Sitters, give 'em a break! - page 6

You want to know why you're complaining that the world is ending because you have to take your own vitals? Because your aides are sitting. You want to know why your aides are sitting? 'Cause your... Read More

  1. by   bethin
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Quite frankly, I have no problem that aides sit. Given the attitude, I am more than happy to do my own vitals...especially since it invariably takes more time/effort to get the aide to do his/her job than to do it myself.
    I'm presuming you don't mean all aides?

    We don't hire sitters where I work but even if we did you better believe they would not be getting breaks q2h. I went 10 hours before I realized I had to pee for the last 5! No one working on a floor gets breaks q2h.
  2. by   BrnEyedGirl
    wow,..what a thread,...a bit off subject here,.but do any of you have trouble getting a sitter because of policy? our hospital doesn't provide a sitter unless it is a suicide precaution,..anyone else must be told that the hospital will "try" to provide a sitter, but the pt will be responsible for an hourly charge for the service, which is almost never covered by pvt insurance, or medicare. this usually involves contacting a family member to okay this and sign a form, and quite often they won't! it is very frustrating to have a pt that is confused, pulling out iv's, taking off monitors, getting out of bed when they can't even stand alone,..etc. this is very frustrating, and invariably it is the family that refuses to sign for the sitter, that is the first to complain when they come in to find grandma in restraints or blood in grandpa's foley bag because he gave himself a turp last night while trying to walk to the bathroom leaving the bag on the bed! not sure what the answer is to this problem.
  3. by   jo272wv
    Not to have ruffled any feathers but my options to the RNs were not demands just choices. It is state law not Rns choice that hourly workers receive a 30 min lunch and two 15 min breaks for a total of one hour per shift. If you refuse a sitter proper break time, they can and do report you and the hospital to the labor board. My option to them was either a 10 min break every 2 hours or a 45 min break all at once. This was not a put down it was the law. My choice with the sitters if they except it is 10 min every two hours because it is easyer for me to give them that then all at once. I forgot to releive a sitter once and they were timmed and did not ask for one, my butt was sore from the chewing out I got the next time I worked when I was reported to the float pool supervisor.
  4. by   DusktilDawn
    Quote from jo272wv
    Not to have ruffled any feathers but my options to the RNs were not demands just choices. It is state law not Rns choice that hourly workers receive a 30 min lunch and two 15 min breaks for a total of one hour per shift. If you refuse a sitter proper break time, they can and do report you and the hospital to the labor board. My option to them was either a 10 min break every 2 hours or a 45 min break all at once. This was not a put down it was the law. My choice with the sitters if they except it is 10 min every two hours because it is easyer for me to give them that then all at once. I forgot to releive a sitter once and they were timmed and did not ask for one, my butt was sore from the chewing out I got the next time I worked when I was reported to the float pool supervisor.
    Frankly I consider it the employer's responsibility to ensure staff get breaks. What a lot of RNs are frustrated with concerning this topic is that DESPITE state and labor laws THEY ARE NOT GETTING THEIR BREAKS, YET ARE EXPECTED TO COVER EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIRS. And yes pretty much everybody within a hospital gets their breaks (and usually then some) and leaves on time EXCEPT the nursing staff. Heaven forbid anyone BUT a nurse doesn't get a break. Interesting how the state or labor boards do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this. I guess even the state and labor boards consider nurses as having less rights than any other employee. This is what nurses are frustrated about concerning this topic.

    For each sitter I have on my unit, that will be 1 hour of extra work for the nursing staff so that the sitter can be relieved. That is the reality. Whether it is housekeeping, dietary, NAs, unit clerk, supervisors for the different departments, etc, whenever anyone is not there to do THEIR job it becomes the nurses job. Whatever is not in anyone else's job descriptions suddenly by default becomes the nurses job.

    I've worked with many exceptional sitters who were great with the patients and more than willing to work with me to accomodate THEIR breaks. I've also dealt with others who have reported me to the supervisor for not immediately relieveing them for break when they DEMANDED it when I was in the middle of report at shift change and REFUSED to wait to see what accomadation could be made and some actually abandon their patient because they wanted THEIR break at THEIR convenience. Guess what, the supervisor was on my side. My priority is first and foremost to the patients, not relieving others for break. Relief for breaks should be our employer's responsiblity, not dumped on the nursing staff.
  5. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from jo272wv
    It is state law not Rns choice that hourly workers receive a 30 min lunch and two 15 min breaks for a total of one hour per shift.

    Listen. If I can't even relieve myself for a break, I can give a rat's patootie what the state law says about your breaks. Like it or not, it IS my choice when/if to relieve you. I will not ever choose your break over the health and safety of my pts. Sorry. I'd love to see someone report that! I'd love to breakdown my day and list all the things that I still needed to get done while someone is again demanding another break. Hmmm, titrating up on levophed, or relieving the sitter for his 4th break.....hmmm.
  6. by   vamedic4
    Quote from Tweety
    No one said it was easy, and I certainly couldn't do it. I'd rather be overwhelmed with work than sit. I would go insane.

    You still aren't getting 10 minute breaks q2h from me. :chuckle
    This is true, and truthfully unless you're incontinent of bowel or urine you don't NEED a break q2 hours. I was simply saying that I would rather do just about anything than sit with a patient for 12 hours...ugh.
  7. by   vamedic4
    Quote from motorcycle mama
    Vamedic, if you don't like sitting why don't you do something else like CNA? Is someone twisting your arm and pressing you in that chair?
    There HAS to be someone in with the patient...sometimes that's ME. I have no problem changing, turning, bathing...whatever the patient needs...I was just saying that it's hard to do all night long and not fall asleep.
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Nov 25, '06 : Reason: inflammatory post. Please see TOS.
  8. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from DusktilDawn
    Frankly I consider it the employer's responsibility to ensure staff get breaks. What a lot of RNs are frustrated with concerning this topic is that DESPITE state and labor laws THEY ARE NOT GETTING THEIR BREAKS, YET ARE EXPECTED TO COVER EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIRS. And yes pretty much everybody within a hospital gets their breaks (and usually then some) and leaves on time EXCEPT the nursing staff. Heaven forbid anyone BUT a nurse doesn't get a break. Interesting how the state or labor boards do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this. I guess even the state and labor boards consider nurses as having less rights than any other employee. This is what nurses are frustrated about concerning this topic.

    For each sitter I have on my unit, that will be 1 hour of extra work for the nursing staff so that the sitter can be relieved. That is the reality. Whether it is housekeeping, dietary, NAs, unit clerk, supervisors for the different departments, etc, whenever anyone is not there to do THEIR job it becomes the nurses job. Whatever is not in anyone else's job descriptions suddenly by default becomes the nurses job.

    I've worked with many exceptional sitters who were great with the patients and more than willing to work with me to accomodate THEIR breaks. I've also dealt with others who have reported me to the supervisor for not immediately relieveing them for break when they DEMANDED it when I was in the middle of report at shift change and REFUSED to wait to see what accomadation could be made and some actually abandon their patient because they wanted THEIR break at THEIR convenience. Guess what, the supervisor was on my side. My priority is first and foremost to the patients, not relieving others for break. Relief for breaks should be our employer's responsiblity, not dumped on the nursing staff.
  9. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    When I did work as a sitter, back in the day, I often had 1:1 pts who required contstant intervention. I was busy all noc and exhausted after "sitting" w/ these pts.
    Frankly, I did not know enough back then to even know if the pts were undermedicated, or if the nurses could have done anything to help the pts chill out. I just knew that some of these pts were more work for me than being CNA on med/surg was.

    When I did have a pt who didn't need much care, I was grateful for the paid study time!
  10. by   nursesaideBen
    I work on a medical floor as an aide on night shift sometimes we get pulled to CCU to do one on one with a patient on suicide precautions, I truly hate it although once they go to sleep (if they go to sleep) it's a good chance to do homework in order to stay awake. Luckily the nurses have always been really good to provide stretch breaks when needed, it is a tough job just sitting and I HATE doing one on ones but I am AGAINST q2hr breaks, it would just be too hard on the nurses. Besides when I work the floor I NEVER get a q2hr break and rarely get the chance to go to the restroom when I want to and I'm just CNA the nurses are even more busier than me. It's not too pleasant sitting with patients when you don't want to but you just have to suck it up and keep going. In a perfect world everyone would get q2hr breaks but that's not going to happen anytime soon lol :icon_roll
  11. by   miko014
    I had to do my share of sitting when I was a tech, and I hated it! But I have to say, I NEVER got q2h breaks, and I never needed them. If you need to stretch, walk around the room. Stand up and touch your toes or something. Do some jumping jacks if the pt's asleep. There's no rule that says sitters must SIT in a chair at all times. If you need to use the bathroom, tell someone. If you want lunch, tell them what time you want to go ahead of time. I would always say when I first talked with the RN, "I'd like to try to go to lunch around x:00 if that would be okay." There was only one time when the RN said that wouldn't work, and she asked if I would go half an hour later. That way we both knew ahead of time what to expect. It's a lot easier for the RNs/techs to relieve you if you tell them what you want. You may not always get it, but I have never had a sitter complain to/about me. Just a thought. Communication helps everyone!
  12. by   hikernurse
    Why is it RN's who are relieving sitters? I've done my share of sitting and found I could often get some good homework done while the pt slept--of course this wasn't always the case There were plenty of days I didn't get a meal break because the floor was too busy, but when I did it was always another tech who came in and sat. I would just make sure I brought some food in with me (or asked for an extra tray) or grabbed a quick bite when I'd go to the bathroom. Besides, if I punched a "no lunch" then I'd earn a little extra money :-)

    I've never had a nurse offer nor ever think to ask one. Besides, they're running around so fast trying to get everything done, I don't think I could have caught one, anyhow
  13. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Originally Posted by DusktilDawn
    Frankly I consider it the employer's responsibility to ensure staff get breaks. What a lot of RNs are frustrated with concerning this topic is that DESPITE state and labor laws THEY ARE NOT GETTING THEIR BREAKS, YET ARE EXPECTED TO COVER EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIRS. And yes pretty much everybody within a hospital gets their breaks (and usually then some) and leaves on time EXCEPT the nursing staff. Heaven forbid anyone BUT a nurse doesn't get a break. Interesting how the state or labor boards do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this. I guess even the state and labor boards consider nurses as having less rights than any other employee. This is what nurses are frustrated about concerning this topic.


    :yeahthat: !!!!!!

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