Really, really surprised...........

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..........by the increasing number of new grads/almost new grads who openly express a desire to take a job and undergo orientation, all the while planning to leave that position shortly after orientation. It's seemingly all about the short-term need for a paycheck, regardless of the impact on anyone else. No doubt, there have always been those who have no problem deceiving an employer, but I don't think they used to be so open about it.

I do realize that the days of benevolent employers are long over but it just doesn't seem right to knowingly short-change an employer. I'm starting to see that there are many components to the reality that employers are reluctant to hire new grads.

Do you foresee a time when you have learned all you can? :)

No, but sometimes you've gotten the best out of your current situation and it's time to move on to another place where you can learn new things.

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i am a new grad. i recently posted something about how i can not find a job. it was said to me many time beggers can't be choosers.

however at this time ( a month after being licensed, not one call back yet!) i am only applying facilities i can see myself long term. why would i want to take a position in a place i want to leave, as soon as something comes along better? no, i want somewhere i can grow! i know i will hopefully start on a med/surg floor and eventually work my way to where i want to be SICU, or ED. but as a faithfull emplyee i want to be with one company for years to come!

i don't want to job hop! but hey when those student loan payments start rolling in, i may have to take whatever i can find! lucky enough i have a very suportive husband that is in no big rush for me to get working, however i run the family financials and this job hunt will only last so long! to many student loans and no job = disaster waiting to happen!

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So you are using one example from another thread as evidence of this so called problem? I am sorry, but I'd hardly call that pervasive.

and as I do recall, many advised not to take the position only to up and leave a few short months later. Even so, if she needs to work to bank some bucks to save for baby, well then, she has every right to make that choice. Sucks for the employer, but they'll find another nurse to take her place no doubt.

It will suck for the employer and they will find another nurse to take her place. And I wouldn't be surprised if it is NOT a nw grad.

The issue of bailing during or right after orientation is pervasive enough that my former employer now only takes 20 new grads a year and requires a 3 year commitment from them, regardless for the department.

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Specializes in L&D/Maternity nursing.

Oh I am not suggesting that employers don't have a right to protect themselves and give new nurses the ultimatum with a contract. I'd never sign one though though. You just never know what can happen during that time that would necessitate leaving the job....and it might have absolutely nothing to do with finding another, or "better" position.

bottom line, you can only look out for your own best interest. It is you who matters in the end.

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Specializes in SICU.

I dont see what the big deal is.

As a human being i have to eat/have shelter/clothing.

Im not a nursing 'saint' who will wait months even years for the perfect job to come up because i don't want to offend the employer and leave after i find greener pastures.

I took a job in a specialty i have NO intention of sticking in. as soon as something better comes along in my field of interest, you better believe i'll be packing my bags!!!!

I call it:

LIFE.......

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Specializes in geriatrics.

The employer/ employee relationship is a two way street. I don't mind doing more, but I ask not to be taken advantage of. We all have limits. I am coming to the one year mark, and I was close to burn out last month....until I said loud and clear, "no more!"

Covering everyone's sick and vacation time, calls at home....get out of here. Yes, I value my work, but my life comes first. No more picking up extra shifts every month, missed breaks, relentless calls. Staffing is not my problem. Since I made this known, I am happier. It's scenarios such as this that cause new grads and seasoned nurses to search elsewhere.

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..........by the increasing number of new grads/almost new grads who openly express a desire to take a job and undergo orientation, all the while planning to leave that position shortly after orientation. It's seemingly all about the short-term need for a paycheck, regardless of the impact on anyone else. No doubt, there have always been those who have no problem deceiving an employer, but I don't think they used to be so open about it.

I do realize that the days of benevolent employers are long over but it just doesn't seem right to knowingly short-change an employer. I'm starting to see that there are many components to the reality that employers are reluctant to hire new grads.

An employer will hire you if they need you now knowing that the company is about to go under in a few months. That is reality. I saw this MANY MANY times in palces i have worked at. (not nursing, never worked as a nurse in a place that closed). People left full time jobs for another full time job they thought would be long term. The employer and other employees knew it wouldn't be.

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..........by the increasing number of new grads/almost new grads who openly express a desire to take a job and undergo orientation, all the while planning to leave that position shortly after orientation. It's seemingly all about the short-term need for a paycheck, regardless of the impact on anyone else. No doubt, there have always been those who have no problem deceiving an employer, but I don't think they used to be so open about it.

I do realize that the days of benevolent employers are long over but it just doesn't seem right to knowingly short-change an employer. I'm starting to see that there are many components to the reality that employers are reluctant to hire new grads.

Thank-you for saying what I have been thinking for the last year. I am shocked at the new grads I have interviewed and inherited. Interrogate them re: why did you sign for a treatment when the Vagisil never even opened (lied, then admitted, then only concerned cuz leagving to work in hospital "Will I lose my license?" never once addressed the fact the patient never GOT the treatment (well, she's very mean to me anyway, and tomorrow is my last day,so...".

Integrity? Truthfulness? I heretofor haven't encountered such sleazy, openly LYING, falsification of documents and a host of other things, that the last 5 new grads taught me. Shocking. But...it's ok...cuz they are going to work elsewhere.....in a hospital...God help them all. (the patients I mean).

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There is this wierdness about nurisng and jobs. I think of it as a kind of brainwashing cultish thought process.

As a second career nurse, I see this pervasive idea out there that someone must be doomed to poor treatment in the workplace. In fact it's almost as if one must be actually prove themselves as "deserving of poor treatment" in order to be accepted at times in nursing. Strange but true.

All this about orientation, how "special". No it's not special. I think it would be a good thing for nurses in general to look at the outside world. EVERY profession that requires an exclusive skillset will train it's newbies. I have a nephew that is entering the field of nuclear engineering. He is receiving most likely more intense and more expensive training in his first job than a new nurse can hope to get these days. As he progresses in his career, he will very likey change employers. This is not a shock folks. In my past career I worked for 5 different employers, was laid off twice as well as had my own business for 10 years.

Nursing employers are one of the, if not the most ridiculously FOS employer groups out there.

Please do a little self education on what working is about before you even venture out there for your first job out of college for your own sake - and, get a little pride in self, please.

Yes even fast food places and retail jobs have to train employees. yes i know it doesn't cost as much as training a new nurse but i bet the turnover is A LOT higher.................It is the cost of running a business.

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And there are new grads who do that? To what benefit? Until this thread, I've never ever heard of new grads who take a job with the intention of quitting weeks later. I still am skeptical that this is such a pervasive problem.

New grad RN's take jobs all the time in LTC, quit the second they get a hospital offer, no hesitation, and don't seem tocare about a reccomendation, in fact, most don't even put down that they worked in LTC. Especially if they get an RN intern position in a hospital

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The employer/ employee relationship is a two way street. I don't mind doing more, but I ask not to be taken advantage of. We all have limits. I am coming to the one year mark, and I was close to burn out last month....until I said loud and clear, "no more!"

Covering everyone's sick and vacation time, calls at home....get out of here. Yes, I value my work, but my life comes first. No more picking up extra shifts every month, missed breaks, relentless calls. Staffing is not my problem. Since I made this known, I am happier. It's scenarios such as this that cause new grads and seasoned nurses to search elsewhere.

Thank-you, I will no longer let an employer exploit me, then attack me. Learned my lesson. RIght from the get go, gonna set my standards of how I WILL be treated.

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