"I Haven't Made Any Friends Yet!"

Many first-semester and first-quarter nursing students worry about not finding new friends while in school. Don't become too concerned over not making friends in your nursing program. It is true that bonding with classmates is always a good thing, but always remember that you aren't in nursing school to make friends. Your primary goal for being there is to learn how to become a competent nurse. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

Countless first-semester and first-quarter nursing students worriedly exclaim, "I haven't made any friends in nursing school!"

Over the years I've made a few curious observations about the nursing students who express the most concern about having made no friends. They typically fall into the traditional college-age range of 18 to 24 years old. Also, they generally enjoyed very active social lives during their high school years and continued socializing well into early adulthood.

On the other hand, the pupils who seem the least concerned about making friends in school tend to be people whom we'd refer to as the adult learners, also known as nontraditional students or reentry adults. According to the Indiana University of Pennsylvania (2012), nontraditional adult student learners are loosely defined as those undergraduate students who are 25 years of age or older. A key characteristic distinguishing reentry adults from other college students is the high likelihood that they are juggling other life roles while attending school, including those of worker, spouse or partner, parent, caregiver, and community member (Ross-Gordon, 2011).

Why do some students obsess over not making new friends while others are unconcerned about meeting people? A number of reasons can explain the gap in priorities.

First of all, let's briefly discuss identity formation, which is a maturity process whereby a person constructs a sense of self. Even though most developmental theories indicate that peoples' identities should fully take shape by the late teens, in real life the process of developing a sense of self takes much longer for many individuals. Thus, a 21-year-old whose identity has not completely formed is still going to place a far greater emphasis on her circle of friends and peer group than the 30-year-old who already has a solid sense of self.

Finally, most nontraditional-aged students have fully launched into adulthood and, therefore, deal with adult obligations such as full-time employment, marriage, child-rearing, household bills, and other duties that leave little time for sustaining new friendships. While a number of traditional college-age students have taken on these same adult responsibilities, many in this age range still do not have these commitments, so they have more time for bonding with new friends.

In summary, don't get too worked up over not making friends in your nursing program. You will look back at this experience many years from now and it will be water under the bridge. While forming positive bonds with classmates is always a good thing, remember that you aren't there to make friends. You're there to learn how to become a competent nurse and earn your degree or diploma, and you can achieve these goals with or without friends in your nursing program.

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I went to college from 17-21. I knew then it was going to be one of the last chances at socialization available on a big scale. Also most of the students my age also did not have children or big obligations outside of work. Also, most of my old high school friends had many friends they made in college. i went to a bsn program and the last 2 years were all nursi g classes and clinicals. so i only spent time with those classmates. There wasnt much interaction with students from other majors.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
I'm not necessarily implying that having a solid sense of self or being 'older' reduces a person's need to have friends. I'm also not implying that all young adults (18 to 25 age range) have unformed identities, because many have a strong sense of self.

However, countless young adults do have identities that never quite took shape. I'm saying that the adult whose identity has not yet developed will still place the highest emphasis on one's peer group and circle of friends, just like many teens do.

Most teens are very into their peer groups in their search for their identities. The handful of young adults who have identities that have not fully formed are also deeply into their peer groups as they search for their identities.

I did not delve into the topic of personality types, but I feel that extroverted people of all ages have a greater need for friends than introverts from all age groups.

I agree....and this is a generation of socil media of how many "friends" and "likes" you have and value self worth by how many "follow" them on twitter.....they place way too much value of being "liked" by complete strangers.

They need to find it from within themselves.

Specializes in hospice, HH, LTC, ER,OR.

Most of my 175 classmates are older. I have a small select group of friends, and this is because we all started online together in the LPN/Paramedic/RN bridge program. We only have class one day a week and we are split into two groups of 75 student its kinda hard to meet everyone.

I'm not necessarily implying that having a solid sense of self or being 'older' reduces a person's need to have friends. I'm also not implying that all young adults (18 to 25 age range) have unformed identities, because many have a strong sense of self.

However, countless young adults do have identities that never quite took shape. I'm saying that the adult whose identity has not yet developed will still place the highest emphasis on one's peer group and circle of friends, just like many teens do.

Most teens are very into their peer groups in their search for their identities. The handful of young adults who have identities that have not fully formed are also deeply into their peer groups as they search for their identities.

I did not delve into the topic of personality types, but I feel that extroverted people of all ages have a greater need for friends than introverts from all age groups.

oh, then i did misunderstand your remarks when i wrote:

//"I'm not sure i even completely follow the notion, if i am understanding this article correctly, that having a sense of self reduces one's need to have friends, or their tolerance for lonliness. I'm not sure i'd agree."//

I think one can be insecure, at any age, actually, though. Maybe being insecure, is related to not understanding your "self identity", i don't know if that is what causes insecurity. It might be that person understands their self-identity as "less than" others, and that might cause that person to need more emotional support than another person, not sure, but, possibly.

I don't know if THAT is same thing as someone just wanting a friend in a new town, in a new school, though, and your article seems to imply, that it is same thing.

Or even for periods of time, a person might feel insecure, and need a lot of positive feedback, as result of this event or that life change, humans can go through various stages for a while here or there.

Not sure that is exact same thing as the normal urge of most humans to have friends, though.

Some ppl are insecure, lack confidence socially, even as adults,

some younger ppl do have much confidence,

and some ppl, for whatever reasons, might not want friends period. Loners can occur during teen years, too.

Not sure someone who has little desire for friends is actually more confident or more secure than those who do enjoy having friends,

but, maybe. maybe.

My first reply, on page one, was more to the tone of your post, which seemed to imply,

there is some lack, something wrong with ppl who want friends. I think it is normal for most humans to want friends, not all,

but most. Whether they are outgoing, or introverts (even most introverts have pals, and not all loners are introverts, either. To me, there is a difference between a loner, and an introvert. There can be some crossover, but, some loners are NOT introverts, just loners,

and most introverts do have pals).

i myself don't see wanting pals, especially pals who are also in nursing school, as a deficit of some kind, nor a "lack of self-identity".

I think it's normal for most humans to want friends. I really do!!!

I agree....and this is a generation of socil media of how many "friends" and "likes" you have and value self worth by how many "follow" them on twitter.....they place way too much value of being "liked" by complete strangers.

They need to find it from within themselves.

that might be true.

What *I* think of,

when i think of the joys of having a true friend,

is not the same thing as "being liked by strangers" though.

I do think it is normal for most humans to want a friend.

not all humans,

but,

most humans do want a friend. Especially in a new town, in a new school, it can make it easier to discuss over the day's events with someone who knows you well, who you respect, etc.

I don't think that indicates there is something wrong with the person, either.

Specializes in ICU.
oh, then i did misunderstand your remarks when i wrote:

//"I'm not sure i even completely follow the notion, if i am understanding this article correctly, that having a sense of self reduces one's need to have friends, or their tolerance for lonliness. I'm not sure i'd agree."//

I think one can be insecure, at any age, actually, though. Maybe being insecure, is related to not understanding your "self identity", i don't know if that is what causes insecurity. It might be that person understands their self-identity as "less than" others, and that might cause that person to need more emotional support than another person, not sure, but, possibly.

I don't know if THAT is same thing as someone just wanting a friend in a new town, in a new school, though, and your article seems to imply, that it is same thing.

Or even for periods of time, a person might feel insecure, and need a lot of positive feedback, as result of this event or that life change, humans can go through various stages for a while here or there.

Not sure that is exact same thing as the normal urge of most humans to have friends, though.

Some ppl are insecure, lack confidence socially, even as adults,

some younger ppl do have much confidence,

and some ppl, for whatever reasons, might not want friends period. Loners can occur during teen years, too.

Not sure someone who has little desire for friends is actually more confident or more secure than those who do enjoy having friends,

but, maybe. maybe.

My first reply, on page one, was more to the tone of your post, which seemed to imply,

there is some lack, something wrong with ppl who want friends. I think it is normal for most humans to want friends, not all,

but most. Whether they are outgoing, or introverts (even most introverts have pals, and not all loners are introverts, either. To me, there is a difference between a loner, and an introvert. There can be some crossover, but, some loners are NOT introverts, just loners,

and most introverts do have pals).

i myself don't see wanting pals, especially pals who are also in nursing school, as a deficit of some kind, nor a "lack of self-identity".

I think it's normal for most humans to want friends. I really do!!!

Erikson might say that someone who is intensely focused on finding a peer group, "fitting in," or defining themselves by or through new friendships well into their 20's or 30's had some difficulty in resolving the Identity vs. Role Confusion stage of their adolescence.

I would imagine they are mostly those whose sense of identity was marred by their adolescent friendships/social status - either by not having an opportunity to define themselves socially because of a lack of friendships in high school or by having their self-identity disturbed by popularity. Often times teens who achieve a high level of social status come through the other side with either guilt (feeling undeserving of the notoriety they achieved) or an unrealistic and inflated self-perception (from being accepted even when their actions or behaviors are socially unacceptable) or some combination of both.

I tend to run very quickly in the other direction away from folks my age who seem overly preoccupied with making friends. I'd rather not be the object of their unrequited identity formation. If that makes me a jerk, I'm okay with that.

Erikson might say that someone who is intensely focused on finding a peer group, "fitting in," or defining themselves by or through new friendships well into their 20's or 30's had some difficulty in resolving the Identity vs. Role Confusion stage of their adolescence.

I would imagine they are mostly those whose sense of identity was marred by their adolescent friendships/social status - either by not having an opportunity to define themselves socially because of a lack of friendships in high school or by having their self-identity disturbed by popularity. Often times teens who achieve a high level of social status come through the other side with either guilt (feeling undeserving of the notoriety they achieved) or an unrealistic and inflated self-perception (from being accepted even when their actions or behaviors are socially unacceptable) or some combination of both.

I tend to run very quickly in the other direction away from folks my age who seem overly preoccupied with making friends. I'd rather not be the object of their unrequited identity formation. If that makes me a jerk, I'm okay with that.

I don't see it this way, but you and Erickson might see someone interested in making friends as having some personality problem,

but,

i don't.

I could probably line up several famous leaders in psychiatry, who might wonder if loners are the maladjusted ones? But, i might view those types as simply loners, not 'marred'.

I don't equate wishing for a good friend in your new school, as "seeking status", (wow, i love a great friend, the depth of the joy there, has nothing to do with "status")

nor do i see wishing for a pal to talk over the amazing world of nursing school, as "a sign of guilt", nor a sign of "inflated self perception."

"intensely" interested? Who knows, if the person who posts online, is "intensely" interested in making friends? Who knows, if someone posts on a student nursing forum, that they state they haven't yet made friends, has a personality problem,

or,

is just looking for tips, to see if this is common with other student's experiences, etc. It's also not impossible, that they wrote a post on one day,

but, the post reflect only how they felt on that one day. who knows.

I do think, that if one moves to a new town, or attend a brand new school, that many ppl might wish for a pal. doesn't mean they are "marred". It might indicate their other friends are now far away, or,

won't 'get' nursing school discussions, the way another student nurse would.

I understand that.

I am kind of surprised anyone doesn't get that, and seem to view students new in school, or maybe new in that town, wishing for another student nurse as their friend,

are 'marred' or otherwise maladjusted.

fascinating.

some of the people on this thread, stating they think they would enjoy having another student nurse for a pal, are not "teens" either. Might be more of a camaraderie thing that they seek or wish for, to process the often odd experiences we encounter in nursing school,

and not a sign they are damaged in some way.

Nursing school can feel overwhelming at times, the urge to talk over the experiences (often, weird and foreign experiences) seems like it might be normal urge to me.

Oh my, my pals while in school, oh my, did we ever get laughing together sometimes, or helped each other gain perspective on this event or that event, lots of benefits.

but, who knows, maybe we were all just "marred" or something, ha ha!!

To any student nurses reading along,

i say,

if you want to have a another nursing student for a friend beside you while you are in nursing school,

go for it. Seems normal wish to me!!

Specializes in ICU.
I don't see it this way, but you and Erickson might see someone interested in making friends as having some personality problem,

but,

i don't.

I could probably line up several famous leaders in psychiatry, who might wonder if loners are the maladjusted ones? But, i might view those types as simply loners, not 'marred'.

I don't equate wishing for a good friend in your new school, as "seeking status", (wow, i love a great friend, the depth of the joy there, has nothing to do with "status")

nor do i see wishing for a pal to talk over the amazing world of nursing school, as "a sign of guilt", nor a sign of "inflated self perception."

"intensely" interested? Who knows, if the person who posts online, is "intensely" interested in making friends? Who knows, if someone posts on a student nursing forum, that they state they haven't yet made friends, has a personality problem,

or,

is just looking for tips, to see if this is common with other student's experiences, etc. It's also not impossible, that they wrote a post on one day,

but, the post reflect only how they felt on that one day. who knows.

I do think, that if one moves to a new town, or attend a brand new school, that many ppl might wish for a pal. doesn't mean they are "marred". It might indicate their other friends are now far away, or,

won't 'get' nursing school discussions, the way another student nurse would.

I understand that.

I am kind of surprised anyone doesn't get that, and seem to view students new in school, or maybe new in that town, wishing for another student nurse as their friend,

are 'marred' or otherwise maladjusted.

fascinating.

some of the people on this thread, stating they think they would enjoy having another student nurse for a pal, are not "teens" either. Might be more of a camaraderie thing that they seek or wish for, to process the often odd experiences we encounter in nursing school,

and not a sign they are damaged in some way.

Nursing school can feel overwhelming at times, the urge to talk over the experiences (often, weird and foreign experiences) seems like it might be normal urge to me.

Oh my, my pals while in school, oh my, did we ever get laughing together sometimes, or helped each other gain perspective on this event or that event, lots of benefits.

but, who knows, maybe we were all just "marred" or something, ha ha!!

To any student nurses reading along,

i say,

if you want to have a another nursing student for a friend beside you while you are in nursing school,

go for it. Seems normal wish to me!!

Take a step back.

Try and read the post again without pulling out specific words and assigning the worst defining characteristics of those words to yourself. Consider the overall message.

Try not to take it personally.....Because it isn't meant personally toward you or anyone.

Also, most people are maladjusted in one form or another. It isn't an insult. It's a reality.

I don't equate wishing for a good friend in your new school, as "seeking status", (wow, i love a great friend, the depth of the joy there, has nothing to do with "status")

nor do i see wishing for a pal to talk over the amazing world of nursing school, as "a sign of guilt", nor a sign of "inflated self perception."

You're reading into the article entirely too much, pulling stuff out of it that was never said, and making a mountain out of a molehill. No one has mentioned anything about guilt or inflated perception or seeking attention or many of the other things that you have quoted in your responses in this thread.

The basis of the article was simply saying that some students obsess over not making friends after their very first semester, and become discouraged. Which is true. However, just because you haven't made friends in nursing school after the very first semester, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. If you make friends in the nursing program, great. If not, so? You're there to get an education, graduate, and move on with life. If you make friends along the way, fantastic. If not, don't obsess about it. Just get along with your classmates, study with them if you like, work alongside them on projects, ect. but if you don't walk away with a group of new best friends after your first semester, life will go on.

You're reading into the article entirely too much, pulling stuff out of it that was never said, and making a mountain out of a molehill. No one has mentioned anything about guilt or inflated perception or seeking attention or many of the other things that you have quoted in your responses in this thread.

The basis of the article was simply saying that some students obsess over not making friends after their very first semester, and become discouraged. Which is true. However, just because you haven't made friends in nursing school after the very first semester, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. If you make friends in the nursing program, great. If not, so? You're there to get an education, graduate, and move on with life. If you make friends along the way, fantastic. If not, don't obsess about it. Just get along with your classmates, study with them if you like, work alongside them on projects, ect. but if you don't walk away with a group of new best friends after your first semester, life will go on.

oh, you took a quote where i am quoting another person, not the OP,

and putting HER words, "inflated perception" etc etc,

were the other person's exact words, (quoted in the reply alongside my words)

but, yes, i agree, the OP did not use those words,

the person whose remark i quoted did.

The OP does seem to be suggesting, though, that people who want a friend have a deficit of some kind, or a lack of "self identity". I disagree that is a fact. I think it is normal for many to most people who are new to a school,

or new to a town,

wish for a friend. I don't see it as some type of pathology.

also, like i said on page one, in relpy #4, in an indepth thoughtful reply,

i am not sure someone posting in a forum for student nurses that they have not yet made friends,

equates to "obsessing" on it. It's possible, the person posted how they felt on Tuesday, on that tuesday....might not even reflect any ongoing feeling. who knows.

but, the post the person wrote on a tuesday might not reflect the person has an "obsession", or a personality disorder of any type, or a lack of "self identity", nor an "inflated self perception", nor do i think this is evidence the person is somehow "marred", or not well developed, etc etc.

for real, to me,

the urge for a student nurse

to have a friend who is also another student nurse,

seems kinda normal, to me anyway.

Take a step back.

Try and read the post again without pulling out specific words and assigning the worst defining characteristics of those words to yourself. Consider the overall message.

Try not to take it personally.....Because it isn't meant personally toward you or anyone.

Also, most people are maladjusted in one form or another. It isn't an insult. It's a reality.

oh, i am not taking it personally,

nope, i am not the student who posted the article that the OP is discussing.

I am not even a student nurse! but, i was once.

I just simply disagree, or don't entirely agree,

with some of your remarks,

and some of the points being made by the OP, the overall message here, is one i think might be false. Like i said earlier, probably a hard thing to measure,

but, i disagree with "the overall message" that there is some lack or deficit in someone who does enjoy having a friend. Please don't take it personally that i don't agree with your post,

the "overall message" here doesn't make sense to me, i think it's a questionable premise, really. It's not an insult. I also don't think i am "applying the words to ME" either,(what?)

just dispassionately, logically, questioning if it is actually true,

that people who want a friend when they go to a new school,

have some kind of a deficit.

that's all. I really, actually do view the urge for a student nurse

to befriend someone else going through the same amazing program

as kind of a normal thing.

EDIT---not all people enjoy having a friend, nor wish for a new one when they get to a new town or new school,i know,

but, i think most humans do like to have a pal,

and probably most student nurses do appreciate having a student nurse pal, who understands what they are talking about more easily, cuz they are experiencing the similar things, too. It can be helpful to have someone to chuckle about things together, or egg each other on, or help each other study, lotsa bennies, imo.

Specializes in ICU.
oh, i am not taking it personally,

nope, i am not the student who posted the article that the OP is discussing.

I just simply disagree, or don't entirely agree,

with some of your remarks,

and some of the points being made by the OP, the overall message here, is one i think might be false. Like i said earlier, probably a hard thing to measure,

but, i disagree with "the overall message" that there is some lack or deficit in someone who does enjoy having a friend. Please don't take it personally that i don't agree with your post,

the "overall message" here doesn't make sense to me, i think it's a questionable premise, really. It's not an insult.

that's all. I really, actually do view the urge for a student nurse

to befriend someone else going through the same amazing program

as kind of a normal thing.

EDIT---not all people enjoy having a friend, nor wish for a new one when they get to a new town or new school,i know,

but, i think most humans do like to have a pal.

*chuckle*

Good Luck to ya, dear!