Nursing & Depression - page 41

While visiting in the lounge one day, we discovered that every nurse there was on an anti-depressant. I have had 'Treatment Resistant Depression' for about 20 years--as long as I've been a nurse. ... Read More

  1. by   mamabear
    Micro:
    Honey, what are you on?
    Did I miss something in the translation, or is it a generational thing?
    To quote Page & Plant: "I've been dazed and confused for so long, it's not true".
  2. by   micro
    Originally posted by mamabear
    Micro:
    Honey, what are you on?
    Did I miss something in the translation, or is it a generational thing?
    To quote Page & Plant: "I've been dazed and confused for so long, it's not true".

    mamabear.........
    generational thing.......
    well, I am 41, going on 8, going on 90.........
    translation.........missed.........I am the one that probably missed something from synaptic activity to typing......

    but what am I on.........living, chocolate chip cookies, coffee and 40 mg prozac daily.......no, this is just me today.....

    waxing poetic as I type, think and say.....
    to all my friends.....here.....
    mamabear.........
    you are also so very dear.........

    that life is beginning to look a bit brighter and more hopeful as I 'trudge' along the way.........
    but I do like having 'fun with words'..........so, I find fun and peace with what I do and say.....

    the tears are less today
    yesterday is past and gone.....
    and to steal a line,
    the future has not come.....
    so today is all I have,
    and about all I can handle anyway,
    so for that I am glad.............






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    Last edit by micro on Jan 3, '03
  3. by   abrenrn
    Hi, all -

    It's been a while, I've enjoyed the notes so far. My question for micro - do you always speak in metaphors? I myself love a good metaphor, use them often but worry if I go too far - am I getting manic, schizo????

    Long time ago, I read a book called "Abnormal psychology in literature", used Ophelia in Hamlet as a perfect example of schizophrenia, hebephrenic type (whatever hebephrenic means). I recently read Hamlet - it's a long story, I'm generally a mystery reader - and it had good notes. When Ophelia "went crazy" she was using metaphors to describe the insane situation around her. She couldn't live with the lies and threw herself off the cliff. Was she really crazy?

    Well, yes. She killed herself. There are other choices, other ways of looking at things. I think it's the extremes we need to watch out for. Poetry and metaphors are cool. Have they reached an extreme? Only the teller really knows. But, if smart, will listen to feedback from those who care.

    Just more deep thoughts from Anne. Knew you all missed them.
  4. by   micro
    No, I do not always speak in metaphors.....
    Schizophrenia..............
    "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden"
    is a very good read......
    have had closer connection with schizophrenia than a good read, also.....
    I know you say words out of caring.....and for this I say thank you
    but I am doing fine............well, actually okay.....
    f.i.n.e. stands for something else to me these days.....

    and just enjoying being me.....
    will keep some of my 'strange way of think/type' for my first novelette/poetic prose......
    it may be complete in about 4-40 years.........

    different is just different.........
    same is the same............
    I am a bit of both.........

    by all now,
    glad you came,

    micro and out
  5. by   sphinx
    micro,
    I think you've been quite poetic. A couple posts back you were even rhyming, and like the child I am, I got a kick out of it!!
  6. by   abrenrn
    Micro -

    glad you saw just caring. Only you know. But, as I recently discovered for myself, poetry can be dangerous! I tried to write a poem and then stuff I imagined happened! Glad it did though. It just needed a new verse.
  7. by   mamabear
    Okaaay
    I guess it must be me. I'm being treated for depression also: Remeron and Seroquel at night (30mg and 200mg, respectively), Effexor XR 150 mg in the morning.
    I work straight midnights, which sort of confounds the problem, but I've been on this med regimen for >3 years, so I'm doing something right. It helps that I have the best shrink in Northwest Indiana.:kiss
  8. by   micro
    mamabear.......
    no it ain't you, my dearheart.........
    omg, straight midnights...........my hat off and hugs to you.....
    no, sometimes i do type straight from my brain whatever words wafting through the darkness refrains.........
    but then again, I straighten up and act as if again.......


    abrern
    oh, yes caring is never wrong......
    and I thank you for the caring heart that you show me and others here......and more important in 'real life'...........
    what the world needs now is more caring and understanding.........

    poetry and words and thoughts are what you make of them.......
    there is indeed extremes in everything..........
    that all or nothing........

    sphinx
    my dear friend
    one day in this lifetime.....
    a pot of coffee we will share.......
    thanks for taking care of yourself first......
    so for me and others you are always there.........

    and hey, to the original author of this AWESOME AND GROWING THREAD.........
    carpe de em...................
    (-:P hats off to you,

    (-:

    the end




    (for now)

    micro
  9. by   sphinx
    hey micro, can't wait for that coffee!

    So tomorrow I start my new "in office" position. Hmmmm, a little nervous. I still have a couple things to wrap up, because it was a short week last week (holiday, had friday off). I was on this weekend, wasn't too bad. 2 openings yesterday, and today an opening and a dressing change. I'm procrastinating over my paperwork here though.......I turned in my laptop Thursday, as it was not functioning properly, and it didn't make sense to have them fix it, so I just used paper this weekend. If not for horrid stomach cramps, the weekend wouldn't have been half bad, haha.
    I've been very upset recently about my oldest son (the one who'll be 14 on Friday). Things are getting worse and worse for him at school. he's had problems for years, failed 6th grade, is now in 7th, and is failing his classes at this point, despite every effort from us and his teachers (he even has an IEP and special ed support) It's been a terrible struggle, and it's becoming more and more clear that he may be showing signs of depression. High irritablility, decreased appetitite, change in behavior (more oppositional), withdrawing, loss of interest in "most" things. The only things he cares about are his stupid playstation and chatting on the computer. During the week, those are limited to an hour a day (either/or, not an hour each), but on weekends, as long as he is not grounded (and he has been....due to grades, lying, etc he HAS been, a LOT lately) and has worked on his homework, he has pretty much free reign, only having to share with his brother and step brother when they are here. He was talking (sort of) to my husband when I got home, but went upstairs when I got home. He's got a lot of issues, his life hasn't been easy by far. We're gonna talk to his Dr and probably take him to a therapist....but I've been so upset, and feeling soooooo guilty. I made a lot of bad life decisions since he was born, plus my crummy genes.......equals lotsa mommy guilt. Oh well, just wanted to talk.
    Thanks, as always!
  10. by   abrenrn
    I am constantly amazed by the strength of the people I meet here. Sphinx, you are a survivor, you will handle everything in front of you - just hope you can find easier ways to do it.

    I have a nephew with Asperger's syndrome. He's quite smart. One day I was talking to him about computer games. He told me he knows he shouldn't do it all the time but he can't help himself, it's something he keeps doing. I think he is very brave, telling me that about himself. He's eight years old.

    Most people aren't as clear with their needs. I suspect your son needs help getting away from his obsession - but he will fight you tooth and nail. If you love him, you fight harder.

    I think. I'm new to all this.

    Micro, I love your poetry. I was just checking. Recently, I feared insanity - I dreamed I had gone crazy and found myself talking in metaphors. I went to bed saying, "I'll never wake up to reality again."

    I do drama too, it seems. In the back of my mind, I knew I might just wake up again. So far, I always do. Now, looking back, the drama was fun.

    For, as you can all see, I woke up sane. I think.
  11. by   nursechris1
    Originally posted by VAC
    I can't back this up with research, but I really believe that nursing has a larger percentage of people from dysfunctional backgrounds, which make us more susceptible to depression. The caretakers who don't take care of themselves syndrome.. It's a breeding ground for depression.
    I very much agree with this. Many of the nurse I know tend to be more codependent, take care of everyone but themselves. Many of the nurses I work with are on Antidep. I don't think being in nursing causes depression as much as having a dsyf background, or having tendency toward depression causes people to go into a career where they feel needed. Zoloft and Elavil have been a lifesaver to me!!
  12. by   nursechris1
    Another factor that makes depression worse, is having a spouse who does not understand it, and who makes snide comments about me taking meds, telling me I am "gorked out". I went off my antidepressants for a time, and my dad, who has clinical depression with a hx of suicide attempt, asked me why I would stop taking them. I told him they made me gain weight, which was making me more depressed.
    I finally became so depressed I couldn't get through my workday without crying. I finally went back on the medicine. I have decided that it is inevitable. My dad hx of depression, my grandfather bipolar, my brother is bipolar, another set of grandparents alcholic. I don't drink, smoke, but I am addicted to sweets LOL. I have gained 30 pounds, but I sleep a little better, and I don't cry as much.
    I do wonder what will happen if the 150 mg of zoloft doesn't work, as I think that is the max dose?!
  13. by   sphinx
    hello nursechris......actually, you can take 200mg zoloft, I used to take that much. If that doesn't work, I don't know how many others you've tried, but there's a lot of options. One that doesn't always cause weight gain is Wellbutrin. That's the "main" part of my particular "cocktail", have been on it for some time, we tend to change the extras when I have problems. I had gained a ton of weight on other meds, but slowly it's come off. Most recently I lost 10 lbs after having a lap chole, then a nasty case of thrush, but I wouldn't recommend *that*, haha! My former spouse didn't understand depression either. Esp since he had multiple illnesses including a congenital heart defect, vonwillibrand's disease, and hep c...and was on no regular meds....he thought I was a freak and a weirdo for taking meds for depression. He doesn't believe depression is "real". My husband's ex was the same way, he suffers from depression as well. It's a comfort having someone who understands. (a problem when we are both having difficulties coping, but in general he is more stable than I am). Anyway, welcome, as you can see, we are kind of chatty, haha......we keep reviving this thread, I know for me, I find it very supportive, I feel in good company here. I am in depression support groups, etc....but knowing other nuses in the same boat....has helped me a lot.

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