Disturbing to anyone else???? NEED HELP. - page 2

Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a... Read More

  1. by   traumaRUs
    While I do agree that the pneumonic is cute (its an old one), saying the F-word is just not professional and unnecessary. I am known to to occasionally have a potty-mouth, but not with patients, families, other professionals or students. Its kept private and usually work or school isn't the appropriate place.

    As to the eating/drinking - I tend to agree with the majority here - pick your fights. I would complain about the f-word but not the drinking and eating.


    Good luck.
  2. by   sirI
    Quote from traumaRUs
    While I do agree that the pneumonic is cute (its an old one), saying the F-word is just not professional and unnecessary. I am known to to occasionally have a potty-mouth, but not with patients, families, other professionals or students. Its kept private and usually work or school isn't the appropriate place.

    As to the eating/drinking - I tend to agree with the majority here - pick your fights. I would complain about the f-word but not the drinking and eating.


    Good luck.
    I totally agree with you, traumaRUs. The language in class (F-word) is not professional and I cannot imagine why the instructor feels the need to interject this obscenity within her lectures? This, to me, implies the inability to formulate an idea and communicate said idea without resorting to vulgarities/obscenities. Also, it conveys a lack of respect for the students.
  3. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from siri
    I totally agree with you, traumaRUs. The language in class (F-word) is not professional and I cannot imagine why the instructor feels the need to interject this obscenity within her lectures? This, to me, implies the inability to formulate an idea and communicate said idea without resorting to vulgarities/obscenities. Also, it conveys a lack of respect for the students.
    I agree. Pulling out an oldie that y'all are probably sick of from my grandma . . . .

    "Profanity is ignorance made audible".

    The teacher has some infantile need to put the focus on her cool self by saying the "F" word . . . when it doesn't take any intelligence to say it . . . . ..

    She MUST know it will offend some, so why even do it in the first place? Because she just doesn't care. It is all about her.

    And that is very unprofessional.

    As to the drinking - I definitely think that is nuts. But eating in class is very distracting and I can see the point there. I wouldn't mention either though.

    steph
  4. by   sirI
    "Profanity is ignorance made audible".
    Somehow, I've missed your reference to this, steph.

    Very wise grandma..........
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from siri
    Somehow, I've missed your reference to this, steph.

    Very wise grandma..........
    Oh siri, I post it whenever we have a profanity thread . . .


    steph
  6. by   Halinja
    I agree with those who say the use of the word is unecessary. I also agree with those who say let it go. After two years of nursing school I've come to realize you have to let the instructor's personality roll off your back, and concentrate on the material.

    I do have a great psych instructor story though. Our psych instructor was in the 'anorexia/bulimia' section. She suddenly paused in her lecture and asked, "Does everyone know why women get plastic surgery?" We all awaited her revelation. I know I was expecting information on 'disturbed body image', or at the very least a discussion on poor self esteem. But no. The reason women get plastic surgery? "To get other women's husbands." My jaw dropped. We were all stunned. Some of my fellow students think she was joking, some of us are pretty sure she was serious.

    What does my story have to do with the thread? Probably nothing, except what seems shocking or awful at the time can make great stories later on.
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Halinja
    I agree with those who say the use of the word is unecessary. I also agree with those who say let it go. After two years of nursing school I've come to realize you have to let the instructor's personality roll off your back, and concentrate on the material.

    I do have a great psych instructor story though. Our psych instructor was in the 'anorexia/bulimia' section. She suddenly paused in her lecture and asked, "Does everyone know why women get plastic surgery?" We all awaited her revelation. I know I was expecting information on 'disturbed body image', or at the very least a discussion on poor self esteem. But no. The reason women get plastic surgery? "To get other women's husbands." My jaw dropped. We were all stunned. Some of my fellow students think she was joking, some of us are pretty sure she was serious.

    What does my story have to do with the thread? Probably nothing, except what seems shocking or awful at the time can make great stories later on.
    What is it with psych instructors?

    My instructor was lecturing in front of the class, placed her little finger in her ear and twisted it around as if she had an itch, pulled it out, looked at whatever she had pulled out of there and then placed her finger in her mouth and sucked whatever it was off. :uhoh21: All the while talking.

    It was sort of an unconscious thing, like eating boogers . . . but it grossed us out.

    steph
  8. by   Halinja
    Quote from stevielynn
    My instructor was lecturing in front of the class, placed her little finger in her ear and twisted it around as if she had an itch, pulled it out, looked at whatever she had pulled out of there and then placed her finger in her mouth and sucked whatever it was off. :uhoh21: All the while talking.
    Eeeeuuuuyyyooo!
  9. by   Tweety
    Quote from ExTechie
    Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a problem.

    Do I rat??? I am so uncomfortable. Please help.


    I think at the very least you should let her know that yes, for you, it is a problem. If no one says anything to her she's going to presume it's o.k.

    No, don't rat on her about the drinks. If it's truly a problem with they will hang themselves.

    If the "f" word slips often, and it bothers you, then yes perhaps a note to the higher ups would be in order. This is not acceptable behavior for an instructor.

    Try to separate your learning from this discomfort because you're going to focusing on the wrong thing and miss something.
  10. by   Jules A
    Is she really dropping the F-bomb in lectures or was that a just a heads up that sometimes she may slip? I agree with the folks that said if she is a nice, good and fair teacher I wouldn't care what kind of language she uses because, sad to say, you might just run into some teachers that are neither nice, good or fair.

    I don't think it is unreasonable for her to have a drink since she is speaking for so long and bound to get dry. Students eating used to drive me crazy. I just don't get why, unless in the case of the rare health issue, they couldn't sit for a few hours without stuffing something into their mouths.
  11. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Jules A
    Is she really dropping the F-bomb in lectures or was that a just a heads up that sometimes she may slip? I agree with the folks that said if she is a nice, good and fair teacher I wouldn't care what kind of language she uses because, sad to say, you might just run into some teachers that are neither nice, good or fair.

    I don't think it is unreasonable for her to have a drink since she is speaking for so long and bound to get dry. Students eating used to drive me crazy. I just don't get why, unless in the case of the rare health issue, they couldn't sit for a few hours without stuffing something into their mouths.
    The eating is just wrong in my opinion too.

    If she really was nice, she would take into consideration that many people do not like profanity and stop. Why push it into people's faces - what does that prove?

    steph
  12. by   JentheRN05
    I don't see this as a big deal. I'm known as being very outspoken, not annoyingly so but I do speak my mind when needed. I had an instructor who I completely admired who was fired over swearing in class. Come on, you guys are adults, you are expected to act like adults - can leave class or skip entirely if you choose to, you can go outside and smoke if you want to, swear if you want to, what makes instructors immune to this behavior? This particular instructor was only fired because it was a catholic school and she went off on a student because they nearly killed a patient (a hx of allergic reaction - anaphalaxis) to morphine and the student nurse almost gave that drug to one of the patients. She was out of line but it scared the heck out of her at the time and she over-reacted.
    In either case, you truly need to be a little less sensitive and a little more understanding that this instructor probably knew it would get your (entire classes) attention, and obviously it did work didn't it?
  13. by   traumaRUs
    I respectfully disagree with you JentheRN05. I consider myself a professional and I do teach. In the academic domain, it is considered by the marjority to be ignorant to resort to profanity. Yes, everyone can slip. However, since the instructor mentioned it in the first meeting, I would be concerned that it might be a frequent slip.

    I go back to the idea of being a consumer. I paid for an education. I already know lots of swear words. However, I am paying for knowledge that I don't know.

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