Foreign nurses watch this...

bryanb_2003ph · Sep 14, 2009

Sorry guys... what he said is "import nurses... makes absolutely no sense"... i was very sleepy when i watch this clip... lol...

Lorodz · Sep 16, 2009

0uch! so thats it fellow pinoys, its going to be very very hard to get in the usa especially obama is not supportive of importing us :cry:

bryanb_2003ph · Sep 17, 2009

I was saddened when i heard this... so whats gonna happened to us? no job here in the philippines and other countries also...

Hushdawg · Sep 22, 2009

There *ARE* Jobs.

USA DOES HAVE JOBS. Since you are a BSN holder instead of an ASN (like most nurse grads in USA) you qualify for the mid-level positions where the shortage is rather than the entry level positions where there are a surplus.

Retrogression does not mean that NO visas are being issued, it means that visas are DELAYED in issue. So go ahead, get your license, apply for your visa and wait through the retrogression delay... in the mean time get a job in any of the dozens of other countries that need nurses to increase your levels of experience. You can do this in Canada, in US-founded hospitals in the Mid-east, in northern Africa; all over the place.

Additionally, to get your initial 6 months of experience you can look into the NARS program. The second batch is closing on Sept. 26th but there will hopefully be a renewal of the program (according to DOLE Undersecretary) for 2010 for another 2 batches of 5000+ nurses per batch. The 6 month assignment will be to Rural clinics and Hospitals where many people have not had access to healthcare for a long time.

If you are discouraged to the USA option then start working on a path to immigration to Canada, New Zealand or Australia. Once You begin the immigration process as a nurse you will enter a training program to acclimate you to the NZ and AUS way of doing things; once you pass this program and are approved to work as a nurse then you can easily find a job.

Canada is no different, for BSN graduate RNs once you immigrate to Canada it is easy to find a job.

Jobs are out there! GO get them!

Additionally, a group of nurses could put together a private care clinic with very little start up money per person. With any luck you can get an MD/RN a DDS/RN an OD/RN and make the most out of all the medical professionals who have second-coursed as RNs. Use all your skills and earn income while providing care to people that may otherwise not have access!

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Sep 23, 2009

In the USA a new grad is a new grad whether you're a BSN or ADN. Our ADN graduates go 4 years for schooling. Most of our BSN graduates take about 5 years to obtain their degree, 2 years general ed & prerequisites, and 3 years of actual clinical and theory in nursing. Just because someone is a BSN graduate doesn't mean that they're considered mid level nurses. If you have ZERO PAID EXPERIENCE (BSN or ADN) as a RN then you're considered an entry level RN.

Obama is focused on finding employment for the citizens of the US, he's not particularly concerned for the foreign educated people wishing to work here. The reason why is because he wants to fix the problems within. Why should he be concerned about employing foreign educated people when our own people here are unemployed?

There are no jobs in the Philippines, and there are no jobs in the US. As Hushdawg stated look elsewhere. Have a plan B in order to gain experience. Don't focus everything on the US when that's not an option right now with this economy. Good Luck

Hushdawg · Sep 23, 2009

Just because someone is a BSN graduate doesn't mean that they're considered mid level nurses. If you have ZERO PAID EXPERIENCE (BSN or ADN) as a RN then you're considered an entry level RN.

Which is why almost all hospitals require 2 years of paid experience before hiring a foreign nurse... even a BSN holder.

I should have mentioned that part; I forget sometimes that not everyone is aware of that.

I have recently come across a group of US hospitals that will hire foreign nurses without experience to entry level positions but they are almost exclusively in the rural areas where they are desperate for nurses. If I can convince the group to disclose the locations to me then I'll post them here on AllNurses as this will benefit US recent grads as well as long as they are willing to relocate.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Sep 23, 2009

The jobs in the US are becoming very hard to find. An an entry level nurse is just that an basic nurse, most hospitals only require an ASN, and for the most part the ASN nurses have a BS/BA in another field so often they have more education than a typical BSN.

Mr Obama is correct, this is the USA, job preference should be given to US Citizens and Legal residents. Message is do not go into nursing if you plan is to work in the USA. There will be a very long wait.

I wonder what will happen when the VISA from 2004 and 2005 become current and the nurse has never worked, how can a hospital or any other agency hire this nurse when they have no nursing experience and their education is out of date. Are the hospitals going to pay for an expensive refresher course and then an extended orientation, all when the US President is looking to cut costs ?

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Sep 23, 2009

If I hear of such locations I too will post. But so far, I haven't heard anything. But I'm speculating it's somewhere around the mid-west where most people don't wish to live, or in areas where they have brutal winters like Michigan or Wisconsin.

Pediatric Critical Care Columnist · Sep 23, 2009

There *ARE* Jobs.
If you are discouraged to the USA option then start working on a path to immigration to Canada, New Zealand or Australia. Once You begin the immigration process as a nurse you will enter a training program to acclimate you to the NZ and AUS way of doing things; once you pass this program and are approved to work as a nurse then you can easily find a job.
Canada is no different, for BSN graduate RNs once you immigrate to Canada it is easy to find a job.
Jobs are out there! GO get them!

I must contradict you hushdawg. Canada is coming close to the saturation point for IENs and htere are still many nurses in the pipeline already waiting for their eligibility to be sorted out. They're laying off nurses in some areas of Ontario and BC, Alberta Health Services is offering voluntary retirement packages to RNs and the first lay off notices have gone out; because of the economic conditions in Alberta right now, many people who migrated here for work are returning home to their native provinces... and taking their nurse spouses with them. The unit where I work has already lost two nurses to Saskatchewan and several others are considering a move there. So all is NOT rosy in Canada.

Nurse!Nurse!Hello? · Sep 23, 2009

I wanted to point out that this video is from March--it is over 6 months old.

The statement President Obama made that importing foreign nurses makes no sense was made before the US economy took a nosedive, leading to high unemployment.

Now that US nurses are also facing increasing unemployment, what he said is even more true now than it was when he made the original statement.

Nursing students and new grads shouldn't plan on coming to the US anytime soon. The days of importing thousands of foreign nurses are over. Maybe you should look to Middle Eastern countries, since some of them are still welcoming foreign nurses.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Sep 24, 2009

I have to echo that in the USA jobs are very hard to come and I don't know what mid level jobs Hushdawg is talking about, there are mid level positions which require a MSN and certifications.