the term "animal nurse"

mamabear · Apr 20, 2004

Ok, I was a veterinary technician before I went to nursing school... So I do understand there side of the debate.. They DO nursing care, just because the animals can't speak doesn't mean that they don't need hollistic care. And Vet Techs are the surgical nurse, recovery room nurse, radiology tech, lab person, anestesialogist (sp).... They do all those things... If they want to come up with a title that has nurse in it, I say go for it.... Not like you will get VN and RN confused... But they are very hateful in the way they are discussing it..

I checked out the link at the beginning of this thread: boy, are they EVER hateful :angryfire And where do they get the idea that LPNs go to school for one year? :uhoh3: Oy.

LilyVictor · Apr 23, 2004

I never say I'm a nurse, after I saw one of the ladies at my church (who was very sweet, but was a nurse's aide), dispensing nursing and health advice with abandon. "Yes, I'm a nurse, and you should....." I certainly hope when I take my precious dog to the vet's that there is a nurse there to help them and watch over them. Anyway, I ALWAYS, when asked, just quietly say I have been an RN for 30 years...

SmilingBluEyes · Apr 23, 2004

Did you correct that lady at the church, seeing as what she is doing is ILLEGAL?

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Apr 23, 2004

I checked out the link at the beginning of this thread: boy, are they EVER hateful :angryfire And where do they get the idea that LPNs go to school for one year? Oy.

In some areas LPN programs are only 10 months.

braun5925 · Apr 23, 2004

WOW!! Who cares, they are obviously saying such disrespectful things due to some sort of personal insecurity issues. Just as the discrepency lies between, LPN, RN's, PA, MD's! We would all probably get a long a LOT better if we quit trying to compare. I know, easier said than done, but wow, I guess it's good advice to be happy where you are and be happy there are other's where they are. Vet nurse, vet tech...who cares?!?!

nursbee04 · Apr 23, 2004

But, I agree that BSN nurses are better prepared to take care of groups of people and society than ADN nurses therefore they are better prepared and more professional. I am certainly NOT knocking ADN programs. I was an ADN graduate. However, in my RN-BSN program we are learning about legislative issues in health care, how to change policies, what nurse managers and administrators do, what nursing reserach is about..none of that I learned in my ADN program. If I didn't go through the RN-BSN program, I would be lost when it comes to issues beyond the bedside care of my patient. If nurses want to be empowered to take control of their work, they need to know about the larger picture. Devils advocate...sure if you are an ADN graduate and you work for years and years..you'll eventually pick up on some political savvyness and maybe even be offered education on reserach and do your own reserach through your employer.

Um, I don't know where you went to school, but in my ADN program, we have classes in mngmt, we went to capital hill and talked with nursing lobbyists, we looked at different care delivery systems, discussed which works best, learned about management styles, budgets, etc. Yes, this was an ADN program. I think you are the one who should look at the bigger picture- as nurses we should value each other, not point out why BSN's are better than ADN's - and to imply that as an ADN graduate I don't know anything about political issues or issues beyond bedside nursing illustrates your closed mindedness better than I ever could. I'm sorry if I am too harsh but I get very tired of this argument. And the very fact that it popped up in a thread about vet techs just irritates me even more. Once again I apologize if I'm too harsh.

braun5925 · Apr 23, 2004

nursbee04 - that's exactly my point. I definitley think it's a waste of time and energy to play the "who's better" game. That's my point. If other people want to put the energy forth, so be it.

I'm just happy that we've got ADN's, RN and vet nurses/techs, NPs, CRNA's, etc.!

LilyVictor · Apr 23, 2004

Yes, I did correct her, and gave the proper advice to the person asking questions. I was just trying to keep my reply short.

SmilingBluEyes · Apr 23, 2004

thank you lily. Ya done good. I wish more of us would do the same.

LilyVictor · Apr 23, 2004

I, too, was an ADN graduate, then got my BSN. Frankly, I had more informative classes and nursing practice in my ADN school! When anybody asks my opinion in my hometown about which nursing school to go to, I always recommend the Diploma school, because they get more nursing practice and are more equipped upon graduation to at least know "which end is up" about patient care. Patient care is what is really important, not legislation. I do agree legislation is very important, but all of those high and might theories taught in BSN school just confused a lot of my fellow students. I have been told by more than one BSN grad----"I was trained to do management.....not empty bedpans." My reply is that you are there to do whatever the patient needs, within reason.

Sorry, SmilingBlueEyes, this one wasn't as short, but this "I'm better than you are stuff" just makes me mad!

mamabear · Apr 24, 2004

I, too, was an ADN graduate, then got my BSN. Frankly, I had more informative classes and nursing practice in my ADN school! When anybody asks my opinion in my hometown about which nursing school to go to, I always recommend the Diploma school, because they get more nursing practice and are more equipped upon graduation to at least know "which end is up" about patient care. Patient care is what is really important, not legislation. I do agree legislation is very important, but all of those high and might theories taught in BSN school just confused a lot of my fellow students. I have been told by more than one BSN grad----"I was trained to do management.....not empty bedpans." My reply is that you are there to do whatever the patient needs, within reason.
Sorry, SmilingBlueEyes, this one wasn't as short, but this "I'm better than you are stuff" just makes me mad!

I'm tired of it too: this whole "who's better" ADN/diploma/BSN debate has been done to death. I've been an RN since 1982, and it was old news back then :angryfire

As I've said a zillion times: you don't know nursing until you get out on the floor and DO IT! Regardless of your degree :nurse:

BabyChainus · Apr 24, 2004

Well, all I can say is a huge pffffftttt. :rolleyes:

Everybody in this forum and other forums for that matter is doing their very best at their own respective fields (No doubt about that!!!) We have our own UNIQUE roles in the nursing and medical field.( That's for sure.... ). The only common factor that we all have is that "WE CARE!!!".:) ALL of US are tending and delivering quality patient care for our respective clients.

What saddens me most is the fact that some people need to malign and belittle other professionals to put an emphasis on the issues of their own profession. The only best way to resolve the issues of Vet Techs re: their title and status is to address it to the people who can pass a bill and commence any change at all. ( The last time I checked....human nurses are not one of them:p )

The world is too big for all of us to have our own mark on it. Besides.....this issue is basically not worth our while. WHY???? Both profession is far far way different in a million ways. There is no focal connection or mode of comparison. :imbar Let's just all do our own thing in our own profession and make the world a little bit better to live in.

Have a nice day all!!!!