what the heck are medical assistant schools doing ! - page 7

I'm an RN, in the ER. I know of 4 people who, in my opinion have been rooked into MA (medical assistant ) schools. Each on of these people have been told that , MA , can do everything an RN can do.... Read More

  1. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from nursingbeauty
    In fact I think some of the older rn's re jealous that us young bucks are learning things a whole lot quicker and catching on a whole lot faster then any of them ever did, dont be upset that an ma could fill your shoes faster and better after only a year of schooling
    :roll :chuckle
    That has to be the funniest thing I have heard today! HaHa....

    Seriously? You think you could fill an RNs shoes "faster and better"? Again, the quote of, "they do not know what they do not know" has never been more appropriate.

    Thanks for the good laugh....
    Last edit by cardiacRN2006 on Oct 8, '06
  2. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from asoldierswife05
    That is a very unfair statement to make. Foremost, you are exhibiting the attitude that mosts nurses are wary of in an MA to begin with...the attitude that you can do the nurse's job...which you are not properly equipped to do and if you believe you are then you need to be educated on the nurse's scope of practice. This does not mean you are unintelligent or not capable of performing selected nursing tasks, it simply means you do not have the appropriate training (meaning Nursing School and License) to perform the nurse's job. Therefore, I don't see why any nurse would be jealous.
    Unbelievable, isn't it??
  3. by   RNsRWe
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    :roll :chuckle
    That has to be the funniest thing I have heard today! HaHa....

    Seriously? You think you could fill an RNs shoes "faster and better"? Again, the quote of, "they do not know what they do not know" has never been more appropriate.

    Thanks for the good laugh....
    I was just thinking all that myself, just now

    Yep, I'm truly quaking at the idea of the "young bucks" filling my shoes "faster and better" after a year of MA schooling. Totally! In fact, I'm so jealous of how quick they learn as opposed to the dinosaur RNs, I'm ashamed to admit to my pathetic degree and licensure. Then again, when *I* was 17 I thought I knew a helluva lot, too

    I can leave the computer giggling now
  4. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    Unbelievable, isn't it??
    Unfortunately, no, to a point, it never fails that there's always someone that blindly thinks the problem is always an age-based jealously.
  5. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    Unfortunately, no, to a point, it never fails that there's always someone that blindly thinks the problem is always an age-based jealously.
    That is true. I hear many LPNs say the same about RNs, and in my eye, it is not true in that case, either. RNs have to learn more theory, advanced practice and have more responsibility. While I always believed that each member of health care is valued and offers their unique contribution and talent, it is unrealistic to think that a person with less training can necessarily outshine another. An unskilled eye can see various title perform similar skills, but it is the rationale and focus that is totally different, and that has to be addressed.
  6. by   TrudyRN
    I hope those of you who are disturbed by these schools lying and misrepresenting will join me in letting your state reps and senators know what's going on so they can legislate a stop to it.
  7. by   TrudyRN
    [quote=hogan4736]relax everyone...he's calling all of us monkeys (in essence) that are skill hounds...

    I give the same speech to my students each semester...Students, in clinicals, are soooo skill focused...I tell them that monkeys can be trained to start IVs and drop NGTs...the real essence of nursing is relating to, and understanding the needs of your patients...that is the real skill...if you have poor bedside manner, but are great at IVs, then you are a worthless (monkey) in my book...

    that's all the poster was saying...



    It is not anywhere true that monkeys can be trained to do all that we do. You must have been talking to my former supervisor, who believed that OR nurses could all be replaced by monkeys.
  8. by   AnnemRN
    This was discussed on an earlier thread and this website article was posted.
    www.fsmaonline.org/officenurse.htm





    The article makes it clear that a medical assistant legally can not refer to themselves as a " nurse."
    Last edit by AnnemRN on Oct 8, '06
  9. by   lauralassie
    young buck ha ha ha, ok. i can do front office , back office, middle office ,underneath the office, what ever office you want me to do. if you want to fill my shoes, come to work with me. i'll even orient you. then , when we get that code, open heart that is going bad, trauma or mi, i'll have you do the rapid transfuser, explain to me the dynamics of your critical patient . also, at 2 am, i want you to talk to dr. levy,(who, by the way will be able to tell if you'r a nurse who is bs'ing him and will be sure to let you know that your an idiot in no uncertain terms...and i can't blame him, he is responsible for that patients outcome) you'll need to explain to him why you started the levo, dopa, epi etc.. and be able to cooralate why you initated treatments according the the hemodynamic peramiters, abgs's , general patient assessment. hope your ready when he comes in to see what's up with the patient.. he's not going to be in good mood when he comes in at 2 am. when he wants to know what the ekg says, he won't mean , how did you set it up. he'll want to know if he heart is functioning well, if it's getting blood supply (do you know what to look for (no...not the rubbish at the top of the ekg that says, abnormal ekg !) whoops, overwhelming, well then let the people who are trained for the big guns do it. if i don't know an office, it may be stressful until i learn the routine, but , got it covered, no big deal. critical thinking is not something you can learn by skimming the surface of patient care. "oh , all of the above and more are what i expect of the nurses i train. think you can do it? i realize what i said sounds cocky, but when one of our loved ones is being cared for do you want the one that knows their job or one that saves the hospital money. when i do a serious job i expect serious action ! you have to be top of your game all of the time as a nurse. as nurses we have to be on top of our game to not let changes happen that will most importantly endanger our patients or endanger or jobs!
    Last edit by lauralassie on Oct 9, '06
  10. by   lauralassie
    Would love to hear from the RN who wants to get action going on this. Please write me on this forum and I will get back to you. We need organization on this matter !
    Last edit by lauralassie on Oct 8, '06
  11. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from lauralassie
    Young Buck Ha Ha Ha, Ok. I can do front office , back office, middle office ,underneath the office, what ever office you want me to do. If you want to fill my shoes, come to work with me. I'll even orient you. Then , when we get that code, open heart that is going bad, trauma or MI, I'll have you do the rapid transfuser, explain to me the dynamics of your critical patient . Also, at 2 am, I want you to talk to Dr. Levy,(who, by the way will be able to tell if you bs'ing him and will be sure to let you know that your an idiot in no uncertain terms...and I can't blame him, he is responsible for that patients outcome) You'll need to explain to him why you started the Levo, Dopa, Epi etc.. and be able to cooralate why you initated treatments according the the hemodynamic peramiters, ABGs's , general patient assessment. Hope your ready when he comes in to see what's up with the patient.. He's not going to be in good mood when he comes in at 2 am. When he wants to know what the EKG says, he won't mean , how did you set it up. He'll want to know if he heart is functioning well, if it's getting blood supply (do you know what to look for (no...not the rubbish at the top of the EKG that says, abnormal ekg !) Whoops, overwhelming, well then let the people who are trained for the BIG GUNS do it. If I don't know an office, it may be stressful until I learn the routine, but , got it covered, no big deal. Critical thinking is not something you can learn by skimming the surface of patient care. "Oh , all of the above and more are what I expect of the nurses I train. Think you can do it? I realize what I said sounds cocky, but when one of our loved ones is being cared for do you want the one that knows their job or one that saves the hospital money. When I do a serious job I EXPECT serious action ! You have to be top of your game all of the time as a nurse. As nurses we have to be on top of our game to not let changes happen that will most importantly endanger our patients or endanger or jobs!
    Well worded!
  12. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from lauralassie
    Young Buck Ha Ha Ha, Ok. I can do front office , back office, middle office ,underneath the office, what ever office you want me to do. If you want to fill my shoes, come to work with me. I'll even orient you. Then , when we get that code, open heart that is going bad, trauma or MI, I'll have you do the rapid transfuser, explain to me the dynamics of your critical patient . Also, at 2 am, I want you to talk to Dr. Levy,(who, by the way will be able to tell if you bs'ing him and will be sure to let you know that your an idiot in no uncertain terms...and I can't blame him, he is responsible for that patients outcome) You'll need to explain to him why you started the Levo, Dopa, Epi etc.. and be able to cooralate why you initated treatments according the the hemodynamic peramiters, ABGs's , general patient assessment. Hope your ready when he comes in to see what's up with the patient.. He's not going to be in good mood when he comes in at 2 am. When he wants to know what the EKG says, he won't mean , how did you set it up. He'll want to know if he heart is functioning well, if it's getting blood supply (do you know what to look for (no...not the rubbish at the top of the EKG that says, abnormal ekg !) Whoops, overwhelming, well then let the people who are trained for the BIG GUNS do it. If I don't know an office, it may be stressful until I learn the routine, but , got it covered, no big deal. Critical thinking is not something you can learn by skimming the surface of patient care. "Oh , all of the above and more are what I expect of the nurses I train. Think you can do it? I realize what I said sounds cocky, but when one of our loved ones is being cared for do you want the one that knows their job or one that saves the hospital money. When I do a serious job I EXPECT serious action ! You have to be top of your game all of the time as a nurse. As nurses we have to be on top of our game to not let changes happen that will most importantly endanger our patients or endanger or jobs!
    LOL! I love this post. Well done...
  13. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from AnnemRN
    This was discussed on an earlier thread and this website article was posted.
    www.fsmaonline.org/officenurse.htm





    The article makes it clear that a medical assistant legally can not refer to themselves as a " nurse."
    Thanks for posting that.

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