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Jun 14, 2004 10:16 AM

What can I do with my BSN that Assoc. RN's can't?


I just graduated with my BSN this spring. I'm working as a PCA2/Graduate Nurse at a local hospital until I take my boards... I am taking my HESI tomorrow at the college I graduated from. This is an 'exit' type of exam that we have to pass before taking our boards. I'm feeling down about not being able to pass and have this huge fear that I am not going to pass my boards!

Amidst my fear, I am questioning taking a role as an RN on floor nursing. It seems like most of the RN's on my floor have an associates degree, and I am questioning if I should be doing something different since I have my bachelor's? The pay is the same for an Assoc. or BSN, which doesn't make any sense to me. Just wondering what else is available that I might not be looking for, or what your opinions are!?

Another BSN student who just graduated as well was speaking with me, and said she wonders if the Assoc. degree RN's laugh thinking that we have wasted our time getting our BSN when we get the same pay/same responsibilities. Is this a big issue?

Thanks!
Miranda


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from hock1
Old Jun 14, 2004, 10:33 AM

Rest assured your degree is not wasted. The hospital I work at requires management to have BSN. They sent (or are currently sending) ADN managers back for their BSN. The pay difference for floor nursing is the BSN receives $0.50 and hour more than the ADN. Those are the big differences between ADN-RN and BSN-RN in my area.
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from ocankhe
Old Jun 14, 2004, 10:36 AM

It is only a big issue if you let it become one. As far as bedside nursing is concerned an RN is an RN and it doesn't matter how that particular RN was educated. However, you can do far more with your BSN as far as career choices and areas of further practise are concerned. More than half the jobs for RNs are not at the hospital bedside giving care, and many of those require a 4 year or more degrees.
Good luck in your boards.
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from Dixiedi
Old Jun 14, 2004, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by doodlebug914
I just graduated with my BSN this spring. I'm working as a PCA2/Graduate Nurse at a local hospital until I take my boards... I am taking my HESI tomorrow at the college I graduated from. This is an 'exit' type of exam that we have to pass before taking our boards. I'm feeling down about not being able to pass and have this huge fear that I am not going to pass my boards!

Amidst my fear, I am questioning taking a role as an RN on floor nursing. It seems like most of the RN's on my floor have an associates degree, and I am questioning if I should be doing something different since I have my bachelor's? The pay is the same for an Assoc. or BSN, which doesn't make any sense to me. Just wondering what else is available that I might not be looking for, or what your opinions are!?

Another BSN student who just graduated as well was speaking with me, and said she wonders if the Assoc. degree RN's laugh thinking that we have wasted our time getting our BSN when we get the same pay/same responsibilities. Is this a big issue?

Thanks!
Miranda
With a BSN you will have opportunities that are not available to the diploma and ASN RNs. However, you are a brand new nurse! You will have the same license, also void of specialized certificates, as the other RNs. You also lack experience!
The ANA is pushing for BSN entry level, but to date (and I've been a nurse for 30+ years, first hearing this as a student) it hasn't come to pass.
It's funny, I have a neice who got her BSN a couple years ago. She is still ticked off becasue she doesn't make more than the ADNs and that at her hospital LPNs are working right along side her. I routinely tell her "get over it" you chose to go for the BSN and you should understand that it affords you more oppotunities in nursing, it does not neccessarily make you a better nurse! She really doesn't like me very much!
As you mature as a nurse, you will see the opportunites you have (with increased salary) that the others do not.
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No. 4
Old Jun 14, 2004, 10:50 AM

NO associate's degree nurse will laugh at you for getting a BSN. We are too busy and mature for that. Where I work, no one knows for sure who has what degree and no one cares. You will find professionalism (and NON) in all levels of entry. You are in a good position, having your BSN. If you choose to go into management or teaching, you may be able where an ADN may not. and you are that much closer to completing a master's degree one day if you so choose. No one here or anywhere else will be laughing at the path you chose. Just be respectful of all you work with and you will be fine.
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from Quickbeam
Old Jun 14, 2004, 11:02 AM

Default BSN here...
I have a great job in community/public health that was only open to BSNs. One thing every nurse should do is look down the road to when they may not be physically able to do floor nursing. A BSN opens doors to other career tracks. I could do my current job from a wheelchair yet it is still nursing.
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No. 6
from Dixielee
Old Jun 14, 2004, 11:36 AM

I got my associate in nursing in 1973 when I was not wet behind the years. There were still a lot of diploma schools at that time and not many BSN programs. I worked in many areas of nursing including hospital education before returning to school for my BSN and completing it in 1993. I don't think the BSN changed the way I do anything, but I did enjoy returning to school. My program was geared to RN's and it was refreshing to be viewed as collegue and not as a "student" by the faculty. I think the BSN program presents more of a world view, at least mine did, where the AS programs focus on clinical issues. I would suggest any young person going into nursing to go for the BSN because there are more doors open outside of the hospital settings. I also think my AS program prepared me for anything I needed as a beginning nurse. I would recommend anyone who may be older, with family prehaps to go for the AS program. Why not get your degree and start making some money as soon as possible. There are so many bridge programs now that make it much easier to advance if that is the road you want to take. I agree with a previous poster who said there is no war between the degrees, at least I haven't seen it. Most folks don't know or care where you went to school or what kind of degree you have as long as you are a good nurse.
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No. 7
from nursemike
Old Jun 14, 2004, 11:39 AM

I'm in a 2+2 program--you get an ADN in 2 years, then go on for a BSN if you want to.
A lot of my class, including me, sees the ADN as a way to pay for the last two years. In my case, I can do what I want with just an ADN, but I'll probably go back for the BSN just to deepen my knowledge base. Plus, options are never a bad thing.
Ha, ha, sucker! J/K
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No. 8
Old Jun 14, 2004, 11:42 AM

It makes no difference as long as you don't want to apply for a management position, and who is to say that might not happen in the future? You open more doors. Our facility pays $1/hr extra for BSN. Even if it did not, as an older student I realized I could never acquire the experience so had to go for education in order to expand my practice.
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No. 9
Old Jun 14, 2004, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Dixiedi
With a BSN you will have opportunities that are not available to the diploma and ASN RNs.
You get to take the side of "A BSN is better than an ASN/ADN/Diploma/Regent's/Foreign trained/everyone else debate"

That's always fun....
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