Do you think I could get kicked out? - page 6

So I went to clinical prep yesterday and my husband accompanied me up to the unit. As I did my prep he sat by me playing on his iPhone. Anyway someone(s) told my instructor that he was there and that... Read More

  1. by   Sparrowhawk
    So like.what happened? OP gonna come back and tell us? I'm curious to know. And's HIPAA...
  2. by   CrunchRN
    Unfortunate mistake. They will probably kick you out. Big misjudgement , but we have all been there at one time or another.
  3. by   psu_213
    At this point I don't know if it serves much purpose to keep coming up with alternatives for what to do with the OP's husband. It happened and if they OP is fortunate enough to keep her place in school, she definitely will not make the same mistake again.

    As for the issue of being kicked said your husband was by you. You state that you did not show any information to your husband. The problem is, 'the board' could say that if he even glanced over at you he could have seen PHI, and that could be a major violation of HIPAA and other privacy statues (leaving the school and the hospital open to huge penalties). The fact that he was seen there with an iPhone (or whichever device you said it was) makes it look even worse. Unfortunately, not a good situation for you...
  4. by   psu_213
    Quote from morte
    When i was in school, we went the night before, there were NO instructors present.
    I my case there was...always (and if the instructor was late for some reason, we could not access chart/computers/etc. until they arrived). They also took attendance at these sessions, and if you weren't there, it would count against your clinical time total...and if you were short of the predetermined goal time, that was the end of your time at this particular school. This is how it was at my school...either way though, I don't think it matters to the situation.
    Last edit by psu_213 on Apr 12, '12 : Reason: I used 'their' instead of 'there'....Yikes!
  5. by   psu_213
    Quote from Meriwhen
    I'm sure you were acting in all innocence and weren't showing your spouse anything he shouldn't have seen. However, it's understandable that OTHERS looking him next to you fiddling with an iPhone while you pore over confidential information could get the wrong impression.
    That is an excellent point. If I am a pt taking a walk in the hall and I see a student with my open chart and someone next to her with a smartphone...I think a reasonable person might think something very inappropriate is going on.
  6. by   OCNRN63
    OP, you really, really need to delete your email address in this! Between your screen name (which I am guessing is the initial of your first name, your last name and the year you were born in) and your email, there is just way too much personal information out there for people to see.
  7. by   jmiraRN
    First, I'm sorry that you are in this situation. I remember not knowing if I was going to be kicked out of school for being late on my make-up clinical day. I ended up being kicked out, but allowed to come back the following semester. It was entirely my fault. There were my mistakes that I made. By golly I have learned. Those 3 days of not knowing were some of the worst I have experienced. I feel for you

    The thing in your situation is that you must learn to take full responsibility! You need to approach any time you are on clinical grounds as if you are a working nurse. Come prepared and come wise. Nurses carry loads of responsibility. The last thing your directors are going to want to hear are excuses of not knowing better. YOU NEED TO KNOW BETTER. Patient privacy is about as big as it gets

    Own up to your mistakes. Apologize. Assure and then re-assure them that it will never happen again. Do some HIPAA research and show them all of the things that you HAVE learned and discovered since the incident. Make them confident that they can trust you as not only a student but also a nurse.

    Best of luck and keep your head up
  8. by   floridanurse1983
    Quote from crunchrn
    unfortunate mistake. they will probably kick you out. big misjudgement , but we have all been there at one time or another.

    ummmmm. no i haven't. i've made some stupid mistakes. many. but not this. you can include yourself, but don't say we've all been there. i haven't and never will because i have common sense and professionalism.
  9. by   CrunchRN
    Quote from floridanurse1983
    Ummmmm. No I haven't. I've made some stupid mistakes. Many. But not this. You can include yourself, but don't say we've all been there. I haven't and never will because I have common sense and professionalism.
    I was trying to be kind. Not everyone is a superior specimen like y'all!
  10. by   CrazierThanYou
    Quote from mazy
    All questions of patient confidentiality aside, why on earth would you take your husband with you to clinical prep? I can't even fathom the thought process there.
    I'm inclined to agree. I just can't wrap my mind around it, either.

    It seems like an honest mistake, though, and I hope it works out for you.
  11. by   CrazierThanYou
    Quote from mangopeach
    I believe this is common practice for many programs, including mine. First and Second Semester we had to go pick up our patient and do research on their conditions, do the patho, write up drug cards, etc.

    As long as you were not interacting with the patient, we did not need a CI to be there.
    We also went to the clinical site and reviewed charts with no supervision whatsoever.
  12. by   dudette10
    Quote from merlee
    But I am curious - - if there was someone who truly thought there was an issue, why was it not addressed on the site at that time??? Who allows a possible breach of privacy to continue indefinitely? Who is the nasty person behind this?
    That's the first thing that popped into my mind. It was sooooo awful that no one took care of it right then and there?

    I do, however, agree with others on the fact it was questionable judgement and how to handle the professional board.
  13. by   CrazierThanYou
    Quote from steffuturelpn
    not to chastise you but im in agreement with everyone else, but the sad part is that it makes me question your judgement as a nurse and at this point i would not want you to care for me, my mother or my daughter, it seems ur making excuses a 20 minute drive i drve a hour a day each way for clinical and for class and the one day i brought my daughter too class for a hour i had gotten the pre approval from my instructor because my daughtter was off, unexpectdly due to catholic school and one of there holidays, but as i say i had pre approval, before i did this and i still felt a bit uncomfortable with this, but i managed being a a-b student like yourself, you need to re-evaluate yourself and just admit your wrong doing and tell them that you will never do it again, but im pretty sure your gonna be dismissed because hippa is no joke, sorry about your situation
    Really? Wow.