vet techs using the term nurse - page 6

what do you guys think of the growing controversy of vet techs calling themselves nurses?... Read More

  1. by   SKM-NURSIEPOOH
    excellent post rn2b2005!

    cheers!
    moe
  2. by   Ortho_RN
    JLSL95... You are wasting your time defending your position... I am also a CVT who is now in my 3rd semester of nursing school.. But some people on here are so protective of this word and I don't think even making it a Veterinary Nurse would make them happy.. I agree with you 100%, but you don't put alot of effort in defending it, cause it doesn't do much good

    RN2b2005.. I couldn't have said it better myself...

    I think its kinda interesting how many CVT's, RVT's, and LVT's are going to human nursing school
    Last edit by nurs2b on Jan 3, '03
  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by JLSL95
    [B]Maybe the answer is to make the public more informed of what a CVT actually does, and to make the trained on the job person an assistant instead of calling them a tech. But, until we have people pulling for us or helping us, I think this is the reason that some want our title changed to Veterinary nurse. I hope this helped to shed some light on the subject.

    I applaud this statement. I agree with making the public aware of what we all do----whatever it is, that goes beyond our title. And yes, we would be glad to have you as an RN whatever age....nursing school is a real challenge, to be sure, and will upset your life a while but if that is what your dream is, go for it I say! Good luck.
  4. by   Q.
    Originally posted by JLSL95
    Well, thanks for clarifying that Suzy. We as CVT's though do the same things nurses do. You are obviously not going to understand it because you think of animals badly and having no feelings, etc. You obviously have some issues with them.

    I seriously suggest you go job shadow for a day or two. I wouldn't at your vet though, because like I said before it sounds as if he doesn't utilize his techs very well if you have never seen them or heard from them. Good luck with that. After you do that for a few days then come and tell me what we do isn't as important or as hard as an RN!
    I would suggest before you pass judgement on what a nurse is and does, you go to nursing school, sit for the NCLEX, and then you might have an idea what a nurse does. But you will only understand what a nurse is and does when you've been practicing as one for a couple years.

    Your assumption that I hate animals and think they have no feelings are completely way off base and asinine. So because I don't believe in handing off the title "nurse" that 2.7 million of us went to school for, I must hate animals? Not a very logical statement.

    No one said that vet techs aren't important or don't work hard. Being a nurse is not defined by working hard or being viewed as important, nor is it defined about how much school you had; and this is why I have a problem with other professions trying to take on the title "nurse." You define it by amount of schooling and how hard you work. That is not what makes a nurse. .

    Be proud of who you are, and that right now is a Vet Tech. There is nothing wrong with the title tech at all! Changing titles will not reflect on how much education you have or how much respect you will get. Educating the public about what you do and how you got there will accomplish that; not hanging on the coattails of another profession that already is trying to identify itself.
  5. by   SmilingBluEyes
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by nurs2b
    JLSL95... I think its kinda interesting how many CVT's, RVT's, and LVT's are going to human nursing school [/QUOTE

    I do too.
  6. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Originally posted by Susy K
    I would suggest before you pass judgement on what a nurse is and does, you go to nursing school, sit for the NCLEX, and then you might have an idea what a nurse does. But you will only understand what a nurse is and does when you've been practicing as one for a couple years.

    Your assumption that I hate animals and think they have no feelings are completely way off base and asinine. So because I don't believe in handing off the title "nurse" that 2.7 million of us went to school for, I must hate animals? Not a very logical statement.

    No one said that vet techs aren't important or don't work hard. Being a nurse is not defined by working hard or being viewed as important, nor is it defined about how much school you had; and this is why I have a problem with other professions trying to take on the title "nurse." You define it by amount of schooling and how hard you work. That is not what makes a nurse. .

    Be proud of who you are, and that right now is a Vet Tech. There is nothing wrong with the title tech at all! Changing titles will not reflect on how much education you have or how much respect you will get. Educating the public about what you do and how you got there will accomplish that; not hanging on the coattails of another profession that already is trying to identify itself.
    BRAVO! But methinks it's a waste of time/typing. So many call themselves nurses that should not, like the techs pointed out...it's almost a losing battle. But we can keep fighting the good fight, after all. Guess I lied when I said I was done at this thread...sorry.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Jan 3, '03
  7. by   JLSL95
    Thanks nurse2b. You are right though, I'm not going to defend it anymore. It is interesting how many are going to nursing school.
    Good luck to you!

    Thanks smilingblueyes, I have a lot of respect for you as a nurse. I have been lurking for months on the ob nurses forum, and you sound wonderful.

    Suzy, I have nothing else to say to you. You have some strong emotions about this, and I'm not trying to fight. I just wanted to state what we did was no different and I still feel that way. Nothing I say to you is going to change your view of us. So, I'm done. I'm not in the profession anymore anyway.
  8. by   Ortho_RN
    I think this whole arguement is POINTLESS!!! I don't think MOST Vet Techs (Cert) would want to be called nurses if things in our field was a lil more regulated.... Buts its not as RN2B2005 pointed out.... But Suzy I don't think by them wanting to be refereed to a VETERINARY NURSES is hanging on the precious coattail of the human nursing profession... And as you think that CVT's have no idea what a nurse does, you have no idea what a CVT truely does... And you never will... I just don't see why everyone can't just realize that CVT's nurse animals as RN's and LPN's nurse humans... Nothing to argue over
  9. by   Q.
    And by the way, this issue is something very near and dear to my heart; I love being a nurse and love the nursing profession and therefore have strong feelings when it comes to our identity and who we as nurses are. But having this passion does not equate to hating vet techs or hating and abusing animals. It equates to seeing our profession slowly and systematically get torn down, fighting battle after battle of misconceptions, stereotypes and impersonators, and then having to fight to maintain who we are and our place in a broken healthcare system. We are Nurses! And I will fight career-long to hold on to that. We are a unique profession with a unique body of knowledge with unique skills. We haven't had the greatest of abilities in demonstrating this, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It does, we just have a hard time articulating it.
  10. by   JLSL95
    You think you guys have to identify who you are?! You should be in our field! We have no regulation at all, and as you can see from these posts, MOST people have NO idea what we do! They think we play and pet animals all day. At least, people know what nurses do. I'm sure it is very frustrating what you are going through, but it is equally frustrating to have these same issues on anyone calling themselves a tech, and the majority of the public doesn't even know what a tech does! That has been a battle for a long time, and until we have regulation it won't get better.

    I agree with you nurs2b! Good point!
  11. by   Q.
    At least, people know what nurses do.
    Sadly, they don't. They really, really don't. Just read through some of the posts here, especially the ones in relation to public perception of nurses and even some of the longer threads on nursing theory. People think nurses follow doctor's orders and have little to no education. And that's the tip of the iceberg.

    JLS, I feel your pain, I do. We both work in professions that have a hard time defining who we are. But I maintain, as with the nursing profession, that educating the public about you is the first step.
  12. by   JLSL95
    Really? I can't believe that! I thought with a profession so old and so noble that people would know what you guys do! I'm sorry you as a professional are going through that! As for us, with no regulation, the public isn't going to know what we do. The only good things are the shows on Animal Planet like Emergency Vets. They show CVT's in action. But, I doubt many people watch it or connect it to their own vet hospital and it's workers.
    As for the nurse title, I would prefer it stayed CVT, but until they quit calling any lay person that, no one respects it or knows what it means. At some clinics you could be hired and given that title just because that is what they are going to train you to do. They don't do all of the same tasks but a lot of them, and are called that. They will even put tech on their nametags!! It's horrible! But, like I said I'm not in the profession anymore. Maybe someday they will have some regulation and it won't be a big deal!

    Good luck to you!
  13. by   Q.
    That is so bizarre how your problems mirror ours.

    Our profession is old and noble, yes, and as a result we enjoy the trust of John Q. Public, so you'd think respect, etc would follow. But it doesn't.

    We both have a long road ahead.

    Good luck to you as well.

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