The Problem with Nursing

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A response to the Vanderbilt outlook.

The Vanderbilt case dear colleague is THE problem with nursing: Nursing is NOT a respected profession. In as much as people vote nursing at the most trusted, yeah right, it certainly is not the most respected. I would rather have their respect than their trust, let my family and loved ones trust me. A doctor, be as grumpy as he or she might, is well-respected. As most other professions are, but certainly not nursing.

Nursing provides a good source of living

But to what loss? For what cause? The reason people are able to be stirred to a higher cause is because there is a buy-in, they believe their input matters. The opposite is the case in nursing.

Change, you say? WHAT CHANGE? There is no change in nursing, at least not at bedside. You are treated as easily replaceable and your opinions do not always count. There is trepidation, there is fear. You always wonder what "mistakes" they might ferret out. You see, they have to burrow really deep!

What life is it that you gain no joy from what you do? Innovation is lacking or out rightly shot down because of a fear that it actually just might work. Asinine!

Apple? Apple is a success story because innovativeness is welcomed.

Starbucks? Employees are called partners and spirit is high.

Nursing? Better get to it and clean the toilets while you are at it.

It is what Florence Nightingale would have wanted...Ludicrous!

Why pick and choose? Why not wear starched white gowns with little cute white caps while we are at it (smiles). After all, "it is what Florence Nightingale would have wanted"! There is a vast difference between nursing and the business world. Perhaps it is because it is a field largely populated by women, I know not.

"Lean In"women, "sit at the table"~ Sheryl Sandberg

PS: These are strictly the views of the author. It is not the intent to disparage nursing itself, but shed a light on its problems. Healthy arguments or opposing views are welcomed.

Specializes in M/S, MICU, Hospice, Homecare.

Hope3456 hit the nail on the head. Just like the saying, "no one can love you until you love yourself first," it is the same for nursing. Others will not respect us until we can respect ourselves and each other. When patients, doctors and other persons see us disrespecting each other; how can we expect others to respect us as a profession? We need to change the way we behave and treat one another before we can expect others to respect us. jmho

BTW, at my hospital there is a great divide on how nurses are treated. On the ICU's the nurses are very respected by the MD's and most patients. You get those few that believe you are their personal servant and expect you to attend to their needs yesterday. "you only have two patients, what took you so long?" But for the most part ICU nurses are very well respected. Not so much on the GPU's, from what I understand. The nurses there are treated more like work hogs and like they are replaceable at any moment. Managers digging for something to write a nurse up for so that she can't transfer off the unit for a whole year. (My hospital policy) It is very sad how differently nurses are treated on the different units in the same facility.

Specializes in M/S, MICU, Hospice, Homecare.
I have been working in this field for more than 27 yrs. and as I continue to work in this field, it discusses me. This field is the only field that pushes folks out of a job. LVn's have to become Rn's, or they don't work; Assoc. RN's have to get their BSN or they don't work; now some jobs are asking for their Nurses to get their Masters. Now I must say this, back in the days RN's who had their BSN degree, were D.O.N or they were in Admin. positions, now they are staff Nurses on the floors, and those that have their Masters are blending in with them, what a joke..and they're not getting paid for the title they hold. I'm from Ga. and the amount of nurses that are coming out of school with their BSN degrees, makes you cry and we say more Nurses, why? Nobody's paying them and they're taking jobs from the LVNs to give to RN's (with BSN) to pass out meds...another joke. There's also lots of Nurses with their Masters, that are unemployed or that's working on the floor, who's making room for them. Working along sides of a Doc. they only need 1, Hospitals only need a few, who's telling these Nurses to go back to get their Master? This is why this field has become a joke..I've seen 27 years of foolishness. SMH

You are so correct! Nurses are not being paid more for getting a higher education and that is wrong. When the nursing profession decided to up the anti for the nursing profession by trying to make BSN entry level...they did not think this out very well. Shaking my head too!

Specializes in orthopedic/trauma, Informatics, diabetes.

I was a teacher who is now a nurse LOL. They did not value higher education when the money got thin.

As a new nurse, I have been for just a little more than a year. I work in a teaching hospital. It is fascinating to see how much the interns and 1st year residents rely on us.

I am an ADN nurse, I am getting my BSN right now and then I am done. I got a Masters to teach and it cost me my job. I value education, but not just for education's sake.

I agree whole heartedly that we are not respected by MD's and even each other at times. Once I was in an elevator at work and an ICU nurse was transporting a patient on a cardiac monitor. She said to me..."I bet you don't know what that reads." I looked at her and said....Come to L & D and read a fetal monitor for me, and I will read that one for you!" Of course, she could not. I respect all different specialties in nursing. We all chose them for our own personal reasons. Lets stick together!!

THIS!!!

And I'd like to point out IMO that teachers and nurses are the most admired for their willingness to care about people despite the abuse that everyone knows they get on a daily basis! So.. If you are a teacher who became a nurse, or a nurse who became a teacher... Double good karma, apparently. Ha ha!

(No, i didnt do research, this is gut reaction to someone saying that they are a teacher, etc. I always hear, "you must have some kind of patience to put up with everyone yelling at you every day." "Wow. I don't love people enough to take that kind of abuse." Etc.)

"despite all the abuse that goes on daily basis" But wouldnt this be an assumption?How do we know these people know of this, "abuse that goes on a daily basis"

Specializes in SICU.

Sweet post! Let em have it! Lol

Specializes in "Wound care - geriatric care.

Wow, I thought the stock market was manic depressive but nursing is too. For as long as I can remember we needed nurses, they are great, they are our brave soldier at the forefront of battle of the gravely ill, but we don't have enough of them. For years we been hearing "we need more nurses", let's create incentives, let's create more nursing schools, the nursing shortage is going to kills us, how are we to convince people to become these brave nurses? So it happened one day. Many flocked to nursing schools and like a miracle there were hundreds of thousands new grads but right then and there the story changed. New Grads quickly became aware there was something wrong as they were no longer wanted. The doors were shut, no one was there to greet them, no longer needed, need not apply, these nurses to be feel confused and betrayed. Why did they call us if they didn't need us? For anyone who actually have the nerve to become a RN they should be saluted. No one should beg to become a RN. Work as an RN is too hard as it is. How can we look down on being an RN, it baffles the mind, it's like kicking our mother out the door after she raised you with all her love. The medical establishment now trow away RN's and new grads, they can't get rid of them fast enough, in their manic mode they completely forgotten how hard it is to train and keep these RN's they now toss to the garbage. So they go like a mad man until the next depressive mood sets in, they we hear again "help, there is a nursing shortage and no one wants to be a nurse" and the bipolar cycle continues...

Specializes in LTC, Psych, M/S.

Marcos.....I do believe that is the most insightful post I have ever read here on Allnurses

What really gets to me is the disrespect that nurses have towards EACHOTHER!!!

THIS!!!

Specializes in CICU.

Interesting...

I agree with someone else who wrote that different areas of nursing are treated differently. The difference going from the floor to the unit has been my experience. Viva la difference! Of course, I wanted this, so I worked to transfer.

I've even noticed it amongst friends that are also nurses - "jokes" about being a real nurse (ICU or tele vs OR or LTC).

As for the challenge in the elevator re: reading a cardiac monitor - what a jerk!

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
Wow, I thought the stock market was manic depressive but nursing is too. For as long as I can remember we needed nurses, they are great, they are our brave soldier at the forefront of battle of the gravely ill, but we don't have enough of them. For years we been hearing "we need more nurses", let's create incentives, let's create more nursing schools, the nursing shortage is going to kills us, how are we to convince people to become these brave nurses? So it happened one day. Many flocked to nursing schools and like a miracle there were hundreds of thousands new grads but right then and there the story changed. New Grads quickly became aware there was something wrong as they were no longer wanted. The doors were shut, no one was there to greet them, no longer needed, need not apply, these nurses to be feel confused and betrayed. Why did they call us if they didn't need us? For anyone who actually have the nerve to become a RN they should be saluted. No one should beg to become a RN. Work as an RN is too hard as it is. How can we look down on being an RN, it baffles the mind, it's like kicking our mother out the door after she raised you with all her love. The medical establishment now trow away RN's and new grads, they can't get rid of them fast enough, in their manic mode they completely forgotten how hard it is to train and keep these RN's they now toss to the garbage. So they go like a mad man until the next depressive mood sets in, they we hear again "help, there is a nursing shortage and no one wants to be a nurse" and the bipolar cycle continues...

Wow....I myself am manic-depressive, and this post describes nursing as well as anything I've read in quite a while. Well said!

Seriously though, it's just as bad for older nurses---TPTB have discovered that all our experience makes us too expensive to hire, and that they can't work us into the ground like they can the new grads and younger nurses. So there's a lot of looking over our shoulders, waiting for the Grim Reaper to strike and throw us out of our jobs, 5-10 years before we're ready (or able) to retire. It happens more often than we want to believe....yes, ageism is alive and well in nursing.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Emergency, CEN.
"despite all the abuse that goes on daily basis" But wouldnt this be an assumption?How do we know these people know of this, "abuse that goes on a daily basis"

:) It's not researched, it's just what people say to me or to my best friends (3rd grade and 5th grade teachers) when we are talking about work.

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