Pulmonary Toilet? Huh??? - page 2
Has anyone ever heard this term used? I had never heard it before lecture today and I am flabbergasted! Any explanation and if anyone knows where this term comes from would be greatly appreciated.... Read More
Mar 21, '07One of my favorite old time medical cartoons had a picture of three doors. The first door had a universal male sign, and the words, "Men's toilet". The second door had a universal female sign and the words, "Women's toilet". The third door had a picture of a pair of lungs and the words, "Pulmonary toilet".
Mar 21, '07great answer here:
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roughly, it involves removing excess fluids and mucus from your lungs or otherwise trying to make your airways more open. you can pound on the chest (yes they really do this in the hospital) which loosens mucus or you can do something called "incentive spirometry" which is kind of a lung exercise. you breathe into a device with a ball that bounces up when you blow. the object is to blow hard enough that the ball bounces higher. this is supposed to keep your airways open (by making you breathe forcefully), thus preventing something called atelectasis (a collapsed lung). pulmonary toilet is indicated for patients who are receiving artificial respiration (on a ventilator) or for surgery or other bedridden patients who may have breathing complications from lying in bed for prolonged periods. i have heard that incentive spirometry will prevent pneumonia but since that is caused by bacteria, i'm not sure that is true.
pulmonary toilet involves several means to "empty" or "flush" lungs that are filled with mucous or fluids.
a. nebulizer treaments: to dilate airways and stimulate cough reflex
b. incentive spirometer use
c.chest physical therapy (chest pt) involving vibration and
percussion/clapping --mannually or using percusser device
i always performed manual chest pt to oldie tune of "tea for two" ---
just seemed to have the right cadence
d. turning, deep breathing then coughing, especially staged coughing
staged coughing = series of deep breaths, then one little cough,
next cough bigger, then big cough
e. mucolytic oral meds: guiafenissen, humbid, mucinex
f. iv diuretics used in patients with chf/pulmonary edema
also includes minimal iv fluid rates in these patients often 50-80 cc/hr
if standard is 125/hr
g. possibly steroids--decrease inflamation lung tissue
h. oral or nasal tracheal suctioning
i. postural drainage if tolerated (often used w/ cystic fibrosis pts )
j. worse cases rarely done: bronchoscopyLast edit by NRSKarenRN on Mar 21, '07
Mar 21, '07from: thoracic surgery service manual
aggressive pulmonary toilet: incentive spirometry q1hour, cough/deep breathe q4 ... call a code and help will arrive if patient is crumping ...
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Mar 21, '07Quote from ZASHAGALKAI remember that cartoon...One of my favorite old time medical cartoons had a picture of three doors. The first door had a universal male sign, and the words, "Men's toilet". The second door had a universal female sign and the words, "Women's toilet". The third door had a picture of a pair of lungs and the words, "Pulmonary toilet".
Mar 22, '07Also, some of the RTs use a vest for the patient. It wraps around them and shakes and vibrates their chest while they do nebulizer treatments.
Mar 23, '07Funny thing is we are covering 2 sections this week- musculoskeletal and respiratory. Two different professors covered the topics. This NEVER came up in the respiratory portion of the lecture but did in the musculoskeletal lecture and we are being tested on both Monday.
Thanks for infor everyone and the giggles, which is important in school for sure!
Zacarias- A classmate had a best friend growing up with CF and said the vest you mention was a lifesaver for her and greatly improved her quality of life.
Mar 23, '07OMG! I have never heard of pulmonary toilet. It sounds so funny! But there is one phrase that I use quite often in my own charting that others think is funny: rectal vault. As in, "Upon digital examination of the rectal vault, this nurse found large, hard stool".
Mar 23, '07Quote from NRSKarenRNYes! I ask for Mucinex all the time and Drs look at me like I'm speaking another language! It works so well, but I have to engage in battle to get such a simple order. And I DON'T want it with DM.
e. Mucolytic oral meds: Guiafenissen, Humbid, Mucinex
Didn't Drs take pharmacology?
Mar 23, '07It's "toilette" v. as in grooming, cleaning, making fresh and servicable as opposed to "toilet" n. a receptacle for human waste.
Mar 23, '07TDub- it was written "toilet" in a handout and also on the board twice.
I think the difference is one is French, of which we happen to have a huge population up here in New Hampshire.
Mar 23, '07You're absolutley right--"toilet" is incorrect. It's Pulmonary Toilette. That what confuses one, because of course your mind jumps to the porcelain receptacle. When I was in school, I wrote 'toilet' and man, did I get skinned alive by the professorial nuns.
Mar 25, '07I too love Mucinex as its active ingredient is Guaifenesin 600 mg as extended-release tablet...much easier than needing to take liquid prep every 4 hours.
use with caution:
*Mucinex D: contains Guaifenesin plus Pseudophedrine 60 mg (makes some people hyper/ heart palpitations) and
*Mucinex DM: contains Guaifenesin plus Dextromethorpan cough suppressant
Re toilet or toilette......only seen "Pulmonary toilet" in nursing and medical literature; wouldn't be suprised if we corupted the nameLast edit by NRSKarenRN on Mar 25, '07
Mar 26, '07Quote from jill48Ah yes, the "rectal vault", also known as the "loading dock."OMG! I have never heard of pulmonary toilet. It sounds so funny! But there is one phrase that I use quite often in my own charting that others think is funny: rectal vault. As in, "Upon digital examination of the rectal vault, this nurse found large, hard stool".
But, not to be confused with Al Capone's vault. Let hope we never see a Geraldo Rivera special in which he is about to discover the contents of the rectal vault.
But, I digress. Remember never to flush the contents of the rectal vault in the pulmonary toilet.