Nurses afraid to care for AIDS patients.

hapeewendy · Jan 10, 2003

ohhhhh you are so tricky with your new flashy nickname and avitar... so yer an alien, well that explains at least some of the crap you have spewed forth, its like a sci fi movie gone horribly wrong innit?

I dont need to guess what planet yer from...

seriously If I had known you were as anti-nurse as you appear to be then I would have ignored you form moment one, damn for the wasted posts...

and RNLou, that was a fantastic response, to someone who most likely wont get the point

but an A for effort nonetheless

RNpupil · Jan 10, 2003

I know its a pretty sick way to get everyones attention, most importantly answers, but it worked:chuckle `

Sleepyeyes · Jan 10, 2003

Originally posted by preferacutecare
I know its a pretty sick way to get everyones attention, most importantly answers, but it worked:chuckle `

:rolleyes: sure it did.....

Stargazer · Jan 10, 2003

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/troll.html

And you guys were wondering why my "ignore" list is so long? :rolleyes:

hapeewendy · Jan 10, 2003

I'm not wondering anymore :)

MIKEY LIKES · Jan 10, 2003

Man I smell something rotten...Ohhhhhh...it's just the "Flamebait".

hapeewendy · Jan 10, 2003

and if your goal was to make us all think youre a nurse hating moron, then yes you were incredibly successful :)

congrats on your achievement...

in the school of dumb you are sure to be the validictorian

truth be told , you offend me ,but I wont put you on ignore because clicking that lil ignore button is more effort than you're worth, so yep I'm done

with you :)

passing thru · Jan 10, 2003

I just read this entire thread. Not sure what it is about. I will post three "facts" I am familiar with.

#1.) For YEARS, I have observed doctors who are ''AFRAID'' of HIV patients, AIDS patients. We nurses always crack-up laughing after the docs leave the floor. With AIDS patients, 90% of our docs simply stick their heads in the door and ask "How's it going?" The other 10 % don't even do that much. Simply use chart and interview with nurse to plan their care. Leave us to tend to the IV starts, diarrhea, baths, personal care and emotional support.

#2.) I personally know a number of young women who have been dissuaded from healthcare careers "because of the AIDS epidemic." Their parents were firm about there being no reason to put themselves in risky situations with all the career options available for women.

#3.) Whether we want to think about it or not, accidents do and have happened. Universal Precautions do not guarantee we will not be a victim of an accident. Nurses have been stuck and splattered and have died from AIDS acquired from an AIDS patient. We cannot alter the statistics.

baseline · Jan 10, 2003

UNIVERSAL PRECAUTIONS. This thread beats all. I have known far more nurses killed in car accidents than by AIDS or any other hospital acquired illness. This is ridiculous. I feel like I've been transported back a couple of decades. What you know won't kill you .... it's what you don't know...........UNIVERSAL PRECAUTIONS. They have been around for awhile now.............

hapeewendy · Jan 10, 2003

baseline, my dear friend, while I admire your attempt to educate the clueless, I'm afraid its going to be a futile experience

some ppl just dont get it

and some ppl never will

:)

Stargazer · Jan 10, 2003

Originally posted by passing thru
With AIDS patients, 90% of our docs simply stick their heads in the door and ask "How's it going?" The other 10 % don't even do that much. Simply use chart and interview with nurse to plan their care. Leave us to tend to the IV starts, diarrhea, baths, personal care and emotional support.

Uuuhh--and the docs help a lot with these tasks on the non-AIDS patient, do they?

mattsmom81 · Jan 10, 2003

WARNING LONG WINDED POST

Nursing IS a dangerous occupation but some people don't like talking about that. Guess some find it easier stay in oblivion to the dangers. How many nurses do you know with work related injuries? How about nurses on disability? Is anybody really tracking cases of nurses with hepatitis, HIV or on the job injuries? Facilities would have the public think they care about their employees, but just ask someone who has been injured on the job...9 out of 10 will say administration attempted to intimidated or run them off, and deny any responsibility.

I guess I don't understand all the group anger directed at this poor misinformed CNA. Sounds like she mostly just needs information. I've worked in facilities where we have to beg for appropriate PPE in order to safely care for our patients. Too many facilities dodge their respponsibilities, IME.

I've worked in chronic understaffed critical care areas with combative, biting, fighting total care HIV and hepatitis patients with lines, ports, ETT's..many times the doc refuse to sedate....and I am here to tell you it IS scary...as we are not staffed well enough anymore and we cannot control EVERYTHING that happens 100% of the time. Guess I must work in an unusual area if this only happens to me....or guess nobody else wants to be as blunt as me and risk being labeled politically incorrect.

I don't wear full PPE with goggles and masks and waterproof gown in every ICU room. Knowledge of infectious disease principles dictates how much PPE I use. I totally disagree with those who suggest I DON'T have the right to be fully informed of my patient's diagnoses. To me THAT is in the dark ages.

If someone here bugs some of ya'll so much..why not just ignore them? Why the repetitive insults and put downs? In group mobbing fashion. I'm seeing a lot of this here lately on allnurses and it ain't pretty. JMHO.