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Jul 01, 2009 05:43 PM

What do you think about universal workers in LTC?

by Moogie Premium Member

Just curious. Have talked with some people in LTC who are enthusiastic about the idea of universal workers---meaning employees who could work dietary, nursing, housekeeping---whatever the needs are for the day. Others are skeptical. What are your opinions about and your experiences with universal workers?

Thanks for the input.


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from roser13
Old Jul 01, 2009, 07:11 PM

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Never heard of the concept.

In terms of nursing being interchangeable with dietary and housekeeping....that will never happen.
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from gr8fulnrs
Old Jul 01, 2009, 08:20 PM

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could be possible for nurses aide to transition back and forth between dietary and housekeeping. be a little concerned about cross contamination and spread of infection though. wouldn't see it feasible to wear three hats all in one day on same shift...although...wait a minute...I do remember working as an aide and doing all three jobs, wasnt called a universal worker though, was called short staffed! i think it really depends on the level of skill the hall is that your working on. couldnt see it feasible for a nurse but possibly for an aide.
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Old Jul 01, 2009, 08:22 PM

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We have thought of cross training CNAs for the dietary department...we have people not getting enough hours as CNAs so it seems logical to have them work in dietary.
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Old Jul 01, 2009, 09:02 PM

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Having seen it in action in assisted living, I'm not a fan. The concept itself isn't a bad one at all---one aide sees to all the needs of her "pod", or residential unit, including meds, laundry, homemaking, and ADLs---but in practice it's used to maximize profits at the expense of staffing. It's also an infection control disaster; I still cringe at the memory of seeing caregivers running back and forth between dining-room duty and personal care tasks, but it couldn't be helped, there simply weren't enough bodies on the floor to meet everyone's needs and still get the meals out on time.

As hard as it was in AL, I really can't imagine it working well in LTC where the residents' acuity is so much higher and the staffing is only slightly better than it is in ALFs. I know our CNAs hardly have time to do everything that's expected of them even now; it's hard enough to get them to do room tidies (I'm super-anal about "stuff" on the floor) and meet the minimal safety requirements, I'm sure they'd go out of their minds if I tried to get them to sweep and mop floors or do their residents' laundry!
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from Candyheart
Old Jul 01, 2009, 09:31 PM

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It sounds to me like another attempt to cut staffing costs by making everyone do everything. If an aide want to work in dietary, they need to be hired in dietary and put their time in the kitchen, not take time away from their resident care. This is a ridiculous idea to have aides do even more. Anything to maximize profits for the administration.
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Old Jul 01, 2009, 09:33 PM

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wow...we're not trying to cut staffing. We're trying to make sure the people we have get the hours they need. We're not all evil you know.
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from fuzzywuzzy
Old Jul 01, 2009, 10:34 PM

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I would hate that. If I wanted to work in the kitchen, laundry, or housekeeping, I would have applied for those positions in the first place.
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Old Jul 01, 2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CapeCodMermaid View Post
wow...we're not trying to cut staffing. We're trying to make sure the people we have get the hours they need. We're not all evil you know.

CapeCod, I have read your thoughts for a long time now and really believe that YOU would have good intentions at heart here, but I would not trust the corporate powers. Surely someone, somewhere would come up with this fantastic idea only to ultimately save the company some $$ (and the powers that be get a little extra bonus $$ for meeting budget so nicely). These poor aides are already overworked. The last thing they need is to be running in and out of this kitchen and mopping a floor!

You see it as instead of CNA job they would do Hskp or dietary job. I think others mean it as they will do all 3 jobs within the same shift!
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from missyd1991
Old Jul 02, 2009, 03:41 AM

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I agree I think maybe in an assisted living area butin LTC i think everyone is hired to do a specific job. Ok to cross train to get hours but do one job per shift. Plus the residents would get confused on who was doing what job and who should they ask for help.
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