Survivors' guilt -- losing classmates - page 2
We just finished up a 10-week med/surg rotation. While everyone passed the clinical portion, the theory tests were the downfall for 20+ students. Among them were two of my very closest classmates.... Read More
Apr 14, '03We've lost about 35 students at my school. Most were my friends, young single moms, working and going to school, managing a ton of things.
This last year has been tough without them, but I realized I have to do it, so that I can guarantee my future.
My best friend in the entire world failed out, then entered the LPN program, which she failed out of last quarter. We still work out and take our kids to the park together.
Other friends I don't really see or talk to .
It's definitely sad, especially when your friends need that degree just as bad, or worse than you do.
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ADN on June 13, 2003
Apr 14, '03I am in a BSN program and we start our 10 week med/surg at the end of April. How was it? I worked on med/surge for 2 years but it has been 2 years and I just want to get it over with. My school makes us go individually and I wish I had someone to lean on. Oh well, thats the breaks
Apr 14, '03Hi,
For those of you who are continuing students, what would you say are the areas in which people who "fail out" have problems in? Is it the math that gets em.....? the theory? clinicals? I ask this because the rate of failure for some of your programs seem sooooo high! What are your observations and opinions?
Apr 14, '03The classmates we have lost so far have been for a variety of reasons. A few flunked out of pharm and A&P. (They are not allowed to go on if a grade is unacceptable and will have to take it again when it is avail) It will be interesting to see how we all do with this clinical rotation. I do know that several of us are just burned out. Most of us have FT jobs and kids and now we add clinicals on the weekends after class all day Saturday. It's insane. I work Mon-Fri, class Sat morning and will have a clinical from 2p-10. I do not want to stop, but it is hard. Have to keep thinking of the big picture. Im a zombie half the time. Any good advice?
Apr 14, '03In my class we actually didn't lose any students due to Math, or Pharmacology.
We lost alot of students taking anatomy concurrent to nursing.
We lost alot to the failing of video tapes ( yes we must video tape our skills, and either get pass/fail) failing one skill on tape leaves you out of the program.
Also, a few people just "decided" that nursing was definitely NOT for them.
We just lost 9 people in the cardiac quarter of senior year.
june 13, 2003 to graduate ADN
Apr 14, '03In my class, most of the people fail the theory/lecture portion of the class. Maybe 2/semester have failed the math. We have had a few who failed both theory and clinical portions of the class. It's very hard to adjust to the style of testing my school uses. There are very few basic knowledge questions and tons that require you to analyze and prioritize.
Apr 15, '03Very interesting thread.
In my class, we have lost a few over the last couple of years. It's very hard when it is a person you 've become close to. Fortunately, I stay in touch with a couple of them and still do stuff with them. It's important to me to maintain these friends and contacts I feel that group success if my success. While I'm mostly concerned with my passing nursing school, the whole group passing is crucial and we all try to help where we can; they say our group is very "cohesive."
Apr 16, '03we've lost about 75 students in my cohort! I don't get survivors guilt, just areal big fear that it could be me next!
Apr 16, '03We have lost a few classmates. My friends aren't part of that group of people. I am waiting to see what happens as alot of people are failing the tests. I know I am passing. Our grade for clinical is either a pass/ fail. We haven't had anyone fail clinical yet. I keep up with alot of the ones that dropped only because we see each other during micro, or A&P. I do feel bad for the ones that are dropped in my class. One person had to drop because family issues were making it difficult for her to study. Sometimes it is a lack funds that causes problems. Sometimes it is a lack of trying as well. It is always sad when I see a familiar face leave the school.
Apr 16, '03so can they reapply or do the year over or what? It seems so harsh to be 8 wks from graduation, and then have no hope of succeeding with all those goals they accomplished previously! The newspaper had a big article on the attrition rate at nursing colleges. If nurses are so desparately needed, they should have a program set up to help those struggling, not knock them out on their butts the moment they fall! What about mentors? Something! It scares the heck out of me that I will be one of those! Heather
P.S. Thanks for letting me vent!
Apr 16, '03I think I would feel slightly guilty as well. However, I would feel darn proud that I was still there!
You just have to keep on truckin' and dont let it interfere with your success. As much as we love and care about our friends, we still have to take care of #1!!
Apr 16, '03I feel bad for the ones that I saw putting forth a lot of effort, but as was mentioned by other posters, I just don't have time to keep in touch. I have enough guilt knowing I can't volunteer at my kids' school like I used to, clean the house, etc. I don't need to add any more guilt onto my life!