Hello. I'm a second term nursing student, and I am truly upset.
I don't understand how a hospital can layoff or turn down applicants for nursing jobs and then bring in nurses from other countries who have never been trained in the United States to be nurses!!!
All countries are different and the code of nursing seems to change w/the country. Many are not even held to the same standard of nursing that we in America are held to, so how in the world can they legitimately be nurses here in the United States? Don't they even have to take a test?
Please, someone clarify this for me, and let me know if I'm the only one upset by this. Will this change the standard of nursing that has been set in America?
I come from the auto industry and I can see how outsourcing (sending work overseas) is ruining our country, i.e., shoddy work, less American jobs, etc. So won't our citizens health be compromised by bringing foreign nurses here (reverse out sourcing)?
Mar 11, '09
I've been calling it "insourcing."
And it's time for it to end.
Our nation's health - especially its' economic health- is put at risk by insourcing. Only health care corp CEOs and shareholders benefit.
I have also worked in the auto and manufacturing industries.
I just posted about this type of situation in another thread- here is the post-
Imo, there is no nursing shortage in the US. US employers do not want to pay nurses better, improve working conditions, or assign reasonable nurse to pt ratios. They do not want to treat us as professionals, respect us or deal with us, so they look for nurses elsewhere.
This can be compared to the auto industry and other US manufacturing-
There is no shortage of auto or factory workers- quite the opposite- but US companies moved their operations overseas and to Mexico in search of cheaper workers.
US hospitals can't be moved out of the country, so instead, nurses are brought in from other countries.
This way, both the manufacturing and health care industries spend less money on employee wages, and keep far more $$ for their own executives and shareholders.
When a foreign nurse is sponsered to come to the US, they usually have to sign a contract which states that if they quit their job within so many years they must pay the hospital tens of thousands of dollars. Employers have them over a barrel, so the sponsered nurse is under a lot of pressure to put up with very poor working conditions and impossible work loads.
If there is a surplus of nurses in the US, nurses must compete for jobs, instead of employers competing for nurses- this is what employers want.
Last edit by Valerie Salva on Mar 11, '09
Mar 11, '09
by oversaturating the market with rn's, it weakens the wages, and creates competition among job applicants. this drives down wages and encourages people to work under less than safe working conditions. if there is an unlimited supply of oversea rn's, this will continue. double the supply of nurses, then see what happens under a supply and demand system.
here is a statement from hrsa's website:in addition to graduates from u.s. nursing programs, the nsm assumes net immigration of 3,500 rns per year from foreign countries.
here is a quote from the professional journal of nursing:
[color=#808080]often, nurse migrants are placed in vulnerable, inequitable work roles, and employing nurse migrants fails to address basic causes of nurse shortages in developed countries, such as dissatisfaction with work conditions and decreased funding for academic settings. ethical concerns in nurse migration
journal of professional nursing
, volume 22, issue 4, pages 226-235
b. mcelmurry, k. solheim, r. kishi, m. coffia, w. woith, p. janepanish
the practice of hiring foreign nurses to address the crisis may be beneficial in the short term but may worsen the situation in the long term. foreign nurses willing to work for less pay and benefits falsely lower wages below what they would be in a fair market. driving down nursing wages will result in nurses leaving the profession to work in other occupations.http://citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2...hcares-future/
ana maintains that health care providers should not look overseas for nurses when the real problem is that the u.s. health care industry has failed to maintain a work environment that is conducive to safe, quality nursing practice and that retains experienced american nurses in patient care. 2003 online journal of issues in nursing
article published november 10, 2003
i too, feel america is a melting pot of diversity. i welcome people from different countries and realize that they have the goal that many of us have: a better life for ourselves and family. but in economic times such as we have now, it's time to look after ourselves first.
Last edit by Neveranurseagain on Mar 11, '09