The Elderly Are Devalued - page 3

During the many years that I have spent browsing these forums, I have noticed a common theme regarding the preconceived notions that many people in healthcare have expressed about long term care (LTC) and the elderly population... Read More

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    I'm not at all suprised. Given the devalued attitude of this country in general has toward the 50 and over group, why would the true frail elderly in LTC be treated any differently. "Don't employ them, they don't deserve the medicare they paid into for years and years. They'll get respect when I get respect from them first!" It's a reflection of the moral standard now a days.

    There will be no increase in the respect for the elderly even with the baby boomers aging.
    IowaKaren, amoLucia, VivaLasViejas, and 2 others like this.

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    Quote from TheCommuter
    Some also think that LTC nurses deal with less stress and lack the assessment and procedural skills that all 'hospital nurses' have.


    No way in Hades do I think this.
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    I enjoyed the article and agree with you 100%. To add to the conversation, our cultural views (Western, particularly American) on aging clearly have a strong influence on our views on aging and how we treat the elderly population in our society. It never occurred to me that caregivers of elderly may be stigmatized as well. Some Asian countries, like China & Japan, revere their elderly...we could learn from them. Maybe Baby Boomers can bring an end to Ageism as they grow older; after all, they do account for >25% of the US population; the rest of us will have to listen!
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    Having worked on two med-surg floors, it seems that the demographics are similar to those of long-term care facilities. I really enjoy working with elderly people, but I don't think I'd ever want to work LTC because I wouldn't have the resources to take care of them adequately. On a med-surg floor, I'm guaranteed (at the very least) a somewhat manageable patient load. I did a few clinical rotations in school at a nursing/rehab center that had won several accolades, and even there staffing was terrible. I've heard stories from other nurses about 25:1 nurse-to-patient ratios with one aide. There are no bones about it...there is not a single person on the planet who could take those odds and succeed at providing safe, adequate, compassionate care. I wish that nursing homes were better for nurses and residents. Perhaps my my opinion is wrong; please correct me if it is.
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    This is my first post here.

    I am new to the profession and this is a career change for me in my early 40ís. I decided to start with care giving and I went to CNA school and I am now waiting to test in Nevada. I am currently a pre-nursing student and working in LTC. I am so happy I did this. So far, it has been a wonderful experience. I am learning basic hands on skills but most importantly how to communicate and interact on so many levels from working daily with residents, co-workers, and family members.

    I look forward to going to work every day and making a difference in our residentís quality of life, if only for that moment that I am with them. I have found it important to put blinders on with regards to negative attitudes and "drama" situations that are beyond my control and there many of them. Being new at my job, I have already learned to stand my ground, ask questions if I don't know, document everything, and follow protocol, and oh my gosh never gossip or reveal anything personal (no need to fuel the simple minded)!

    For me, if I can get someone out of bed, dressed and excited to shower, eat in the dining room, take a walk or play bingo it is a day well spent. To me, this is fundamental hands-on care that provides dignity and self esteem to the elderly. Regardless of who is doing it or the reasons why, it is a growing necessity in society and can offer many rewards.

    I think the things that I am learning now will always benefit me as I progress in my path to becoming a well rounded an RN.
    june42, LTCangel, amoLucia, and 3 others like this.
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    I'm a double whammy in terms of perception. I want to "only be" an LPN & I want to work LTC. When I get asked why or can I handle that, I ask them to think about if it were their family member in there (as mine was) & who they want caring for their family member. Someone who truly respects the elderly or someone who they think shouldn't "waste their time getting a LPN license, and being stuck in LTC" or me?
    Last edit by ElSea on Aug 14, '12 : Reason: Spelling
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    I totally agree and you can add those suffering from mental illness to the list of Most Thrown Away And Devalued Members of Society.
    june42, aknottedyarn, GeneralJinjur, and 3 others like this.
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    I will begin my nursing program in January 2013 and the reason I want to be a nurse in LTC! Things change, so I am trying to keep an open mind but your hit a lot of great points in your article.

    Thanks for sharing,
    from a wanna bee!
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    While I agree with the article, I think a lot of new grads steer away from LTC because they are taught to. NS really pushes the get your year or two on a med-surg unit thing.
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    Well it is a society that values productivity or the hope of future productivity. Once you aren't able to contribute in the form of money , then forget it, just like the unemployed, mentally ill, etc. I never want to work LTC and it has nothing to do with it not being the glorious ER/ICU /LD. More because I know what the reality there is! Short staffing, overworked staff, etc. I don't know how those nurses do it. When we get a nursing home pt, yelling and screaming and sundowning, I think " how can they handle 20-40 of these patients?". I think that is why most do not want to work there. All the cultures that " highly " value their elderly, are cultures were the elderly do not last that long, and there aren't as many of them, right? Maybe aside from Japan and South Korea...( not sure haven't looked up statistics on life expectancy in those two but I assume it is higher than the rest of Asia and more comparable with Western Europe (not eastern).

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