Nursing schools in Iloilo or Davao for a problematic American?

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I'm an American RN. I'd like to study nursing in RP, preferably Davao (San Pedro) or Iloilo (West Visayas State) though I'd consider another school. I want a NLE 'school' pass rate of >75% and desire a city that is devoid of pollution (I get asthma) and a city where the city itself and the people are 'sweet,' and it's safe.

I'm interested in International Nursing, especially in the emerging Asian field of Occupational and Environmental Nursing, and what better way is there to experience it other than going to a foreign school. There is another 'secret reason' too, so don't tell anyone but I'd love to find love in the RP, you see I'm single and don't like American women, and do like filipina's sense of family, morality and community. Remember, this is a secret.... keep it under your hat please.

Now I'll admit, I come with a few, uh, possible problems... I'm a guy, I'm ooooooold by RP standards, try 48. And I'm possibly over-educated. I've a BS in chemistry and another in Safety Studies/Engineering. My Nursing degree is an ADN (Associates of Nursings) which is not accepted in RP. I've four years of experience but that experience includes a stint in a medical/surgical ward, and one in Adult ICU (Intensive Care Unit) in a major 400 bed/1000+ doctor tertiary care hospital. (see www.dhmc.org) I sort of fell into a 'fast track' program. I guess that makes me experienced. After two years I left ICU and moved to Occupational & Environmental Nursing and am a clinic RN manager at GM (General Motors). I love my job! Woo hoo....

Ok, back to RP. The problem is that I could probably teach a good deal of the courses that I will be expected to take which will be, at best, rather boring. So here are my questions:

Can anyone recommend or explain how a 'second courser' fits in?

Will I be automatically rejected due to my age?

Can I practice in any category in RP say in a clinic for the poor, as a volunteer? Or must I wait till I achieve the BSN?

Any general suggestions would be appreciated. Again I desire a good school, that will welcome this 'old' dude (I promise I'll be good in class) at a smaller city (not Manila) with clean air, nice people and no sword wielding Abu Sayaff types (unless they are looking for a volunteer nurse just for nursing) Positives for being able to deal with older students, second (or third) coursers, a nice environment, and a place where an American that learns the local language might be accepted.

Please feel free to respond privately here or in forum.

Specializes in Occ Health; Med/Surg; ICU.

Thank you all for your posts. Nice solid info Rene3, and well, the nuns never caught me being foolish in sixth grade so I'll bet that they can't catch me now either...hehe... (A guy's gotta have some fun... the don't use rulers now do they?)

Have you considered teaching? There are a lot of NCLEX review centers who'd be willing to accept you, and your age would actually work for you since older instructors would often mean more experience.

The pay would be better as well. There are review centers that pay up to 8,000 Pesos per day (That's what an RN here earns in a month)

Have you considered teaching? There are a lot of NCLEX review centers who'd be willing to accept you, and your age would actually work for you since older instructors would often mean more experience.

The pay would be better as well. There are review centers that pay up to 8,000 Pesos per day (That's what an RN here earns in a month)

8,000 pesos per day in PI ?

If so, I may just have to go to a Communinty College and get my 2 year degree and sit for NCLEX and then I have found my job calling in PI.:smokin:

Yeah thats what my professors earned per day lecturing in a 100 student capacity hall. Of course these were seasoned lecturers with decades of experience and lots of letters following their name.

Specializes in Occ Health; Med/Surg; ICU.

Thanks for the suggestion but I have heard that it is almost impossible for an American to get the visa to do any work, unless a company says there are no equivalent potential teachers there. But I would assume that the customs people would assume that any graduate is capable of teaching NCLEX.

Actually that would be fun. Success with the NCLEX is more than simply knowing the facts. NCLEX, especially as the test gets on, gets harder. The test actually starts giving you tidbits which are misleading and I suspect that many fail that way.

Also I have noticed on a site called okcupid.com where you can take these tests and then see how compatible you are with another. I have found there that people from RP answer questions, often totally misinterpreting what the question in really asking for. In a way I would think that this might be the most valuable thing, assuming good prior knowledge--that being imparting a sense of how to look at the questions not from a Pilipino view, but rather from an American point of view. I suspect many fail, even though their knowledge is sufficient.

Thanks for the idea.

I'd like to study nursing in RP, preferably Davao (San Pedro) or Iloilo (West Visayas State) though I'd consider another school. I want a NLE 'school' pass rate of >75%
check this out: http://www.prc.gov.ph/documents/NURS1108ps.pdf

WVSU, Iloilo does NOT accept second coursers. They only accept accept newly graduated high school students who can pass their very strict screening tests & interviews. Another sch, CPU ranked top 3 on the list above has an age limit. I know this because i studied there since my elementary days, when i came back & applied for nursing, i was turned down because i was 26 and married. St. Pauls also has an age limit.

Iloilo Doctors & University of Iloilo does not, and they accept second coursers.

I've a BS in chemistry and another in Safety Studies/Engineering. My Nursing degree is an ADN (Associates of Nursings) which is not accepted in RP
You can be qualified as a second courser since you took a 4 year BS course not because of the 2 year ADN course. We have a similar course here in the phils., AHSE, and with this you can never apply as a BSN clinical instructor or even a volunteer.

I've four years of experience but that experience includes a stint in a medical/surgical ward, and one in Adult ICU (Intensive Care Unit) in a major 400 bed/1000+ doctor tertiary care hospital. (see www.dhmc.org) I sort of fell into a 'fast track' program. I guess that makes me experienced
I'm not sure but since you only have a 2yr Associate course, maybe you can teach at LPN/caregiver schools instead of BSN schools. There are a lot of those schools here, maybe you can be a coordinator as well.

There is another 'secret reason' too, so don't tell anyone but I'd love to find love in the RP, you see I'm single and don't like American women, and do like filipina's sense of family, morality and community. Remember, this is a secret....
I always wonder about this, you see here in the phils people who eventually marry foreigners usually live on far flung rural areas (please don't be offended). these people are always met by high raised eyebrows because we assume they marry for money. most (but not all) are not even "pretty" in phil standards...so it makes me wonder how & why foreingers marry these people.
Specializes in Occ Health; Med/Surg; ICU.

Thank you Dorzlei.

It is quite possible that the typical Filipina's concept of beauty differs from that of an American man's view.

And I wouldn't be offended as to women being from "far flung rural areas" as I too, own a house in a far flung rural town where I half jokingly say that there are more Moose and Bear than there are people. (Moose a wild animal like a deer but weighs about 8x what a deer weighs). I've raised animals, grown crops and have been a beekeeper for honey. I'm more like a rural RP farmer than I am like a person from Manila. I don't really even like cities much.

It seems that in RP the far flung rural areas are often looked down upon and I think that is due to the economic disparity of the cities versus the rural areas. It is not that way in America and rural areas are desirable here. Yet the people that are rural are no less, and in some ways might be more desirable to a "rural" American.

There are culture shocks both ways I think. Though I own a circa 1860 farmhouse in the boonies (very rural area) I also work near Boston, a huge city. But what I find attractive in a woman is not necessarily what another man might.

I think that marrying for "money" is actually very true but perhaps a bit unintentionally crass. Does one "buy love?" Almost all will say: "no, of course not." Yet in fact, we all do, though the money might not be dollars or peso. It is counted in ways such as fidelity, reliability, compassion, intelligence and the ability to nourish and raise a family. Relationships are based upon win/win contacts, and when two people have what each other needs and desires then a relationship might fluorish. Every woman wants a man who has a decent job (money = security), who has no bad habits such as overuse of alcohol, or drug use, and who will value, complement and cherish her and her family.

And different men have different needs and desires too. Lately here in America all women want is wealth and morals and family values often get swept aside. Fidelity is rare, and if another guy's paycheck is bigger, many American women think nothing of moving on. Though now with the economic crash, every one in five houses (MacMansions we call them) have or are being repossessed, so who knows maybe things will change over time.

Come to America for a decade or two, and see what your children are like at the end of that time and then you might start to understand why I believe that there is a lot of value in the moral culture of RP. On the other hand you might bring a bit of your culture here and your children might well turn out to be amongst the best... And perhaps therin lies why foreigners might seek a Filipina as a wife.

I'd suggest Baguio; a lot of Americans like to live there because the climate is closer to the US climate. There are several nursing schools there and you can easily see the scores of the schools from PRC.

Regarding your statistical analysis for infidelity. Whoever did the report never lived here. I've been here two years and I can tell you that there are definitely women who cheat on their husbands and women who will try and seduce a married man.

Now, I will agree that it is far less than in the USA and other countries that I've lived and visited but it is not entirely nonexistant.

Filipinas are wonderful companions, the cultural emphasis on family is strong and in turn a majority of filipinas are fiercely loyal to their husbands and dedicated to taking exceptional care of them.

I'm blessed to have found my best friend and lifelong companion among them, my wife is absolutely the most wonderful woman that I've ever known and I have no question that our marriage will last a lifetime.

I wish you luck in finding a good wife, but I'll give you two pieces of advice:

1) Don't look, let God guide her to you... I found my wife when I was not looking for anything or anyone.

2) Once you have her, always treat her like you are still trying to get her.

Thanks for the suggestion but I have heard that it is almost impossible for an American to get the visa to do any work, unless a company says there are no equivalent potential teachers there. But I would assume that the customs people would assume that any graduate is capable of teaching NCLEX.

Not as an American. It is actually a very straightforward and easy process. You don't apply for an employment visa though, apply for permanent residency. You will have to pay out a total of about $1,000 from the time you arrive until the time you get the permanent residency in visa extensions and all the papers and stuff you have to use to get it.

You will pay more if you use an agent but most often than not you (like me) will end up getting your money stolen and have to process it yourself anyway.

I agree with what Mickeeey said: Most nursing schools in Iloilo City do perform consistently well in the NLE--most especially the West Visayas State University (WVSU), St Paul's University of Iloilo (SPUI), and Central Philippine University (CPU).

And they perform much better compared to nursing schools in Davao.

(As for Kyckerz, who said one can hardly find high-quality nursing education from provincial schools, this, I would say, is a very flawed perception. Metro Manila does not have the monopoly of smart sudents and outstanding professors.)

Anyway...

Of the three aforementioned schools in Iloilo City, only CPU accepts second-degree students or "second coursers." However, they do have an age limit--the student applicant has to be 25 years old and below.

Both WVSU and SPUI only accept fresh high school graduates.

However, there are other schools in Iloilo City that also accept second-degree students or "second coursers." These schools are the University of Iloilo (UI), Iloilo Doctors College (IDC), and University of San Agustin (USA).

IDC and USA both have age limits for their student applicants though--not more than 30 years of age.

Among the six academic institutions with established nursing schools in Iloilo City, only UI does not have any age limit.

All the six schools are located in the city proper and very much accessible to malls, hotels, restaurants, grocery stores, public markets, coffee shops, internet cafes, hospitals, houses of worship, banks, et cetera, which you'll surely need to survive.

And don't worry, Iloilo City isn't that polluted compared to Metro Manila, and the peace and order situation here is very much under control (i.e., no kidnapping cases, no mall bombings, no scary vigilante groups, no roaming "street girls" even at night).

I have written a very lengthy review about the said nursing schools and it's available online. I'm just too lazy now to paste it all here as they are paged separately.

But if you want to have an idea regarding the school fees per semester, the contact numbers, availability of a master's degree program in nursing, and so on, just type the following on Google:

warrior in scrubs + nursing schools

Good luck!

Hello! I'm a graduate of San Pedro College, I'm already a Registered Nurse! thank's for the recognition, however, SPC doesn't accept 2nd coursers. we have also there a lot of americans who are taking BS nursing.. for those who posted that our school has less performance in the board exam, it isn't true, SPC is one of the 8 Center of Excellence in Nursing Education (COENE) in the Philippines and among are UP, UST, SLU, SPU, SU.. in fact when i took the board, our school got 96% passing rate and we produced 803 registered nurses during the november 2009 exam, the largest producer in the philippines..

Davao city is very clean, it is the most livable city in the philippines.. other nursing schools in davao cater 2nd coursers just like Brokenshire College..

hope you are enlightened of what i have posted.. don't just listen to those who did not recognize SPC as the best nursing school.. ok?

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