Confused and scared...I need advice...

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Hi, I am currently an on call RN for a large nation wide for profit company. I have experienced burnout and have taken one LOA earlier this year. At that time I was a case manager for the same hospice company.

After returning to work from 3 weeks off to de-stress, the on call position opened up and I applied for it. I was interviewed internally and offered the job...very happy with the new hours....(i work 5 12hr shifts on call at night from 8p-830a Sunday night through Thursday night...62.5 hrs a week for a 40hr salary...which is ok)Then about 90 days into the new position I was called into the office by my don and administrator who pulled out a list of calls that weren't handled to thier expectations.

Respectfully, I obliged with their new expectations including me going out on EVERY call, yes, every call. Their rantionale was that we need to be present and improve the after hours service based on surveys etc....Did I mention nursing judgement doesn't come into play here at all...in fact a huge part of the reason for my increasing amount of stress as a case manager was due to the fact that every single visit note and IDT recert was constantly being scoured for imperfection. Everyday it was something new and I cracked...I told my supervisor "I seriously don't know what you want from me anymore?" That being said I still have no say in how I determine to operate as the nightshift on call nurse.

I am expected to attend deaths in SNF's wether family is present to not. After they have already been pronounced, and regardless of the distance from my home. I have been asked not to rely on the "support staff" that a re also on call with me. I was told "they are already stretched too thin, only call them if you are tied up". I must visit SNF'S every time they call, even if they have already handled the situation...The full time case managers pick up on call on weekends and they rotate....but they are not held to these stringent rules....why? Because its overtime for them, but I am salary.

Ok...so then last week, my supervisor sits me down and says "we have come up with a plan to eliminate the case managers from being on call"....great! (they need to be able to focus on thier duties instead of covering a 150 pt census on weekends, I was there...) My "new" schedule was handed to me....what they did was take 125 hrs of on call responsibility...divide by two FT RN's and they have created a rotating schedule where...picture this...I would start work thurs 5p-830a...fri same shift, off sat and sun, back to work Monday 5p-830a, tues, and wed too...off thurs and fri, then on call sat starting at 830 am all the way through to Monday at 830 am....then returning to the rotation on Thursday. Let me remind you all I am off every weekend and holiday. I currently work 12hr shifts. This means I need to work every other weekend now...unfortunately PA is an at will state so what they are doing is completely legal.

So....once again I start feeling increased stress of the uncertainty of where I will end up...I can't work those hours for so many reasons. (involved in a contract also...they paid for my BSN....stuck as well as screwed) I had a panick attack in the middle of my shift and seriously considered driving to er instead of the pt...called off the next night because I was still having a major panic attack....never this bad though...I was crying terribly for the better part of 12 hrs. (hx of anxiety and panic disorder)

So...I sought counseling and he pointed out some very scary things that I really never thought of. I have been doing as they say...whenever I questioned it have been shunned and treated terribly and rudely in front of co-workers...He says it smells like fraud...billing for medically unnecessary nursing visits to SNF's...now I'm so confused, in hindsight soooooo many things make sense now! And let me tell you I'm terrified. I want to do the right thing, but I'm not 100% sure that we are out of compliance.

I did ask my supervisor..."why is it that I have to attend all these calls and deaths in the SNF's but the case managers on weekends don't?" she replied "you don't need to worry about what is expected of everyone else, you worry about your job expectations! And next time you have a question like this you come to me!" so I reply " I am asking you now"...she says scoffingly "yea after you went and talked to everyone else!" I was speechless at that point because our reports are recorded and retrieved by general voicemail...I hear how they handle thier calls.

I'm not trying to get out of working or sit at home and triage for a FT RN salary...but what it going on here? And now that in hindsight soo many things from my past in case management make sense...all the recert and IDT notes that I was asked to change...."get creative" with...? I guess I could go on and on...thank you for reading and any advice/opinions welcome and extremely needed at this time. God Bless

Sounds like the hospice I worked at for just about a month before I was outta there. Yours sounds the same. Lots of HH and hospice are fraud. It gets dirty. I am an older second degree nurse - I saw it right off so I gave notice and left.

Thing is I would support heavy crack down on HH/hospice by medicare. Many are just fraud these days with more new start-ups each year.

I left fearing for my license and my ability to work being taken from me.

Get out what ever you do.

look into what's called I believe forgiveness loans for health professionals. I was recently told about this by a friend. She went for her BSN and from what I understand as long as you work for 4 or 5 years as an RN your covered. like I said I am not sure of all the details yet. Good luck and God bless.

Thank you all so much for your support! In response to bubbles...and all...I have been an RN over 5 yrs...experience in acute rehab, management, LTC, and hospice...I have decided to take some time for myself and really THINK about how to proceed...I am seeking legal advice and doing research on the Internet...whistle blowing is scary to say the least. Seeing your replies is such a HUGE comfort and I thank you all again...I was talking about my take home pay after taxes etc it's about $3000/mo which is great But if I lose that I'm hangin by a thread...I can sew though! Lol (trying to stay positive)...so I took FMLA?..

Specializes in Oncology (research).

I think you are on the right track by doing your research. I am an oncology nurse and part of my previous job included some case management functions (navigator role) and sometimes when I was trying to get patients hooked up with home care I had to do what may be considered "creative writing." I did not lie, but medicare has very specific wording they need to cover certain health care needs. I would often have to ask the physician to add an addendum to his note to include why the patient needed enteral feedings etc. Many of the home health and hospice facilities would tell me how things needed to worded. I never lied about anything, and when we could not state things the way they wanted the patient could not get the care, so I think it's very important to complete your research before whistleblowing.

Of course if you find it is fraud, then you should report them; however I know it's easier said than done. I have worked with so many people that have been unhappy about their jobs and were always saying "I can't quit because I have kids, mortgage, and bills." That is true of all of us, but what I can tell you is that I too worked at a horrible place (not as a nurse), and the manager was awful and swore and yelled all the time. I was just a temp so I may have been treated a bit better, but I saw how the other staff was treated and they all complained. That day I swore to myself that I would never stay at a job that made me unhappy. I have lived up to that promise, and I have had many jobs, but I have gained great experience and I feel confident to stand my ground when things don't seem right in my nursing career. I am also lucky because I work in oncology and have had great experinces. I won't say I aways worked exactly where I wanted to, and I did do travel nursing for a few years, but I am confident in my nursing skills and strongly advocate for myself and my patients.

It goes back to the old saying, "you need to take care of yourself before you can take care of others." I encourage you to get in a good place first. Make that your focus and put all your energy into you and then you may see things differently and have the strength you need to do whatever it is you need to do. It's clear that your job is a huge stress for you right now so I would suggest doing whatever it takes to get out of there. I too have student loans, I'm a single mom, and have many bills, but I gladly pay those bills each month because I am happy and no amount of money is worth losing your happiness.

I know it's difficult to make and accept change but I hope you find your happiness. Good luck to you.

What an awesome post hav2nurse!

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

I don't have the answers, but wanted to wish you well.

Be EXTREMELY careful whistleblowing. A medical office employee in this state reported medicare fraud (in the millions) which was found to be true, and while there were no OVERT repercussions, she was unable to find a job for over 5 years. (In other words, all medical professionals talk to each other, and she was "blackballed".) What she did was the right thing, but it came back to "bite her in the hiney." Not saying don't do it, but be aware......

I worked night call for a couple years...now do GIP for the same agency.

With a usual home Pt census of about 300, we had 2 nurses for the midnight to 0830 shift. Sometimes one of those nurses would be from the home teams.

We did TOD visits no matter where the Pt lived, unless the family or facility said "no."

We offered a visit with any call during the midnight-0830 shift. The family/facility could say "no." If not, we went.

Fortunately, we didn't have to do admissions, as they're just too time consuming.

Some nights would be really slow, and others you could drive a couple hundred miles and make three or four visits....then find yourself 40 miles from home when you got relieved by the day team an hour after your shift supposedly ended. That left you with the dilema of getting enough caffeine to get home without wrecking, but not so much as to preclude sleep before the next shift that night.:unsure:

Specializes in Public Health Nurse.
Thanks for the prayers! Greatly appreciated! I am considering my options...it's just that the amount of the scholarship is close to $20,000. I saw a lawyer about that before I suspected fraud and he said that it would go to collections...I'm very overwhelmed at the thought of the financial consequences otherwise I would have left a long time ago...it's a 4yr contract that I am 2 1/2 yrs into and it specifically states they don't pro-rate...lawyer says good news is they most likely won't sue. But also doesn't see any other option but to allow it to go to. Collections and settle from there...ugh....this is too many dynamics for me to keep track of. I really need sme guidance...does anyone know where I can turn? Besides a lawyer at this point they aren't even returning my calls...

I am sorry you are going through this. It appears as if they are taking advantage of your naivete, that you are now beginning to recognize and smell something is not right.

Reading your post validates to me more that I should definitely consider taking the acceptance for my BSN at my community college, pay it for it myself so as I to not be stuck in a situation such as yours.

I wish you all the best, and if getting out gives you peace of mind, then perhaps you should at least consider it some more, it is priceless.

Can you qualify for forgiveness loans?

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