams that's why when you look at their NLE history, they have more examinees during December but get low passing rate.

I've researched about the top performing schools of the last five years and here are what I recommend:

For IloIlo: St. Paul University - consistent for the last 5 years or so on achieving 80s-90s % passing rate on both June and December (changed last year to November) exams w/ less than or a little over 100 examinees everytime.

For Davao: none. I have not seen any university that have been performining consistently well on the licensure exam. The popular candidate is Ateneo de Davao University: gets anywhere from 60s-90s % passing rate but they do let all their graduates to take the exams whenever they wish to do so.

Other top-performing schools in southern Philippines that you might be interested in:

Cebu Doctors' University (Cebu) - the first and only medical university in the Philippines; consistent passing percentage in the 90s on both June and December exams for the last five years. They also let their graduates take the exam whenever they want thus the 200s-400s number of examinees everytime.

Silliman University (Dumaguete) - also consistent in the 90s with more than 100 number of examinees everytime

Specializes in Occ Health; Med/Surg; ICU.

Well talk about stereotyping. I find it offensive that a member of the human race buys into this myth that the women of any one nation or society has a better sense of family, morality, etc.

The book: Lust in Translation by Pamela Druckerman (2007) studies and analyzes statistical data on infidelity throughout the world. Of the fifty countries analyzed only two indicated a female infidelity rate of 0, those countries are RP and Nepal.

I maintain that at least related to the sense of morality related to marriage and infidelity there is unquestionably no myth. If you wish to maintain this point of view as a myth please substantiate it. I am curious in seeing your data.

Frankly I find the average (note I say: "average) American woman shallow, overly status-oriented and lacking in a sense of spirituality and values. I am sure there are exceptions, perhaps I have just been too unlucky to find them.

Its nice that you considered Iloilo and Davao. St. Pauls University Iloilo and West Visayas State University were consistent topnotchers on the NLE. WVSU dont accept second coursers as a policy. You can try http://www.spusystem.edu.ph/ . St Pauls Iloilo is one of the six schools. You can also try St. Pauls Tuguegarao .

Dont try anything foolish, the nuns will be watching you. Good for your spirituality.

Specializes in School Nursing / Education.

And that is the reason why most American men are looking for Asians, preferably Filipinas ^_^

Specializes in Occ Health; Med/Surg; ICU.

Just as many men as women have poor morals, lack of a sense of family and community.

Well, talk about stereotyping...I wonder if I should find that offensive (but I don't, because men, world-wide do seem to have poorer morals... American men are right there with the bulk of them too...

Good point Fiona!

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