Pot Smoking and Nursing - page 17

Im angry. I work for a small clinic in Northern CA. There are three RN's on staff at all time. Recently our Office Manager decided to start drug testing of all staff including Doctors. Well, one... Read More

  1. by   kakamegamama
    'tis a shame that one finds happiness from doing drugs......
  2. by   myelin
    Anyone here who thinks it is okay for people to drink alcohol in their free time but not to smoke pot needs their head examined. Or maybe they just need to take a peak at the literature. Marijuana is pretty much a benign substance. Alcohol can be very, very dangerous. I can't believe the ignorance in this thread. "Gateway drugs" (ie: drugs that lead people to use more drugs) are actually cigarettes and alcohol - these are the drugs people typically start using (and then move on to others), not marijuana.

    Now I wouldn't risk smoking pot since it is illegal and can get you in trouble with employers, but I don't smugly look down on those who do. After all, it would make me a huge hypocrite since I enjoy a drink every now and then. I definitely support any legislation to legalize marijuana. The fact that it is illegal while far more harmful drugs remain legal (such as alcohol) is a joke.

    ALSO - one big mistake people make has to do with considering only drug addicts who have used marijuana in the past. Many drug addicts have used marijuana (and cigarettes, and alcohol). Instead, the more important statistics is the vast, vast majority of people who have used marijuana and not become drug addicts.
  3. by   myelin
    Quote from Aurora77
    I was just going off of my personal experience. I don't doubt that the heavy duty addicts had to start somewhere. But what percentage of pot smokers go on to become drug addicts, or use other drugs? How many addicts started with alcohol? Should alcohol then be banned as well?

    I definitely agree with you about your coworker. Like I said, it's not something I would do since it is illegal. I just see it on par with having the occasional drink, but the law disagrees with me, so I obey the law.
    A very small amount of pot smokers become drug addicts. The vast majority of drug addicts start with alcohol (and cigarettes). I'm looking for the study right now...

    eta: Also, interesting thought for those who don't know. The reason marijuana was criminalized in the first place is so the paper manufacturers would not have to compete against hemp fiber industries (which is a much cheaper crop, easy to grow, sturdy, etc.).
    Last edit by myelin on Oct 28, '11
  4. by   xtxrn
    Talking to someone who doesn't smoke pot:

    :rckn:


    Talking to someone who smokes pot:



    Absolutely pointless
  5. by   latka6
    Since you clearly have never smoked pot....what do you know?
  6. by   myelin
    xtxrn - what an illogical statement. I do not smoke pot, but I think the argument that is dangerous is based on very weak evidence and is made even more ridiculous by the fact that a dangerous drug (alcohol) is perfectly legal. Getting high is getting high. Whether you prefer to have a couple of cocktails or smoke some pot, both methods are done for the same reason. Seriously, do the research yourself. There is plenty of academic literature out there.
    Last edit by myelin on Oct 28, '11
  7. by   MomRN0913
    I know pot is illegal as of now, I am one who does think it should be legalized, (and i have smoked it, although not a smoker, although if it was legal I would use it for sleep, because there is no medication that helps me with my sleep)

    Anyways point is for arguments sake, is it fair that a nurse or doctor can't go to a bar on their off days and have a few beers or shots, or even a lot of that's what they chose? That isn't good for either.

    Everything in moderation, unfortunately, we can't moderate everyone, whether it be food, sex, cigarettes, alcohol or pot. Nor can we stop anyone from using these things.
  8. by   carolmaccas66
    Quote from myelin
    A very small amount of pot smokers become drug addicts. The vast majority of drug addicts start with alcohol (and cigarettes). I'm looking for the study right now...

    eta: Also, interesting thought for those who don't know. The reason marijuana was criminalized in the first place is so the paper manufacturers would not have to compete against hemp fiber industries (which is a much cheaper crop, easy to grow, sturdy, etc.).
    I completely disagree, despite what the research says.
    I came from a town of violent, hard-drinking men & women. Most of them still drink - actually, all the ones I used to know at school who are still there - drink. And the ones that smoke dope continue to do so; they also smoke cigarettes like trains. All the people I knew at school who smoked still do - not one of them has given up. Two of them are now dead from brain cancer. One of the specialists told a neighbour of one of these women (who was my best friend at the time), that her particular brain cancer was caused by smoking.
    Smoking cigarettes - everyone did it except me, then they tried pot, and/or drinking and it just escalates.
    We had a guy in who tried to commit suicide by taking a heroin o/dose. He lived, but to celebrate living, he drank a bottle of JB & took pot instead. Now he just smokes all day. He will never stop, but he thinks that's better than taking heroin. I suppose in one way it is - his brain is all stuffed up now - but he will never give up the ciggies he told me. They are his life support.
    And cancers don't discriminate between you smoking dope or ciggies - and it's now a proven fact that schizophrenics' conditions are either exacerbated by smoking or caused by it. My BIL smoked dope for years - he was very open about it - and went on to very hard drugs. Now he has osteopenia, his back is stuffed for life, and I believe he is schizo.
    I think I'll just stick to my odd glass of wine, boring as it is. You can keep the smoking & drug taking in whatever form. It makes me shudder to see people smoking now - I think: it's just more work for me in the end.
    And personally speaking, I've never known a dope smoker/ciggie smoker who can only just have a 'little bit' of dope every now & then and stop when they want. It just doesn't happen IMO, which is sad.
  9. by   oneLoneNurse
    Maybe you should outlaw gambling and videogames too. According to research, there is a correlation between gambling, videogames and cocaine.

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010...me-as-cocaine/

    http://www.blackjackchamp.com/casino...cocaine-users/
  10. by   PinkRocksLikeMe
    Quote from MrsNurseCA
    Im angry.

    I work for a small clinic in Northern CA. There are three RN's on staff at all time. Recently our Office Manager decided to start drug testing of all staff including Doctors. Well, one of the Nurses I work with came back positive for marijuana use. My thought was "Well she should not be doing it anyways" I was actually glad to see her get in trouble.

    After discusing it with the Doctors they came up with a new unwritten policy. They will overlook marijuana. Basiclly, you can smoke all the pot you want but just on the weekends not during "on call" days. I questioned one of the Doctors about it and his response was to "chill"

    Does this seem wrong to anybody else? Do Nurses really smoke pot on there days off?
    ohhh, one of those....
  11. by   xtxrn
    Quote from myelin
    xtxrn - what an illogical statement. I do not smoke pot, but I think the argument that is dangerous is based on very weak evidence and is made even more ridiculous by the fact that a dangerous drug (alcohol) is perfectly legal. Getting high is getting high. Whether you prefer to have a couple of cocktails or smoke some pot, both methods are done for the same reason. Seriously, do the research yourself. There is plenty of academic literature out there.
    OK.....add talking to a drunk to the list. I had a neighbor who was sloshed 4-5 days a week, peeing on himself in the front yard, etc. I didn't have much to do with him either

    For those who disagree with me, Okee dokee
  12. by   Shutupntakeurmeds
    Legalize it. Tax it. Cut drug cartels income by 1/3.
  13. by   oneLoneNurse
    Quote from xtxrn
    OK.....add talking to a drunk to the list. I had a neighbor who was sloshed 4-5 days a week, peeing on himself in the front yard, etc. I didn't have much to do with him either

    For those who disagree with me, Okee dokee
    Thanks for a laugh, I totally agree with you. Where do we draw the line? I could also add being Canadian, orange, obese, Morman, a male nurse, etc., etc. to the list. The way 'our' laws stand now we are making criminals out of pot smokers. If we legalize it, we could make a bundle by taxing it, and the criminal element at least for pot would die.

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