Nurses and smoking...... - page 5

Ok kinda touchy subject...... Shopping for scrubs this morning, and yes I'll be the first to admit I smoke. Friend walks up to me and says "Aren't you a nurse??? Don't you know what that does to... Read More

  1. by   Debbie_LPN
    Yah! Thank you TriageRN_34!!!!!! :flowersfo
  2. by   allamericangirl
    :blushkiss ELOQUENT!!! Triage RN Bravo and thank you.
  3. by   pmchap
    Well - what a thread of debate... I (being a teacher as well as a nurse) have always struggled with the concept of how to effectively inform someone about health choices. The respratory nurse who goes for a smoking break probably says more to the patients then the chastising that the nurse gives them about cutting the ciggs. The PE teacher who huffs and puffs to walk around the track while lecturing about health & fitness. Both fall into the same boat. If we as professionals expect that our patients take what we say as valid and truthful - then we must live what we say.

    I have never smoked - that does not mean I don't recognise it is difficult for people to quit (my hospital has a policy of providing patches for any employees or patients who wish to quit - free of charge). I am overweight - but I am actively working on the problem - while I recognise that there are a million & one reasons for people being over weight - it truely does come down to what goes in & what is used. Even if your thyroid is up the creek - you can still lose weight. People who undergo banding - but dont change their lifestyle cant possible expect anything other then short term benefits. For me it ment selling the second care and riding my pushbike to work. I love my food and still eat roughly the same amount - to compensate I have to do more exercise - hence the bike riding. (I started at 40kgs overweight and am now about 25kgs over - 10months so far - but it is working slowly).

    To illustrate my point more clearly - if I want a nurse to learn how to give an injection I tell them, then show them, let them practice & then assess them. If I tell them & then show them the wrong technique - how can I ever expect the nurse to learn how to inject patients properly?

    We as nurses are suppose to look after the total patient - that includes more than just the acute illness that they where admitted for. If our actions promote unhealthy choices then aren't we being hypocritical?

    Cheers
    Peter
  4. by   Compton
    Well put TriageRN...
  5. by   purplemania
    smoking is a crutch, just like overeating and other behaviors. When we learn how to handle stress we need the crutch less often. As for waiting till Boards are done, there will always be some sort of stress to contend with, so waiting till a "perfect" time is not effective.

    Our city does not allow smoking in any building in which a child might be a customer (so bars are excluded).The exception is a business with separate venting systems for smoking areas. It is one thing to decide to maintain an unhealthy habit for yourself, but to thrust it upon others is unconscionable. I have asthma. Smoke and certain perfumes give me a restricted airway. It is like good manners versus bad. I have a responsibility to others to behave appropriately.
  6. by   Compton
    Quote from purplemania
    smoking is a crutch, just like overeating and other behaviors. When we learn how to handle stress we need the crutch less often. As for waiting till Boards are done, there will always be some sort of stress to contend with, so waiting till a "perfect" time is not effective.

    Our city does not allow smoking in any building in which a child might be a customer (so bars are excluded).The exception is a business with separate venting systems for smoking areas. It is one thing to decide to maintain an unhealthy habit for yourself, but to thrust it upon others is unconscionable. I have asthma. Smoke and certain perfumes give me a restricted airway. It is like good manners versus bad. I have a responsibility to others to behave appropriately.
    I kinda have a different opinion about smoking. Personally, I enjoy smoking... cigarettes, cigars, even hookas. There is something very relaxing about smoking that you can partially blame on nicatine, but I think I just like the act of smoking. If there was a cigarette that was not addicitive and horribly bad for you I would probably continue to smoke. But, unfortunately there isn't so I smoke only occasionaly. Anyone see where I am coming from?
  7. by   nursebear69
    Quote from nursen06
    Sadly at my place of work, about 90% of the nurses & aides are smokers. I don't have a problem with their smoking habits, to each their own.....but what i do have a problem with is the fact that the aides that smoke in MY facility are ALWAYS gone for a "5 minute" smoke break(once every half hour on eve shift).............guess who's left watching the floor???:stone
    I agree. most of the aides and nurses at the nursing home I work at smoke, too. I don't. They have a right to, dont get me wrong. It irritates me that smokers,in general, have the extra "breaks" for smoking. It doesn't sound the same if us NON smokers take a "5." I'm lucky sometmes to get the 1/2 hour supper break in before i have to plunge into the next med pass. It's not once q1/2 hour....but it still adds up. On the other hand....I have my vices,too. Smoking is never a good subject to argue about. If we NON smokers give a CON, the smokers have a PRO to add into the conversation. I tell my aides that if their work is done/caught up, then go ahead(on their smoke break). it may be an issue that doesn't get resolved. HAPPY NURSING!!!
  8. by   mattdixon
    I've been smoking less than a year, and it was mainly due to being very stressed out and depressed at the time. it started with just a few cigarettes a week but escalated to over a pack a day.

    I've been weening myself off of them, but I can assure you after being a non-smoker for 21 years and being a smoker the rest... it's probably the hardest thing to do in the world to quit.

    I've also encountered many many people that think because they don't smoke and I do that they have a "Right" to tell me where to shove it and every opinion they have on it.

    I'll give an example. about 2 and half months ago at a local Fair they had a section of the park that people could smoke and such. Well there happened to be some middle aged non smokers in the area that insisted I get away from them and get down wind of everyone else. I told the woman that initially said the first one liner, that this is the only place in the park that I can smoke and I'm sorry if the wind was blowing it at her, so I proceeded to get as far away from her as I possibly could. She then responds "all you people are the same, you don't care what you do to yourself or others around you" Well this could be further from the truth, when I'm going to my nursing classes or just walking around school smoking a cigarette I speed up to get away from people so they won't get it in their face, or risk being late by getting far behind people in front of me for the same reason. I never throw the butts on the ground and make it a must to put them in the appropriate places.

    So all I guess I'm really saying is before you start casting stones, think about some of the things you do and try not to say rude things to smokers or anyone and be their judge. Just because you don't smoke doesn't mean you can bombard them with rude comments and your opinions, it just doesn't give you a certain "right" they're not entitled to. Just because we smoke doesn't mean our feelings don't get hurt when someone is overly rude to us because of our terrible habit. Some of these people casting the stones are some of the same people that get piss drunk and take the chance of driving home risking someone elses life. We all only have one judge and that's God.

    Just think about how you would feel before you speak about a situation.
  9. by   Debbie_LPN
    Quote from mattdixon
    I've been smoking less than a year, and it was mainly due to being very stressed out and depressed at the time. it started with just a few cigarettes a week but escalated to over a pack a day.

    I've been weening myself off of them, but I can assure you after being a non-smoker for 21 years and being a smoker the rest... it's probably the hardest thing to do in the world to quit.

    I've also encountered many many people that think because they don't smoke and I do that they have a "Right" to tell me where to shove it and every opinion they have on it.

    I'll give an example. about 2 and half months ago at a local Fair they had a section of the park that people could smoke and such. Well there happened to be some middle aged non smokers in the area that insisted I get away from them and get down wind of everyone else. I told the woman that initially said the first one liner, that this is the only place in the park that I can smoke and I'm sorry if the wind was blowing it at her, so I proceeded to get as far away from her as I possibly could. She then responds "all you people are the same, you don't care what you do to yourself or others around you" Well this could be further from the truth, when I'm going to my nursing classes or just walking around school smoking a cigarette I speed up to get away from people so they won't get it in their face, or risk being late by getting far behind people in front of me for the same reason. I never throw the butts on the ground and make it a must to put them in the appropriate places.

    So all I guess I'm really saying is before you start casting stones, think about some of the things you do and try not to say rude things to smokers or anyone and be their judge. Just because you don't smoke doesn't mean you can bombard them with rude comments and your opinions, it just doesn't give you a certain "right" they're not entitled to. Just because we smoke doesn't mean our feelings don't get hurt when someone is overly rude to us because of our terrible habit. Some of these people casting the stones are some of the same people that get piss drunk and take the chance of driving home risking someone elses life. We all only have one judge and that's God.

    Just think about how you would feel before you speak about a situation.
    I am the same way. I won't smoke over someone elses house unless they give me permission(and if they dont smoke, I wont even ask!). But thats sooooo true, I don't throw my butts an the ground, and I avoid non-smokers. I don't try to harm anyone's health, and I don't plan on it.
  10. by   pawashrn
    As a former smoker and a RN, here is something of a news flash. I posted a list on our unit asking everyone to place a check beside their name when they went for a break. Yes, the smoker's appeared to have more, but when additional information was added to the list, such as "how much time spent in the kitchen or conference room" the breaks came close to being equal. Misconception, because people who don't smoke don't physically leave the unit, they feel that they didn't get a break. Conclusion: State you are leaving for your assigned break and physically leave the unit.
  11. by   pawashrn
    When I was a smoker. I was smoking outside in a designated area by the front of the hospital. A visitor came pass and made a remark about nurses smoking. I simply replied, "I agree. We all have bad habits: Some smoke and some show their ignorance" Respect is a two way street. As long, as you are a respectful smoker. Your rights should be respected. As nurses we see alot of the weaknesses of others. Smoking is just socially unacceptable and people feel they have the right to attack.
  12. by   Roy Fokker
    Quote from Compton
    I kinda have a different opinion about smoking. Personally, I enjoy smoking... cigarettes, cigars, even hookas. There is something very relaxing about smoking that you can partially blame on nicatine, but I think I just like the act of smoking. If there was a cigarette that was not addicitive and horribly bad for you I would probably continue to smoke. But, unfortunately there isn't so I smoke only occasionaly. Anyone see where I am coming from?
    I certainly do.

    I quit smoking over a year ago. I don't do cigarettes.
    But a couple of months or so, I stoke up my pipe and enjoy the evening.


    One of the first things I did when I moved into my new apartment was light up my pipe, pop open a Yeungling, ate Doritos while watching "Paths To Glory".

    I guess you could call me a recreational smoker. I don't do it for the "Nicotine fix" anymore. I do enjoy fine tobacco.

    cheers,
  13. by   HONEYIS2CUTE
    Hey i agree smoking is bad i had to more to another lunch area because when i was behind my manager her smoke landed in my face,

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