Nursing Faculty Shortage and Salaries

[Rhilogan]

We are all aware that we have a nursing shortage, but we also have a major crisis in regard to nursing faculty shortages all across the country. One of the main reasons for this crisis is the disparity between salary in clinical practice for MSN prepared nurses and the nursing educator role.

If you would like to contribute to my data base please either post or email me the following info:

Degree held:

Educator Role:

Salary:

State you work in:

Type of Institution (College or University)

There is a movement going on in some parts of the country to equalize the salary between the clinical setting and the educational setting. I look forward to communicating with you!

[nursecassia]

I am from Canada in BC

I work in General Surgery

I have my BSN

I have been working for one year and I make about 60,000 (Canadian) a year not including overtime, my hourly wage is $31 not including shift differentials. Which are about 7.50 an hour for a night on a weekend etc.. And it goes up in increments each year, our contract is up for renewal in 2010. I have full medical and dental coverage a great pension plan and 12 paid vacation days per year, which is about 6 weeks with my sets. Our union pays for education if we want to specialize or get our masters degrees, I probably pay about 30 a paycheck in union dues which i get back at the end of the year with my tax return.

[heathersue]

I've wanted to go into nursing education...looks like I'll have to wait until my kids are out of college!

[iteachob, MSN, RN]

I've wanted to go into nursing education...looks like I'll have to wait until my kids are out of college!

Well, where I work that is one BIG perk......my child (and my spouse, too) can go to the college I work at tuition free!! Only.....he does not! Luckily he has academic scholarships (not full ride, but they help) where he does go.

[Rhilogan]

Okay, let's get back to the original request:

Degree held:

Where you teach-College or University

Salary per year:

State where you live:

Thanks

[PostOpPrincess, BSN, RN]

$40,000?

Are you kidding me? That's so much work for what you guys give to the new nurses.

SO VERY WRONG.

[PostOpPrincess, BSN, RN]

Well, I am going back for an advanced degree but there is no way I would settle for that.

I make six figures now (NO LIE, I live in SoFLA)...and that is working as a recovery room nurse.

There is NO WAY I could go back.

[rngolfer53]

I am really shocked at the salaries as I definitely believe they should be higher.

I think in most of academia, salaries are pretty poor until one reaches the doctorate level.

Since the schools aren't spending a lot on faculty, just what is the justification for huge increase in tuition?

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

PhD plus 32 years of clinical and teaching experience.

Adjunct Associate Professor (while working full time for a hospital)

Each 3-credit, semester-long course = $3500 -- No benefits and I have to supply my own computer for online course work, clerical supplies, etc.

I teach because I believe in the importance of what I teach and believe I can teach it better than most people. Also, I hope to ease into retirement someday by quitting my full time hospital job and work as a part time faculty member. This adjunct teaching will give me some experience that might get me a part time faculty position later.

I know you're an excellent insturctor. I know an MSN who makes about $2000.00 per 3-hour course teaching courses in a BSN program, so $3500 actually sounds good....comparatively speaking. It sounds like your pHD is getting you a premium....as it should. I wonder how much an hour though that works out considering the hours you must put in.

It is also really hard to hear so many "all instructors are evil" comments when you look at how much most of us care and how much we sacrifice to do what we love to do. I also work a 12 hour shift most weekends to supplement my pay and often full time in the summer.

All kidding aside, 99% of the time I love my job and my students, I just think it's time that America in general starts placing a higher value and priority on education.

It's got to be hurtful to have such passion and read some of the posts students post here. It's nice to remember that instructors are human beings with a passion for nursing.

I make more in my ADN-required charge nurse position than most of the salaries I've seen here, without any overtime or differentials as I work no day shift no weekends and 17 years experience. This is obscene because of the experience needed to teach properly, not to mention the 4 to 10 more years of education required.

[llg, PhD, RN]

I know you're an excellent insturctor. I know an MSN who makes about $2000.00 per 3-hour course teaching courses in a BSN program, so $3500 actually sounds good....comparatively speaking. It sounds like your pHD is getting you a premium....as it should. I wonder how much an hour though that works out considering the hours you must put in.

It's got to be hurtful to have such passion and read some of the posts students post here. It's nice to remember that instructors are human beings with a passion for nursing.

I make more in my ADN-required charge nurse position than most of the salaries I've seen here, without any overtime or differentials as I work no day shift no weekends and 17 years experience. This is obscene because of the experience needed to teach properly, not to mention the 4 to 10 more years of education required.

Thanks, Tweety. Actually, the $3500 is standard adjunct pay for this type of course because it involves videostreamed lectures plus online work -- as well as having some "live" students in the classroom as I give the lectures. It's such a complex teaching environment that they pay a bonus for it over what would be paid for the same course in a traditional classroom setting. But still ... when you consider that I usually have about 50 students in the class (and all those assignments to grade and e-mails to answer), it DOES require a lot of time.

I get no extra pay for my PhD either from the school or for my hospital job. In both cases, I occupy job slots that could technically be filled by people with MSN's and the salary scale is geared to the MSN level. There is no premium for the 5 years of doctoral education. That's what is sad ... and it gets to me sometimes.

Just recently, I was given a new task at my hospital job -- that of Magnet Coordinator -- to add on to my already full time job there. I was not asked if I was interested ... or what resources I would need to accomplish the task ... or anything like that. It was never discussed. I was just told informally that I was the "go to" person for that effort. As I am already at the top of the MSN pay scale because of my extensive experience and seniority at the hospital, there will be no more raises for me even when the other employees get raises. But I love my friends here and there is no other place in town to work... and now is not the time to put myself and my condo on the market.

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

I know what you mean llg, I finally am getting a "BSN required" job away from the bedside. Sad thing is that as I move up, I won't get a raise as I'm already "maxed out".

You wonder why we don't try to advance ourselves with higher degrees without incentive. I have other incentives for taking this position and I affected the offer, but it would have been nice to not be making the same thing as my ADN required job.

Getting Magnet status is a LOT of work. Ugh.......

[kaydee rn]

This forum is so greatly needed. As for the questions posed:

I have a DNP and teach in a community college in Pa. I have taught nursing for 27 years and make 55000 per year. The starting salary is 40000. Yes, it is appalling as Rhilogan stated. Even more troublesome is the fact that nursing faculty need to work more hours than other disciplines for the same money. Clinical and labs are compensated LESS than theory hours. This de-values clinical education. This "compensation formula" is based on an antiquated system and must be challenged. I urge all nurse educators to work towards getting these inequities changed.

[JBudd, MSN]

Okay, let's get back to the original request:

Degree held:

Where you teach-College or University

Salary per year:

State where you live:

Thanks

MSN

community college; just 1 two hour credit course/semester

$30/credit hour, as adjunct faculty

NM