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Hi all-- I was in the chat room last nite and talked to a few people and got some pretty good advice but was trying to still process what would be the best thing for me to do. I am a new grad since... Read More

  1. by   AmyRN1227
    Hi all!
    Well, I'm waiting to hear from my manager today and HR. So far, nothing. I've left voice mails for both of them. Should I be persistent or just chill until they decide to call me back. My stomach is in knots. Yesterday I felt like I came down with a case of the flu. I was nauseous, getting stomach cramps, and achy all over. I am wondering if I should even use this place as a reference. I've only been there six mos. and just recently started my orientation as a Team Leader, where I was doing RN duties.
    I'm not sure if I should go and get a doc's note to back me up. But I won't be going in today or tomorrow. I wish my manager would call me back so I could stop worrying. I have a neighbor who dropped of some applications for jobs where she is employed. She works at a state mental health facility. Don't know if I could handle that.....lol. What do you think?
    Hope everyone is doing good.
    Amy
  2. by   PhantomRN
    Amy,
    My first job out of school was at an area hospital and I only stayed there 6 WEEKS. I put that place down on my next application, not so much as a reference but so could I be honest. They did ask me why I left and I told them that the floor and I were not a good fit. That was all that was said.

    This was in the mid 90's when there was NO nursing shortage and they did not say a thing. With the times as they are now, you will not have to explain your self........and frankly I would not say anything bad about that employer.

    Yes, I know it reeks to high heaven.......hospitals get away with crummy behavior and the employEEs are the ones who are supposed to be nice and not say bad things about them.......but that is the way it is........and not just in nursing in all industries, all industries.

    You can look at this as an opportunity to really look at yourself and decide what you want to do with your career. Think about what you want...do you want to work with adults, kids, in the OR....there are many areas in nursing.

    I would not give up on med/surg because of that one experience, if that is an area of interest. Also, judging by your statements about pysch that area dont sound like your cup of tea.
  3. by   canoehead
    Amy, let them call YOU back. While you are waiting send in your resignation letter (with notice) and go to your doc to get a sick letter for the next two weeks.

    Don't be surprised if they don't do anything to make things better. They may not call back. But you went into nursing to make things better for people and you deserve to work somewhere that provides you with the resources to do your job.

    So move on without guilt. One bad job experience never put anyone out of the market, and an experienced manager will recognize your maturity in leaving. BUT you need to process the whole experience so you can relate it calmly and factually. So take care of your self.

    PS I know the best thing would be for the HR dept or manager to recognize your distress and apologize, and make some policy changes because you spoke out. That's probably not going to happen, but so long as you offer the information to them, the lack of action is all on them.

    I'm sending you a big old hug... [[[{{{(((Amy)))}}}]]] there.
  4. by   PhantomRN
    Oh sorry, Amy I did not answer your first question. I personally would not call them again. You have already made attempts to them and they have not called you back. It is not like you are going to keep this job, if you were I would say call.

    If they do not contact you prior to the day before you are due to go back to work I would call and ask what the deal is.

    It really gets down to how much notice you want to give....if any. They should have already figured that out.

    You say you are close to 6 months on the job...how close. When you put down your time on the app..just use months not actual dates.
  5. by   AmyRN1227
    Thanks Phantom and canoe!
    Well, the whole problem is I'm scheduled to work today and tomorrow! The Doctor that has been working with me called me back, said he's even called HR for me and left a voice mail. I am supposed to call off four hours in advance but when I left my voice mail to my manager, I told her I would not be coming in today or tomorrow. I don't want it to look like job abandonment.
    As far as using them on my resume, I know six mos is something as far as experience but if I leave without notice, aren't they more prone to put me down as a non-rehire for other employers?
  6. by   Brownms46
    Dear Amy,

    Sorry to hear that you haven't got any relief from your sx yet, and that you still don't have closure in this situation. I have a feeling...that the NM is probably getting her ducks in a row...by getting answers to what happened, and why...as she now has others asking questions also d/t this MD calling HR.

    I would follow the advice you have received ....especially the one stating get a sick slip for the next two weeks. Talk to your doc, and tell him exactly how this has affected you, and see what he is willing to do help. Tell him your sx...and I'm sure just as the EAP Dr you talked to took you seriously....your own MD will probably do so also.

    Don't sit by the phone waiting for it to ring....do something to lift your spirits. Take care of yourself!..
  7. by   AmyRN1227
    Thanks for the reply.
    I paged the Doc again from EAP and he said he couldn't believe that noone was calling me back. He told me to call my manager and inform her that I'm prepared to send in my resignation letter and that I may have to go see my doc due to stress and anxiety. I feel like a wimp! Who's going to hire me if I have that in my file?? I guess he said to cover me for the next two weeks (my notice). My MD is at lunch, I guess I will try to get in to see her. In the mean time, I had to call off today because I'm scheduled to work. I left messages with my boss and her boss, since they don't have a nursing house supervisor at the moment. What a joke. At this point, I don't care about doing the "RIGHT" thing with the notice if this is the way they are going to treat me. I guess if they give me a bad reference, they give me a bad reference. I can't stress out about it anymore. I could just not even put them down on my resume.....HELP. I'm stressin big time again. I can't believe the crap this place is putting me through.
    Thanks,
    Amy
  8. by   Brownms46
    Amy...please calm down......

    Now you have called in, and covered your behind. You have done ALL you can do about this situation at this point. It is time to let it go. You know you can't go back there...as you're stressing far too much right now. Please...make no more phone calls..except to your doctor. Do not think pass the point of talking to your MD.
    If you don't drink...and if you like bowling...so out and hit some pins, and get your frustrations out.... Take a pillow off the bed and just SCREAM your head off. (that way the neighbors won't call the cops).. I can see that you're so caring about others, and what others will think...you have worked yourself up into a frenzied state. You must let go now...and relax. Go rent a silly movie...and laugh! Walk if you can.....or even go do some exercises...great stress reliever. You have the day to yourself...at least I hope your children are school age. So enjoy your time off....and stop feeling gulity. You will have no problems getting another job. Geeze ...I have burned a couple of bridges in my day....and I haven't looked back either. Yes I can't go back to work for that facilitiy...but neither do EVER wish to. I'd rather go work at Walmart!!! But I had no problem getting work afterwards. So don't sweat the small stuff. This is not the end of your career...far from it.

    Enjoy the day....
  9. by   AmyRN1227
    Brownie---
    I am just so hurt that these people could care less about me! I guess I'll take it as a learning lesson. I just wanted to leave on a better note than this but I guess it just doesn't matter at this point. I can't clear the slate right now. Yes, my six yr old and 10 mos. old are home, so I can't do much for myself right now. My husband's home but doesn't know what else to tell me. I already have an interview set up for the 18th with another hospital and called another one to set something up.
    Does anyone know where I send this resignation letter to and when? Should I fax it to HR, or mail one to my manager?
    Thanks for all your input.
    Amy
  10. by   Brownms46
    (((((((((AMY)))))))))

    As you said...you can't change anything now...and you shouldn't! It is not your fault! You did nothing wrong! You reacted to the stress that has built up over time....period. If I were in your shoes right now I would do as Caneohead has suggested, give notice, (with 2 weeks sick time), covered by your doctor, and walk away!!

    We all know you're hurt...and I have been in your shoes before...not to the same extent maybe....

    I wasn't going to tell you about this....but maybe I should. One day while I was student...we were assigned to a unit, I later found out was doing saline abortions.

    Now let me tell you something about me. Very little scares me...and I have always prided myself on being able to handle tuff situations. But on this day...I lost it! We were supposed to just look around that day...and help out by answering call bells...you know get used to the unit. Well...I went into to answer a light, and the young woman asked for a bedpan. Little did I know...she was having an abortion! She started screaming...saying "It's coming outttttttt". I pulled back the covers to see a head coming out. I won't decribe what I saw....but suddenly...it seems like the room went away...and I could hear an Aide I knew....calling my name. But it seemed like I was in a tunnel....and she was a long way off from me. The next thing I knew someone had a hold of me. When I realized when I was ..and I was overcome with grief! I have never fainted in my entire life, and I have seen some gruelsome stuff in my time....but this was more than I could deal with. I had almost landed in the pts. bed! I looked around...and there was ANOTHER coming out!!! Again I heard someone in tunnel...saying catch it! I won't even go into what happened then...but I ended up running from the room...and into the bathroom...crying my eyes out! I wanted to quit school....RIGHT THEN and there!! I was totally in Shock!

    My fellow students took me home that day...and the next day the girl I rode with...came to my house after I told her I wasn't going back, and made me get dress and go back!

    Amy only real different here is that I didn't have to go back to that situation. And I also had supportive people around me who cared what happened to me. If I hadn't had that support I would NEVER have gone back again! Thank God they were there!

    But you don't have that support there...and you're the one on the line standing on your own. Everyone needs a support system...and yes you should be angry with those people there....but be more angry at the powers that be....that set you up for this situation to happen! So leave them in that miserable place and continue on in a more supportive setting...that will give you the chance to develop into a skilled, competent, and experienced nurse...without having to get battle scars to prove you're one of the ones who survived their poor tx.

    (((((((Relax Amy))))))) you will look back on this week in the future and smile...because you will make it! :kiss
    Last edit by Brownms46 on Mar 11, '02
  11. by   Brownms46
    OOh I forgot...If it were me, I would fax it in as soon as you have sick slip in hand to HR. Since your NM hasn't seen fit to call you back. You gave her an opportunity to respond...she hadn't ..so you to the next best thing!

  12. by   mustangsheba
    Amy: You were really screwed without a kiss. When they made you a team leader after two weeks, a bunch of lights should have gone off. Remember that in your next job - which you will be getting before too long. Be very clear in your mind what you have the skills to do and what you are comfortable doing. I think you responded well in the circumstances. Never mind that this person should have been on OB. With floors shutting down right and left, we're constantly getting inappropriate patients. Your supervisor or charge should have been by your side if your preceptor was not. Get some help to get through this and don't let it deter you. Let me add - home health is not where you want to be right now either. You are on your own out there and you need some good experience under your belt before you go there. I would spend my next few days looking for a different job. Best wishes.
  13. by   Mary Dover
    Amy- sounds like things are still kinda up and down for you.
    Realize this, if you never realize anything else in your life, you cannot change or control OTHER people. Do you know the "Serenity Prayer"? It goes something like:
    "God grant me the SERENITY to accept the things I cannot change,
    the COURAGE to change the things I can,
    and the WISDOM to know the difference".
    I felt like sharing that now in light of all you have been feeling over the past couple of days.
    In your most recent post, you indicated that it hurts that it seems these people could care less about you. Well, unfortunately, it is often a sad reality that the 'powers that be' often do seem not to care. And you may be only causing yourself further grief if you spend too much time waiting for them to show they care.
    YOU care. You care about what happened that day. You care about the patient to whom it happened. You care enough about yourself to realize what you must do at this point in your career. What I am trying to say Amy - is that it is time to stop worrying about them, and just take care of yourself now.
    This too shall pass. Take care.
    Mary

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