What a nightmare. Bullying. (long)

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Today was the first day of clinical for Med/surg 2. My group is on the ICU step down. Needless to say the day was going to be interesting. My instructor gave me a patient, told me I would be giving meds and that was that. No problem for me, I love doing hands on with patients. Im quite quick at doing what needs to be done, doing it write, and charting it. This means I usually have time to brighten up my classmates days by helping them. Today I had finished my total patient care, and was walking around the floor to see if anyone was stressing out and needed another hand to help them out. I have experience as an EMT so things like showing the girls how to do acu-checks and the like are really helpful to move them along.

I found this one girl in my class, I wont say her name but I will call her Student 1. She appeared to be having a horrible day so I asked her what they problem was. She told me she had a pocket of meds from this morning she still hasnt given, hadnt started her charting, and still needed to find our Instructor, who I will call Instructor 1. I consoled her, told her that If she needed help, I dont mind doing anything she needed. She seemed happy about that. Then I told her, she might want to learn to be more assertive with her time management so this doesnt happen again. She snapped at me, which I can understand, she was so stressed. I just smiled and backed off a bit. I went to find Instructor 1 because I needed her to view my days work via report. I found her in one of the patients rooms on the floor. She seemed kinda stressed, which made sense since she had 8 of us running around the floor on her license ( not everyone has prior trainning like I do)

Instructor one told me to go please find Student 1 so she could do a straight cath. "NEAT!" I thought. I went around the floor, found her, and told her what she was going to get to do. She wanted nothing to do with it. I accompanied her back to the room to see her patient and the Instructor. Once again she denied wanting to do the straight cath, so the teacher asked me too. "Wow!" I thought. What a neat thing to get to do my first day this floor. I did it quite well with help from the instructor. It was a great learning opportunity. Student 1 and Instructor one then went about taking care of this patients meds since he hadnt gotten a single one all day. It was 10 past one so i was late for lunch.

I get down to the cafeteria, eat my lunch and notice that I dont know where post conference is. Here is where things got way out of control. The instructors sit across the large cafeteria together. I approached them to ask the question and Instructor 1 asks me if I can find student 1 because she forgot to give her the MAR to sign off on the medication they gave. I said, no problem. Searched for a while and finally found her. She was just sitting down to eat. I told her that the instructor wanted to see her, it was important and she needed to go. Student 1 told me flatly that she just sat down and was going to eat and be there soon. I said, no problem, after all, I understood. So I went to let the instructor know that Student 1 would only be a few minutes but that she was heading over. Instructor 1 then started YELLING at me! "YOU TELL HER TO GET OVER HERE NOW!!!!" The other three instructors immediatly reminded her that I wasnt the one she was mad at and understanding she was very stressed I told her it was OK and went to get the girl. I get back to Student 1 and tell her that it was urgent. She told me she didnt care. Kick her outta the program for all she cared, shes finishing her sandwhich and shed get over there when she was ready. I tried to stress the instructor was angry but she didnt care.

Well two minutes later I am going across the hospital to find an vending machine so I could finish my quest to obtain the fabled peanut M&M bag when I pass by a hall and see the instructor reaming the girl out. I felt bad but we all know an unsigned med is an ungiven med, and as it turned out, if the med was given twice to this patient it would have killed them. No wonder she was so angry.

Well about 10 minutes later we all go to get on the elevators to go to post conference. I go in to an elevator with the girl and her 3 gang group. I distinctly heard, "Oh hell no hes not comming on here!" So I just turned right back around, and that being the final straw of degration I could handle today went around the corner and tried not to cry. Everyone was yelling at me, and all I was doing was trying to help! :( So my previous instructor from last term came to find out why I looked so upset. I told her what I thought I heard, but didnt tell her who it was because even I didnt know. That set her off. The instructors are kinda defensive about me. She grabbed me, took me up on the elevator with the other three instructors to go talk to the girls. I of course just kept thinking, "This cant be happening, this cant be happening." The instructors kept saying things like, "We wont allow this kinda bullying to go on!" ect ect. I felt nauseas.

We got to the floor, and they round the girls up into a corner and start talking to them to find out what happened. I was waiting down the hall because I was so embarassed. I hate conflict. And these girls didnt like me before from a similar situation I posted on about in the bullying thread. Well know it was 4 against one. They told the instructors that I was lying, and an amazing actor and blah blah. The instructors believed me over these four. And that made the girls even MORE angrier. Finally the issue was left at "respect each other" and to go to post conference. I was so upset I just stayed behind and cried for 10 minutes. This was so unfair, I had had such a good day and now this? I had HELPED this person not even an hour prior cause she looked upset, and now her and her gang of girls were making me out to be a liar who was out to get them.

Finally I went into post conference and when i sat down one of the girls was giving me the "I better not see you in the parking lot after school" look. So childish, so high school. The other girls were completely pretending I didnt exist. I waited after conference till everyone had left because I was physically scared that they might do something once they were out of sight of anyone official. I just cant tell you how upsetting today was. It seems that I need to care less about others and just do my own thing. I try so hard to keep myself up, and keep all my classmates above water too. But now I feel like I am done being the nice guy that always goes out of his way to help everyone. Look what that got me today. :o

I know that was a long read. Im sorry I just had to get this all off my chest.

Specializes in PCU/Hospice/Oncology.

"Passive Agressive comes to mind. Went in there just to antagonize her." Whats that saying about me? I didnt lie. I told you what happened from my view on thursday. Only one instructor followed me around the corner. I went on friday to talk to the instructors and the other three that were there had written statements saying they witnessed the scene which I previously didnt know about. Im sorry if I didnt lay all the information out, theres only so much I can remember to write down.

Im not angry with you. Some of the things you said were defamatory, or were taken as such. I did however point out the valid things you said, and agreed that there is definitely room for improvement on my part. Your last statement is just silly. Its easier to write off the whole thing then to talk about it it seems.

Specializes in PCU/Hospice/Oncology.
Here is something on passive aggressive behavior I thought you might find interesting:

A person who shows a lot of passive-aggressive behavior can have a Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder. A person with this disorder:

dash.jpgIs irritable, defensive, and resentfuldash.jpgLacks self-confidencedash.jpgHas a hard time getting pleasure from relationships with othersdash.jpgFeels others are making unreasonable demands on him or her, but thinks he or she is doing a better job than what they are given credit fordash.jpgBlames others for his or her problemsdash.jpgIs not aware that his or her self-defeating behaviors are part of their personality

:lol2: Im not any of these things. It takes alot to get on my nerves, and I dont hold grudges. Im quite confident in my studies and skills. I have many friends and have been with my loving partner for 4 years and its a very healthy relationship. Hmm sometimes people can give unreasonable demands but thats when you need to step up and just get them done ;) I will admit though, me and cookies definitely have a self defeating behavior. I eat them all.

Hope that helped.

Specializes in MS, Hospice, LTC.

How does someone venting and seeking emotional support turn into an attack on their character? I don't think that's the intention of allnurses.com.

I agree with Sophie. Kuku gave some good advice but was quite abrasive and condescending. I would have expected a somewhat different tone while giving advice from someone who is so knowledgeable about people skills. But like I said, there was GOOD advice given and this is appreciated. ;)

I meant to be like that- to prove a point and have said so above. Everyone has a point where they get defensive and protective and this response is what he has hit a nerve on in his interactions.

I don't profess to have have good people skills, I am still learning and always will be, but I did have some relevant information and thought I would share it.

Specializes in Telemetry.

That's great that you have experience and all... but you're the STUDENT, NOT the teacher. I think you need to learn your roll.

Specializes in Trauma, Teaching.

Give over guys! He tried to do something nice, and got blasted for it. Doesn't seem passive aggresive to me, there really are people who leave way too much stuff undone. Two of my staff nurses left orders undone IN THE ER for more than 6-8 hours! Does that mean its my fault as the charge nurse for wanting something done about it (totally horrific night, I was busy with the traumas, intubations and one death...missed orders were on holdovers we couldn't get admitted because the power was off, emergency generators going but the inpaitent rooms had no lights ARGGH private vent over).

Dreamer, you aren't the teacher, the only fault I see that was yours was trying to address her lack of organization directly, let your instructors do that. I'd have appreciated any nurse in the ER stepping up, saying they were caught and what else did I need done. Ask the instructor, not your fellows. You had a crappy day, there'll be more. sorry, but we all will

Don't be afraid to work with others in the future, just learn which are the toxic ones to stay away from. I think you've got a head start on that one!:monkeydance:

And as far as those cookies go ..... I've got some extra GS cookies haven't sold yet?:lol2:

I learn a lot from ppl on these forums... and debating and critiquing is a great way to get people to share their knowledge. I hope there are no hard feelings.

Specializes in midwifery, NICU.
Dear theDreamer:

I am very suspicious that you are a troll, despite your numerous posts. On the off chance that you aren't, I feel a responsibilty to tell you, judging from the tone of your post, your classmates most likely find you smug and obnoxious. If are really bullied and somehow victimized, my guess is that you are bringing this on yourself.

:uhoh21: :uhoh21: WOAH--BACK OFF A BIT!!! This is way TOO personal an attack, and v v V harsh!! The purpose of this site is for people to be able to voice, not to be verbally shot down!! Reading back this post, this is whats happening! Personal slating of character is not on! Time this thread was closed I think, before the poor guy feels even worse! Whatever the rights and wrongs were, take care thedreamer, and hope you will feel free to post here again when you need some support and a place to vent, after all we all do it! :madface:

Specializes in MS, Hospice, LTC.
:uhoh21: :uhoh21: WOAH--BACK OFF A BIT!!! This is way TOO personal an attack, and v v V harsh!! The purpose of this site is for people to be able to voice, not to be verbally shot down!! Reading back this post, this is whats happening! Personal slating of character is not on! Time this thread was closed I think, before the poor guy feels even worse! Whatever the rights and wrongs were, take care thedreamer, and hope you will feel free to post here again when you need some support and a place to vent, after all we all do it! :madface:

Amen!!!

Specializes in Onc/Hem, School/Community.
I pretty much have kept to myself for quite some time. I used to try and give students a hand until I realized I was over stepping my boundaries (I was a CNA for a while before I started nursing school - so I never really had a problem with time management/basic care).

One day I was helping one of my classmates clean up their patient because she was getting behind in her work, and she got a bit snippy with me about it. I looked at it from her point of view and realized I was probably making her feel bad. She was trying her hardest to keep up and feeling stressed, and then I waltzed in acting like clinicals was a piece of cake.

If anyone asks for help, I'm more than happy to give a hand, but otherwise I generally leave my fellow nursing students be. It would probably be wise to be courteous and professional towards them, but to more or less keep to yourself in the future.

I have six years CNA experience and am in nursing school, so I know what you mean. I tend to have a problem with everyone consulting with me and asking me for help with one thing or another; however, as soon as my hemiparalytic patient needs his bottom cleaned, (Needless to say, I needed someone to hold him on his side), and I ask for help - its like pulling teeth. Most of my classmates think that they shouldn't have to do any "dirty" work. It really ticks me off. Sorry for stealing the thread w/ my rant. ;)

Specializes in PCU/Hospice/Oncology.

Hey kim, you can ask me to help you clean up anytime! Being the only male on my floor I tend to get asked ALOT to help lift, move, reposition patients. Not just by my fellow students but also the staff nurses! Its nice to be able to help and lend a smile ya know?

Keep being awesome! And if theres anything I have learned so far, its that our CNAs are a godsend, so treat them very very well! Im blessed enough to be doing clinicals at a hospital where all the CNAs work very hard and genuinely care about the patient :) Its a nice feeling to work beside them and the staff. Most of them have big hearts! ;)

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