I have to be bathed by my classmate??? - page 9

:imbar Ok call me old fashioned but I am kind of concerned. I had my nursing orientation today, and I was informed that as part of one of my practical nursing classes I will have to be sponge bathed... Read More

  1. by   FROGGYLEGS
    Sponge baths we did. They weren't nearly as bad as what we'd built them up to be. If you do it right, there really isn't an invasion of privacy.
    Last edit by FROGGYLEGS on May 27, '04
  2. by   Ted
    We did the sponge bath thing with your class mate too. We wore shorts. Ladies wore some kind of top. And it was men/men, women/women. Still don't understand why manaquins weren't used, though. And we were not given a choice. Oh well.

    I have a related story. . .

    After getting my A. S. in nursing, I decided to go on and get the B. S. in nursing. One mandatory class was an advanced assessment class. At one point, we were going over the lung fields. Part of the "educational process" was knowing EXACTLY where the lung fields were on the body. In order to demonstrate our knowledge of knowing where the lung fields were on the body, we had to draw them on each other using a wash-off marking pen. Of course, this meant taking off our shirts, bra and all!!

    Now. I was the ONLY male in the class. On the day that we were to do this rather dreaded part of the course, I had come to class a bit late. All of the females had paired off except for one who was later than I was to class! We were the last paired students obligated to draw lung fields on each other's bodies!

    What was interesting was that she was in her late 60's. She already had her MSN and spent most of her nursing career as a DON for some healthcare facility. She was only taking this class for her own benefit.

    Well, we did just fine with the whole "learning process", drawing and all. I was more nervous than she was, though. My hand was shaking as I drew the lines on her. . . errrrr. . . front. (The instructor was there watching, as she did for all the paired students, making sure I used the correct land marks on the body to ensure correct placement of the lung field lines.) Actually, she was totally cool with the whole deal! But it was wierd. I didn't like it one bit. Wish we didn't have to do it. And at that point in time for that particular college's nursing curriculum, it was manditory. At that time, there was no way getting around from doing this little "learning exercise".

    And I was not too pleased when it came time for her to mark lung fields on my body! I'm a bit on the chubby side and I don't particularly like having people see my belly. . . HUMPH!!!

    But we surived. I got an "A" in the course! AND I KNOW MY LUNG FIELDS!!!

    Ted
    Last edit by Ted on May 30, '04
  3. by   z's playa
    Quote from TMPaul
    There was 1 guy..... we had his wife come in and be his partner.
    She probably heard about it and insisted. :chuckle
  4. by   Dayray
    Yeah we had to do it too.

    We were told to wear bathing suits and it was no bid deal. I would have bulked at the underwear thing though. It was more uncomfortable then bathing a patient or then being bathed by a nurse in the hospital but I can kind of see the logic in it.

    My partner and I had known each other for years and well we both were a little uncomfortable. we managed to get threw the bath as well as the IM injections we practiced on each other in the ventral gludial site. We were of different genders so that added a little bit of stress to the whole thing.

    All and all, I think if you object to it you will be let out of it. For us it wasn't worth the effort to fight it but I can see how it would bother other people and I think if it's that embarrassing to you, you should ask to be excused.

    I however really agree with the practicing of IV's and injections on each other. This is something that every nurse should know how it feels when done correctly vs incorrectly. I also think it's a real confidence booster, when you walk into a room for that first real Iv start. You feel better knowing that you have at least once successfully started an IV. Add to that the fact that patients have a right not to be practice dummies and I'd have a hard time justifying a refusal practicing IV's on each other.
  5. by   a_clay
    Quote from WannaBLPN2005
    :imbar Ok call me old fashioned but I am kind of concerned. I had my nursing orientation today, and I was informed that as part of one of my practical nursing classes I will have to be sponge bathed by one of my classmates and in turn need to sponge bathe a classmate. Ok fine. No worries. HOWEVER, the next breath was, you will have to strip down to your underwear only and your classmate will drape you and sponge bathe you and vice versa. I understand that as a nurse I will give sponge baths to patients and I have no problem with that. But one of my classmates that I am going to spend hours and hours with for the next 2 years bathing me is a whole other story! True, like the instructor said it lets you know first hand how the patient will feel while you are abthing them, so you will want to treat them with dignity but being an overweight gal I am uncomfortable with this because I will have to look at these classmates for the next 2 years. Did anyone else ever do this as part of their curriculum? I don't mean to freak out but I never heard of this. They can stick me with all the needles they want for practice, but bathe the mannequins...lol
    WHEW!!! I just saw that you are from Paducah, KY. I am originally from Murray, KY. I ALMOST went to your school for nursing but then decided to move to Dallas, TX. I sure am glad I did!!! It seems like there should be some kind of rule or something that would make this out of the question. I would definately find out about that. That sounds horrible. Good luck to you though!
  6. by   bungy
    Yeah, we did it too - bathing suits or shorts/top. I found it enlightening - my partner was an experienced EN (um...LPN?) who I knew quite well and trusted, but even then I felt vulnerable. I think it is important that you understand a little of how the patient feels. But stripping to your undies? No way!!
    :imbar
  7. by   gomedina
    Well, we did the same in school but it's mostly with the same gender - and being a guy, it's not easy to be bathed by another dude (if you know what i mean)

    Anyway, most of the class appreciate it since we're all going to be nurses anyway so no malice done. We're scheduled to do parentheral application (IM, Intradermal and subcutaneous) this Monday with one another. Let me tell you, nothing beats the real thing!

    I just figured it's all better than doing pereneal flushing! :imbar
  8. by   TeenyBabyRN
    i have read these posts in total shock and amazement. we did not sponge bathe each other at all
    we did not do it in our shorts
    we did not do it in a fort
    we did not eat green eggs and ham...

    and we absolutely did not give each other im injections ( omg - i can't even believe that one!). i guess we were "pampered" in my program. lucky for me too, i would have found another major fast!

    by the way, all the patients i performed procedures on for the first time lived to tell about it
  9. by   z's playa
    Quote from teenybabyrn
    i have read these posts in total shock and amazement. we did not sponge bathe each other at all
    we did not do it in our shorts
    we did not do it in a fort
    we did not eat green eggs and ham...

    and we absolutely did not give each other im injections ( omg - i can't even believe that one!). i guess we were "pampered" in my program. lucky for me too, i would have found another major fast!

    by the way, all the patients i performed procedures on for the first time lived to tell about it
    did you read about the pap smears in the np program?
  10. by   Farkinott
    The Uni tried that crap when I studied there. As a whole we just said no!
    No further correspondence was entered into.
    Remember, academics (eg. course proscribers) live in another world sometimes!
  11. by   Nurse-o-Matic
    There I lay exposed and vulnerable in my shorts and tanktop. . .I can feel the 40 pairs of eyes of my classmates and instructor as they snicker watching, waiting. . . I shudder as I watch my partner, evil grin masking her face, dunk the sponge into a pan and draw up water. I close my eyes tightly, grimacing painfully as the warm cloth is harshly scrubbed against my tender flesh. Again and again she tortures me with this treatment, laughing hysterically everytime she encounters a glimpse of my copious cellulite. My only solice occurs when she directly peers at my bulging fat rolls and is forced to pause momentarily to vomit into the pail she has placed at the side of the bed. . .Later I overhear my instructor and the other students recounting details regarding how horrific it was to view the procedure. A few are even crying softly and being consoled by other students. I hear they are now planning a post traumatic stress meeting. . .
  12. by   Silicone
    Thanks Nurse-o-Matic,
    can't remember the last time I laughed so hard!

    Samantha
  13. by   carcha
    I really feel uncomfortable with this one. Although on the surface it appears harmless I would like to know what research your tutors have come up with to support this practice. Do you really need to have a sponge bath yourself to know what the patient feels like. I have been a nurse for many years and dident need to be a practice dummy to treat the patient with respect and dignity. Lets face it your practice with fellow students is not going to imitate reality, after all I'm sure your all fit healthy young adults unlike patients who are physically or emotionally unfit. I dont like this hands on thing at all. Will you have to pass a catheter on each other to know how that feels too. Do you see where I am coming from. I just feel its a breach of your rights to subject yourselves to this unnecessary intrusion of your body. I would say no.

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