Nurse Impersonators - page 8

:( Am I the only one who resents the "nurse impersonators" who abound in the health care field? Everyone who works at a doctor's office or in a hospital wears scrubs and seems to pass... Read More

  1. by   cinny071
    I am a Unit Clerk and I dress like the Nursing Staff, and yes it causes confusion for the patients and visitors alike.
    I cannot help them with their Medical issures nor answer their questions and they look at me like I don't want to help them.
    I think if I would not be in scrubs it would help. But then I wouldn't look like a NURSE, which I know the Adm. likes! I use to be a CNA, so I guess I know how to help!
  2. by   victoreia
    I agree with everyone.... Uniforms and identification badges are notenforced. Hopitals and other medical facilities allow aides and MA to do things only nurses should be doing to save a buck or two. I have a friend in Maryland, an MA who helps change dressings and blood draws and give medications. Nuses aides in LTC are giving medications out that they have little to no knowledge about and who gets in to trouble if they can't identify a reaction to a medication? Does that not fall back on the RN? In my work place I am ultimately responsible for the actions of the LPN's. I lkove the bright scrubs and things we can wear and we should be the only ones able to wear them. MA's should have their own.... Vicki RN... PS. funny I was thinking of this exact subject on the way home from work today.

    PSS. fogive my typo's I AM A NURSE NOT A TYPIST! :chuckle :roll
    Last edit by victoreia on Feb 6, '02
  3. by   Taber
    Please excuse my entrance into your discussion, but if one of you could please advise me as to where I might gain some information about RNPs ...and how they connect with potential practice opportunities...I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your advice and guidance.
  4. by   Taber
    While I await a hopeful response to my prior request....may I say that I even employ a nurse as a receptionist / nurse combination.. This person works part time in direct patient care and part time up front as a receptionist, as I feel this provides the best phone triage possible....along with better appointment scheduling.
  5. by   Q.
    Originally posted by Taber
    While I await a hopeful response to my prior request....may I say that I even employ a nurse as a receptionist / nurse combination.. This person works part time in direct patient care and part time up front as a receptionist, as I feel this provides the best phone triage possible....along with better appointment scheduling.
    Are you for real?

    Why not hire a nurse AND a receptionist? Why pay a nurse more to do secretarial duties? I mean, I guess I could see this concept working in a very small practice.....but geez.
  6. by   deespoohbear
    In our med-surg unit, the RN's and LPN's wear white pants/skirts and the CNA's and ward clerks wear all color. We are pretty fortunate in our unit that MOST of the CNA's do not to try and push themselves off as nurses. There is one or two CNA's that have overstepped their boundaries that we had to call on the carpet. The other CNA's I work with are great about reporting to me the slightest change in a pt's condition or anything else they think needs to be brought to the nurse's attention. I actually had on CNA one time find a lump in elderly lady's breast. She was giving this pt her bath and she asked me if I could come and check something out. Sure enough, there was a golf ball sized lump in the outer aspect of the breast and it was a malignancy. I would probably never would have caught that.
    As for the doctor's offices, I make sure I know who I am dealing with from the start. My family practice doc only has LPN's and RN's working his front office. His MA works in the back with the computer and billing and insurance and stuff. She used to work up front and was the person who usually answered the phone. I would just tell her right up front that I wanted to talk to a nurse. She didn't appreciate it much, but she would usually try and dictate appointments for you. It is a lot easier to schedule an appointment now.
    Speaking of dress codes, our housekeepers wear dark blue cover coats and jeans. They usually don't get mistaken for nurses, thank goodness!!
  7. by   thisnurse
    MA's SHOULD do time for giving the wrong drug. in fact they should do time for giving ANY DRUG.
    you wanna dispense meds-be a nurse.
    this post certainly has gotten out of hand. i agree with suz..its not about comparing nurses to CNA's or MA's, or resp techs...its about saying you are a nurse when you are not.
  8. by   Jessy_CA26
    "in fact they should do time for giving ANY DRUG.
    you wanna dispense meds-be a nurse."

    Ok NOW this has gotten out of hand. Yes deary we do drug calculations and dispense the meds and yes its 100% legal. Dont belive me? Then check out the AAMA ..

    Get over it.
  9. by   Huganurse
    What training does a MA receive and how long does it take? Just curious.
  10. by   nrselisa
    I am currently taking my req. for nursing at a local community college. They also offer AAS in MA, which is actually longer than the LPN program. Here is the info & a list of the req. classes.....(I hope it show up)

    MEDICAL ASSISTANT TECHNOLOGY
    A.A.S. Degree (Owens, Terry, Wilmington Campuses)

    The Medical Assistant is a multiskilled professional who works with other members of the health care team performing both clinical duties (assisting with patient care) and administrative duties (performing medical office duties).

    Graduates of the program may be employed in physicians' offices, hospitals, and other health care facilities. The program consists of course work in the following: keyboarding, medical transcription, business and computer applications for the medical office, insurance coding, phlebotomy, routine diagnostic testing, performing electrocardiograms, obtaining vital signs, and assisting the physician in clinical procedures. In addition to course work and laboratory experiences on campus, students are required to complete a supervised internship in a medical facility. Course work completed to fulfill requirements for the diploma can be applied towards the A.A.S. degree in Medical Assistant Technology.

    CORE COURSES

    Campus
    course number
    course name
    credits

    W,T
    COM 111
    Human Communications
    3

    O,W,T
    ENG 121
    Composition
    3

    O
    ENG 122
    Technical Writing & Communication
    3

    W,T
    ENG 124
    Oral Communications
    3

    O
    MAT 150
    Business Mathematics
    3

    W,T
    MAT 155
    Mathematics of Finance
    3

    O
    POL 111
    Political Science
    3

    O
    PSY 100
    Human Relations
    3

    W,T
    PSY 121
    General Psychology
    3

    W,T
    SOC 213
    Ethical Issues in Health Care
    3


    TECHNICAL COURSES

    Campus
    course number
    course name
    credits

    O,W,T
    OAT 120
    Medical Office Procedures
    4

    O,W,T
    OAT 121
    Keyboarding
    4

    O
    OAT 122
    Keyboarding Applications
    4

    O,W,T
    OAT 125
    Medical Computer Applications
    3

    O
    OAT 132
    Word Processing Referencing
    3

    W,T
    MEA 100
    Intro to Medical Assisting
    2

    O,W,T
    MEA 150
    Medical Laboratory Procedures I
    4

    O,W,T
    MEA 151
    Medical Laboratory Procedures II
    4

    O,W,T
    MEA 170
    Pharmacology for Medical Assistants
    3

    O
    MEA 255
    Comprehensive Medical Transcription
    3

    W,T
    MEA 270
    Medical Assistant Seminar
    1

    O,W,T
    MEA 290
    Medical Assistant Internship
    5


    TECHNICAL SUPPORT/COMPUTER COURSES

    Campus
    course number
    course name
    credits

    O
    ACC 101
    Accounting I
    4

    W,T
    ACC 151
    Accounting - Part I
    4

    O
    ACC 201
    Business Law
    4

    O,W,T
    BIO 100
    Medical Terminology
    3

    O,W,T
    BIO 110
    Intro to Anatomy & Physiology
    4

    W,T
    CIS 107
    Intro to Computers & Applications
    3

    W,T
    CIS 112
    Spreadsheet/Graphics Processing
  11. by   Jessy_CA26
    My MA program was 12 months long and then I had a 360 hour externship. The following is the classes I took some programs last up to two years with a AA degree in Medical Assisting or four years with a Bachlors in Medical Assisting.. You can get your C-MA or R-MA as well .. Class was every day 4 hours a day

    Patient Care and Communication
    Clinical Assting and Pharmacology
    Medical Insurnace Bookkeeping and Health Sciences
    CardioPulmonary and Electrocardiography
    Labratory Procedures
    Endocrinology and Reproduction
    Theraputic Care
    Emergeny/Triage Care
    Survey of Human Anatomy and Physiology
    Minor Surgical Procedures - (Assisting with)
    Medical Terminology for Health Care Workers
    Legal and Ethical Isues
    Decision Making in the Health Care Setting

    Second-year students are offered electives in advanced phlebotomy and ophthalmology to assist them in becoming eligible to sit for two additional national certification exams: certified phlebotomist (CLPlb) and certified ophthalmic assistant (COA)

    Clinical duties vary according to state law. They include taking and recording vital signs and medical histories, patient education and instruction, preparing patients for and assisting during the examination and minor surgery. Medical assistants administer diagnostic tests, collect and prepare laboratory specimens and may perform laboratory tests on the premises, dispose of contaminated supplies, and sterilize medical instruments. They instruct patients about medication and special diets, prepare and administer medications , authorize drug refills as directed, telephone prescriptions to a pharmacy, draw blood, and prepare patients for x-rays, take EKGs, remove sutures and change dressings.
  12. by   nrselisa
    I am so sorry! I didn't think my post would be so long! Silly me!!!!!
  13. by   Agnus
    Jessy, bottom line is you are not a nurse. Until you are licensed as one you cannot legally call yourself one. I do know what you must go through to get certified as an MA. It is Not a license. I have been where you are there is a big diffrence between a nurse and a CMA. Your state is an exception (I suspect it is California) You will find getting your LVN by this route is not recogonized by any other state. i. e. there will be no resiprosity. Where there will be for other LVNs from your state, if they go out of state. There is a reason for this.

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