They Think I'm Working Christmas?? - page 3

Ok so where I work they apparently don't tell the staff what they're working Christmas because they don't want to hear the moaning...(?). Well that has annoyed me already, but I had calmed down... Read More

  1. by   clemmm78
    Quote from timdmb
    I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me
    That's kind of harsh. Taking that way of thinking, slavery is a good idea because usually the masters provide a roof over your head and some food.

    I think finding out what hours you are working five days before *any* day, let alone a holiday is beyond ridiculous. We are nurses, we are not slaves (thank goodness). And most of us have lives and other people depending on us. If i have to take one of my kids to a long awaited specialist appointment on a weekday, only to find out *5* days before that I have to work, that is just plain stupid. People have to plan and we can't plan if we don't have enough notice.

    That's why, in our contracts, we must know 6 weeks in advance, although some institutions get away with only 4.
  2. by   timdmb
    how is it all about me?... that makes no sense
  3. by   timdmb
    slave not so much... i can leave at any time if i dont like the way things are run... thats the beauty of america... however im pretty grateful i have an employer and my employer takes care of me as much as i take care of them
  4. by   mercyteapot
    Time to pull out your employee handbook. If any of these issues (lead time in scheduling, max hours worked within a 24 hour period or # of holidays worked per season) are addressed in there, you need look no further for back up.

    Your facility is being ridiculous. If it were me, the point I'd vocalize most strongly is patient safety. Eight hours rest (assuming you'd actually get a full 8 hours, which of course you won't once travel time, etc are factored in) after 2 12 hour shifts is simply inadequate. This isn't whining, it is lodging a legitimate concern. There's a difference, and if your facility can't handle hearing legitimate concerns, that speaks loud and clear about what they think of both their patients and their employees.
  5. by   timdmb
    mercy i agree qith you in the sense if you felt that youd be comprimising your patients... however i just dont feel you would, or maybe its id feel comfortable doing it... so i guess to each his own
  6. by   gitterbug
    This is nuts! I hope this NM does the fair thing and allows you off. I think I would be looking for a new position in the new year. Good luck.
  7. by   Abuelita
    This whole thing is patently unfair. I'm a staff scheduler who makes out each month's schedule six weeks in advance. There's no excuse for waiting until 3 days before a major holiday and then threatening to fire people for not wanting to work it, when they've probably made plans weeks ago.:angryfire

    If I were you, I'd get myself a new job for Christmas.
  8. by   jodyangel
    Yep I will be. I find the whole thing a blantant slap in my face. My employer obviously doesnt care about me. Otherwise the schedule would of been given to us long ago.
    I'm not whining. I just have a life besides work. And I plan on enjoying it.
  9. by   mercyteapot
    So there's another reason this whole policy is ridiculous. jodyangel, I doubt you're the only person who will be turning in their resignation over that. Because your NM doesn't have the guts to listen to ''whining'', she instead is going to lose good nurses. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant... :uhoh21:
  10. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from timdmb
    I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me

    Sigh.....how very constructive and helpful to this thread. Honestly, my family ranks way higher than giving back to my employer or worrying about giving others headaches.
  11. by   Katnip
    Quote from timdmb
    I think people whine entirely too much... if its your regularly scheduled hours you work... it'd be another scenario if it was forced overtime or something, call me crazy but without your employer you wouldnt have a home to go to and have family over for christmas... so missing out one year to give back to your employer and even more importantly your patients shouldnt be reason to cry.. and as far a finding out three days in advance we also get our schedules about 5 days before the next schedule is up due ot the fact that in the past people whined so much i think its a good thing... less whining means less of a headache for me
    The point is, the manager did not inform employees that they were scheduled to work a major holiday until 3 days before. People, no matter what industry should be given the courtesy to have a life and to be able to make plans ahead of time. Nurses are no different.

    Trying to force someone to work on a major holiday at the last minute is unfair.

    The NM will probably get more complaints, not less, for this little stunt and rightfully so.
  12. by   TrudyRN
    I admire your strength in standing up to these disrespectful, manipulative dimwits you presently work for.

    They tell you 3 days before the most major of major holidays that you are to work it.

    Your talents are being wasted, though. You need to become a Senator and/or union official and help lead your fellow nurses.

    Or maybe a DON. You would treat your staff right and they would be forever loyal to you.
  13. by   jodyangel
    I don't think there are any "rules" about how much time should be between shifts worked. I have worked 3-11pm and come back in at 6:45am..but it bout kills me lol. And sorry but it is differant getting that sleep in the dark night as oppossed to getting the same amt. of sleep in the day. You don't sleep the same and your body is not as rested. I know cause I've done the night shift since sept.
    The thing is, as I've looked over the schedule for the rest of the weekend program nurses, I'm the only one scheduled to come back in on christmas. So its not affecting anyone else the same as me. That in of itself doesnt seem right..

close