Quote from mike28770
suzanne will you please just humor me and read the instructions and the form for para 13 of the ces application taken from the 2006 handbook for ces --
[font=myriadpro-semiboldcond]item 13. registration/license
[font=minionpro-regular]a. please list your legal professional title(s) and country(ies) where your title(s) are registered/licensed.
[font=minionpro-regular]b. list the state(s)/province(s)/country(ies) where you hold a current registration/license as a healthcare professional.
[font=minionpro-regular]c. indicate whether your registration/license has ever been revoked, suspended or restricted. be sure to answer this question for all
[font=minionpro-regular]registration/licenses that you hold now and have held in the past.
[font=minionpro-regular]d.check the appropriate box if you are not currently registered/licensed and explain.
[font=minionpro-regular]failure to answer the questions in item 13 will result in a delay.
[font=myriadpro-semiboldit]please provide the following information.
[font=myriadpro-semibold]a. [font=myriadpro-regular]list your legal professional title(s) and country(ies) where your title(s) are registered/licensed.
[font=myriadpro-semibold]b. [font=myriadpro-regular]list the state(s)/province(s)/country(ies) where you hold a [font=myriadpro-semibold]current [font=myriadpro-regular]registration/license as a healthcare professional.
[font=myriadpro-semibold]c. [font=myriadpro-regular]have any of your registrations/licenses ever been revoked, suspended or restricted for any reason?
[font=universal-newswithcommpi]h [font=myriadpro-regular]yes [font=universal-newswithcommpi]h [font=myriadpro-regular]no if "yes", please attach an explanation to your application.
[font=myriadpro-semibold]d. [font=myriadpro-regular]if you are not currently registered/licensed, please indicate and explain.
[font=universal-newswithcommpi]h [font=myriadpro-regular]not currently registered/licensed [font=universal-newswithcommpi]h [font=myriadpro-regular]never registered/licensed
[font=myriadpro-regular]explanation: __________________________________________________ ___________________________________________
[font=myriadpro-cond]forward a copy of "[font=myriadpro-semiboldcondit]request for validation of registration/license form[font=myriadpro-cond]" to the authority where you were initially registered/licensed and to all authority(ies) where you are currently registered/licensed outside of the u.s.
regarding the application for ces only, it remains my contention that the 06/06 nle takers/passers can in all good faith say in section 13d that they took the philippine nle but the licenses have not been issued by the regulatory commission and the outcome is pending review in the philippine appeals court.
thanks for taking a look at the handbook....
i have seen the handbook and also am very familiar with what is states, and again, there is no way that anything can be verified. and as i have been saying all along, if the sole purpose is to work in the us, then do not even bother with that exam, it is not required, unless you plan to work in a state that still requires the cgfns exam, such as michigan. otherwise spend the money towards prep for the nclex exam.
the issue becomes that the exam was written..........if never written, tnen no issue. there is already much talk going on in the us right now all over the country about what happened over the past few months.
cgfns is unable to change a ruling that they have in place...........if an exam was written, there needs to be verifiable results of passing, same way that you do not see someone that has not passed get the ces.
just makes common sense, and we do use that over here. i am also in contact with hr directors all over the country, and they are not willing to even take a chance of employing a nurse that took that exam........too many legal issues around it. going to a large state hr meeting next week, where i am sure that it will be a very big topic.
cgfns also is the one that issues the vsc, and they cannot do that either without at least passing that can be verified.
and sorry, but as much as everyone wants to argue with me this week on the topic. put on your thinking cap for a minute.............
if a new grad applied to a state for licensure, even in june before the exam, they still would need to get thru the ces, and then it takes at least another month or so in most cases for the state to permit the att to be issued.
many waited until after they took the exam, and were waiting for their results to be posted, and they were; to the world, as well as us immigration, all of the boards of nursing around the world, etc. then the flare-up over the exam and the results................taking you now to middle of july or so, you do the math.............if it takes a good two months before the att is even issued, when the ces is not required, and that would only be to around now; with the ces required, no one has issued them yet. not enough time, cgfns does not work that fast, and especially with the push to get things done the past few months with the impending retrogression.
and for any one to say that they know of someone is not what i call proof of anything.............and especially with the way that rumors start over there, if i got a dollar for each one that started there in the past year i could have retired and never worked another day in my life.
way too many he said/she said.....................and without proof......i stand by what i have been saying all along................there are members here from all over the philippines, and actually the third largest membership here, and not one has actually come here and said to me that they got their att recently, and it is in their hands. only people that know of someone, and that means nothing at all without proof that can be verified.
all of you are welcome to do as you want, some of you will listen to me, and others won't. when you have issues that come up later on that get you into trouble............those that do not want to listen will have to deal with it.
your choice on what to do, i never make anyone do something that they do not want to do, they just need to live by it later on and be able to do so.