Why do so many of you hate working med/surg? - page 5
:spin: Hello everyone!:spin: Just curious--I have read SOOO many posts on this website and see that many nurses hate(d) working med/surg. Why exactly is it so terrible? I haven't even started... Read More
Mar 2, '07Never Worked Med Surge Floor Before. But I Hear And See What Goes On Out There At My Hospital. And I Know I Couldnt Stand It. I Just Don't,, Wait Let Me Correct Myself, I Know It's Not Safe To Be Stuck With 8-12 Pt's By Yourself, And As Soon As All The State Nursing Boards Realize That And Do Something About It, More People May Open Up To The Idea Of Medica/surgical Floor Nursing. It's A Shame Some Of The Best Nurses I Know Are Med/surg, But I Hear The Way They Get Ran Ragged For 8 To 12 Hrs Every Day. I Work Prn/part Time At A Small Rual Hospital In One Of The Local Counties In The Er, I Told Tham I Was A Er/icu Nurse Not A Medical Nurse. Well One Night They Pulled Me To The Medical Floor, And Assisgned Me 14 Friggen Pt's With 1 75yo Cna.... I Told The Nsg Sup. To Kiss My Tail And I Resigned On The Spot. It's A Shame Cause It Was A Sweet Er Gig.
Mar 2, '07Quote from BULLYDAWGRN... I Know It's Not Safe To Be Stuck With 8-12 Pt's By Yourself, And As Soon As All The State Nursing Boards Realize That And Do Something About It, More People May Open Up To The Idea Of Medica/surgical Floor Nursing...
Nah, the state boards are too busy with real problems, like abolishing the title "petnurse"
seriously, it's each nurse's responsibility to stand up for the 10 pt load insanity...
In AZ, one can refuse an assignment d/t perceived danger of the assignment...
just say no
Mar 2, '07Well Here In Back Water Mississippi Where Our Board Of Nursing Are More Concerned About Raising Cain About Pa's Coming To The State, And Making Sure People Who Apply For Thier Boards Don't Have Dui's, To Care About How Many Pt's You Get.....i Keep Hoping The Jacho Nazis Will Address This Issue.
Mar 2, '07Fabulously put. I'm a CNA, considering nursing, and did a clinical in Med-Surg, and knew I wouldn't like it, (the whiners, and the lack of comraderie). But, everyone has to find their place.
I like the way you articulated working in Med-Surg to a life guard at a busy pool. I felt like wait staff when I did a clinical, someone wanted the nurse to check the drip, get me a sandwich, where are records so I can leave, blah blah blah. Lol.
Mar 2, '07Why do I always hear you can't get any other job until you do med-surg for at least a year? Is this true? And if it is, is this carved in stone? I can think of many other types of nursing I would much rather do. Every job has its specific skills. Is med-surg the "mother" of all? And that's not a swear!
Mar 3, '07I personally decided against it, because where i work, it's the dumping ground. Nurse-pt. ratio is 1:7, acuity is rarely factored in that.
Mar 3, '07Quote from BULLYDAWGRNActually, it is easier just to ignore posts that one cannot read.Jjjoy- Just Take Your Time And Concentraite.
Excuse me while I clarify what Jjjoy tried to communicate politely and discreetly.
While one is free to write in whatever manner one sees fit, most posters wish to make points that will be read and understood. And to do that effectively, one reviews the manner in which others write - especially when it obeys the rules for proper , and punctuation - and attempts to fit in.
It is also polite (at least where I was brought up) to communicate appropriately. You will note that on this BB - that means using easy to read fonts, and appropriate spelling/grammar/capitalization/etc. It is like joining a conversation - one slips in and out politely, following the social mores.
Jjjoy is politely telling you how to make yourself better understood in this environment. You can choose to ignore it and freely do what you wish. But you will also find that many will ignore you because they prefer more readable posts. Not to mention that some may think it a bit rude.
Mar 3, '07Quote from Gromit-patients were two-to-a-room (and only one television -they would literally get into fights over the TV control -I'm talking about throwing food items at each other, or even trading punches and biting! )
Ha! this is when the experienced RN goes in and unplugs the TV. If they are going to act like 5 year olds, they will be treated as such. Amazing what grown adults will do.
Mar 3, '07Everyone seems to talk about how terribly hard and busy med/surg is but I tend to disagree. I worked med/surg before working in ED and the pace was so much more predictable. Yes you do have a lot of "tasks" like meds, drsg's, therapy, phone calls to make but a lot of the time you can plan your day around these "tasks". You know your tasks, you know your patients (if not from the day before from report), and if one of your patients becomes unstable you can transfer them out.
I never worked as hard as I work in ED on med/surg. On med/surg you know the list of dx you are dealing with, in ED you have to try and figure out what's wrong with the pt. In med/surg you can refuse report (lord knows you guys do often) because you are "too busy", "at dinner", "passing meds", and the list goes on; In ED pt's keep coming no matter how busy we already are. On med/surg you are required ongoing training like return demo of how to use the new "hoyer lift", and central line drsg changes, In ED you are required to take courses some times having to travel to take the 2-3 day course (TNCC, ACLS, ENPC, PALS, CEN).
I could go on and on but this post is getting long. Ask so many people on here and their specialty is the most difficult no matter what it is and they are the most overworked and under-appreciated dept in the hospital.
My point is I still think that med/surg is an easier transition from nursing school (yes it is still a transition with a learning curve), but not nearly as much as ICU, OB, ED, Peds, PICU, NICU, even Cardiology which are more specialized nursing.