Could I fail because of this? can't be that bad...

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    So today has not been a good day. At the clinical placement (community) the CI asked me to do a presentation for the whole organization. This is the last week of this placement and I'm not comfortable with doing this presentations since my project is complete and I have other things to study for. So I told the CI "no because I don't feel comfortable doing it and I dont think I should be doing it alone as decision making and participation should include the group". The CI wasnt happy and insisted that I do it and I finally said "ok it will be done as a group"..I also pointed out to the CI several errors she made and questioned her reasoning..

    Im pretty concerned I may not get the credit because of this now. I'd really appreciate some input on this situation
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    Quote from mursetudent25
    I also pointed out to the CI several errors she made and questioned her reasoning..
    Up until this line, you were still above water. So, she conceded to your request, then you followed it up with questioning her further? I dont know if it will fail you. That depends on your schools policy. I can say that you will not be getting a positive review from her. Again, that depends on your school how valuable that is. In my school, preceptorships are handed out on the basis of strong clinical performance which is totally subjective from your clinical instructor. bad review = another clinical with 6 other people rather than a 1:1 preceptorship. What does your school qualify as a failure? Has your performance up until this point been a success?
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    Well the evaluation is based on certain objectives, so she would have to provide reasons of how I didn't meet those objectives or justify her poor review. Up to today my performance has been very good and I've completed all of my project tasks and she in writing told me that my work is good..How would it be possible to give me a poor review or fail me? All of my questions and pointing out the mistakes have been based on fact and I was not wrong.
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    Quote from mursetudent25
    Up to today my performance has been very good and I've completed all of my project tasks and she in writing told me that my work is good..How would it be possible to give me a poor review or fail me?
    Isnt that what you asked in the first place? You just answered your own question. If objectively, you met the requirements for the course, then you will pass. What I am saying is that passing does not equal good reviews from the instructor. It means you met the minimum requirements of the course. instructors talk to each other. if you leave a bad taste in their mouth, it could get passed on and poision your next instructors perception of you before you even meet them. Instructors are wrong sometimes... You need to think of your future and let it go. You passed this time. but try to repair the relationship with this instructor before the quarter is over. it will only help you.
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    " Well the evaluation is based on certain objectives, so she would have to provide reasons of how I didn't meet those objectives or justify her poor review. Up to today my performance has been very good and I've completed all of my project tasks and she in writing told me that my work is good..How would it be possible to give me a poor review or fail me? All of my questions and pointing out the mistakes have been based on fact and I was not wrong."

    So what do you want to know then? What question are you asking? You asked if you could fail from this and she was only answering your question. Don't ask if you know the answer, or do not want to hear other feedback.

    In my opinion, I think that you were wrong for refusing to present because "you had other things to study for". Who are you? The student! They could give you a poor review for not doing what was asked and for having a poor attitude.

    Sorry if I am snippy, but you are coming across sounding quite arrogant.
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    Sorry. The main thing I'm concerned about is whether refusing to present could be considered unprofessional. The presentation is mostly insignificant and the project is done and I've met the project objectives but still, could it be considered unprofessional..that is also an objective.
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    Uh yea that is unprofessional. Part of having to do presentations/seminars during class/clinical is so that you can become comfortable with it. Ours is usually done as a community service/service learning type project and is part of clinical. Personally if I had refused, I probably would have been told "See ya later" and gotten an Unsatisfactory in clinical(which is failure to progress).
    loriangel14 likes this.
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    I think it is unprofessional. If you aren't completing the objectives your instructor is within his/her rights to fail you. My advice is to suck it up, do the assignment, and pass the class.
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    I would agree that it was unprofessional.
    At some point in your career, you may be asked (expected, really) to do a presentation for work.
    I was once pulled off the floor to discuss/add to a topic for an inservice that was starting in... 30 minutes!
    Talk about pressure!
    I had to pull it out of my bum and quick!
    The point is, I couldn't really say "no".
    Yes, I busy and no, I didn't have much time to prepare, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
    That was your time to shine!
    I'm afraid you missed it and did not leave a favorable impression.
    Whether the CI will pass you, I have no clue.
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    Agreeing with Katie & HQ, I wouldn't ever pass up an opportunity to make a presentation, especially if asked to do so.

    No, I'm not a polished presenter. But I'd like to be. And the only way to be one, is to practice, usually with preparation, hopefully.

    Ever hear of Toastmasters? Weekly opportunities to make impromptu presentations, among other things. "Murse, stand up & give us an organized 2-minute talk. Your topic is __________. Go"
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