Accredited or not Accredited ?

SummitRN, BSN, RN · Oct 31, 2012

You sound just like an employer.

I just understand how they think.

I don't know how to change the system. All I know how to do is make long-winded posts that some pre-nursing student will hopefully read and play their cards right so that they don't scream "I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD BE THIS WAY!" after they've gone through all the labor and cost of nursing school.

I guess I'll have to try and outshine the other 499 applicants with my experience and competence

Everyone has to. With the odds as bad as they are, with such an overabundance of good applicants, I believe that for many, playing your cards right is still no guarantee and that it sadly comes down to some measure of luck.

Perhaps the HR lady looked at my pile of paper after her kid called and wished her a happy birthday and the warm fuzzy transferred to her evaluation of my paperwork not earning the circular filing bin. Statistically, my odds of even getting an interview for the position I did were worse than getting into the competitive school that I went to.

May you have the same good luck!

RNpearls1908 · Oct 31, 2012

Nbr1nurse

Yea I know I have heard of schools that are contracted with other grad schools. I was saying the regional accrediation helps out for those like myself who have plans on going out of state to grad schools and not to one of the partner schools contracted. As far as I'm concerned accrediation matters just as having an apprpriate license to practice matters there should be no If's ands or buts

I think it just makes sense to have all the accrediation because you never know what and where life might take you so you have to be prepared for anything.

RNpearls1908 · Oct 31, 2012

Plus it makes your choices more diversed as opposed to limiting you to be able to only attend or apply for jobs in certain areas or partnership schools

rubato, ASN, RN · Oct 31, 2012

I plan to get my degree, work a few years and move out of state. A non-accredited school isn't an option for me. I want to be able to move wherever my heart, or my husband's heart, desires. I knew this going in to my prereqs, so it wasn't a big deal. Get a 4.0, ace all tests, and get accepted into nursing school the first year (okay, it was a big deal, never mind).

hafsat · Dec 17, 2012

Does anyone know what the situation would be if the ADN program was not accredited but the BSN program is? I graduated from an ADN program that is state BON approved, but not accredited by the NLN. However, I did my RN to BSN program at at CCNE accredited school. So far, this has not been an issue for me. Do they look more heavily at the original school of nursing, or the highest degree achieved?

[COLOR=#003366]CarryThatWeight

@ CarrythatWeight, please i need more information from you. Am about to graduate from a non accredited nursing program;am planning to do my RN TO BSN from a CCNE accredited school. Will the employers put much prominence on my ADN over my BSN. Thank you

PookieBaby_RN · Oct 23, 2015

hi there curious to how you graduating from a state approved rn program has affected you endorsement to other states and education advancements. I eventually would like to practice in california and advance to bsn . currently got accepted to a texas stat approved program no accredited by nln. asny feed back is appreciated thank u!

Krys51486 · Jul 26, 2016

Can someone clarifiy for me the difference between approved but not accredited? The school I'm interested in says they are approved on the Florida BON but not accredited. Looks like they are nationally accredited?

GAmkc · Jul 17, 2017

I wanted to see if the same consensus were true for new ADN nursing programs. They have their initial license from the state but no accreditation from ACEN or NLN. Graduation from there would allow you to sit for the NCLEX-RN. I know that there is a process to becoming accredited and it is not immediate.

Nick Ezim · Jan 23, 2020

Can you tell me the name of the school that accepted the nurse from non accredited school. I have someone with similar problems. Non RN to BSN sch is accepting the person

Nick Ezim · Jan 23, 2020

What is the name of the sch you went for your BSN. I know someone with similar problem. Unable to find a sch for BSN

TheDudeWithTheBigDog, ADN, RN · Jan 24, 2020

On 7/26/2016 at 4:25 PM, Krys51486 said:
Can someone clarifiy for me the difference between approved but not accredited? The school I'm interested in says they are approved on the Florida BON but not accredited. Looks like they are nationally accredited?

The 2 words are very similar in meaning. When you're talking about a school you can use approved and accredited interchangeably.

There's 3 different accreditations for nursing schools (and a lot of other programs). The most important accreditations are the regional and state. Regional is a requirement for every college in the country. If you don't have that accreditation, you don't get to have a school, and if a school doesn't have a regional accreditation then it's a scam. Second, but technically equal when it comes to nursing is the state accreditation. This is a requirement in all 50 states to be able to take your licensing exam. It means that the school's program is up to the state's standards.

What people are usually talking about when they say accredited, is national accreditations, like CCNE or ACEN, which in reality don't mean a thing, but these organizations have created a monster that exists for no reason other than to punish students, because the schools that they don't accredit will still fill their program every year and the teachers will still all have jobs, but their graduates can be screwed for life. They market their schools as having a higher standard of education, which created an environment where a lot of schools won't accept your transfer, and a lot of jobs won't even look at your application if you didn't graduate from one of those schools.

It's complete BS, a logo on a school's website doesn't mean that they have a higher quality of education than one that doesn't, but because of a passiveness that I complain a lot about when it comes to the current healthcare industry, we're letting people suffer because their school didn't stand up to some completely arbitrary standards, while the state BON who is in control of all the nursing in that state, feels that school teaches to high enough standards that their graduates can be trusted as RNs. It's gotten so bad that experienced nurses struggle getting jobs because of the school they went to 10 years ago.

You're going to learn about advocating in nursing school. Just remember, that doesn't only mean for your patients, advocate for nurses too. The best thing you can do for the nursing industry is to organize and be part of a fight against these national agencies. They're creating schools that the focus is on bureaucracy to get and stay accredited rather than quality education. Do you really think any patient cares what college their nurse went to? No, all they care about is the care that they get from the nurse. But these accreditations are enough that the CEOs of AACN, who is in charge of the CCNE accreditation... let's just say that in 2013, between the current and former CEO, they paid $700,000 in payroll to those 2 people. THAT is what the nursing industry is letting screw people out of jobs and schools.