No Nursing Shortage At The Present Time - page 16

by TheCommuter 69,920 Views | 340 Comments Senior Moderator

I am assured that some of you are reading this and saying to yourselves, "Duh! This topic is old hat. We already know there's a glut of nurses in many parts of the country, so why are you writing about this?" Here is my reason... Read More


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    One more reason I think there is a nursing glut is because the schools are graduating people who don't belong there at all.At my school there were people who graduated with all C's.My school would also curve grades a lot.The students who were more social passed even though they got bad grades and always failed tests.My school always put more emphasis on nursing skills rather than grades,so that the students who did terrible on the class portion but did great in the clinical portion still passed. I know lots of nurses who are great at skills but terrible about giving out correct info or don't know basics about common diseases.Some jobs have wised up though. I would say over 75% of nursing jobs I had applied to in three years have asked for transcripts. This is a recent thing that I read nursing jobs do nowadays to weed out some applicants. I alsocame across a few that ch. eck credit reports
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    I know I typed another post to this thread.....apparently it was lost....in some manner/way.
    Yes unrestrained capitalism, that is unrestrained by ethics, morals, or law, does not work.
    I can remember reading a quote once, I think it was a grandson of John D Rockefeller, that his grandfather had not broken any laws, but a lot of laws were passed because of him.
    How about "Truth in advertising"?
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    Quote from smartnurse1982
    On I alsocame across a few that ch. eck credit reports
    That's it - pass the popcorn... if I didn't JUST get a new grad job I wouldn't be able to in that case, bcause they would weed me out based on credit without ever knowing that it was because my husband left me the 1st day of nursing school with two kids, no job, and no child support... but then again - I still have my "GroupOne" background check pending... ugh

    I understand it's a weed out process but WTH does credit have to do with being a nurse? Sometimes credit issues are a matter of circumstance, not irresponsibility. A credit check without knowing an applicant's true background is in poor taste... but that's just my
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    From what I can understand they use it as a way of telling if your irresponsible of if you might be in a position to be tempted to steal from your employer. I guess it's more intended to be used in positions where your directly handling cash. But is it irresponsible when you suddenly don't have money IDK. Maybe they are looking for specific things like gambling debts or medical collections.
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    Quote from tothepointeLVN
    Maybe they are looking for specific things like gambling debts or medical collections.
    Some credit reports also list previous employers. Therefore, companies can sometimes tell if you are being dishonest about your work history if they see a job on the credit report that you failed to mention.

    Many people with checkered work histories try to hide some of their past, but the credit report may potentially expose any lies.
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    My advise(re: credit reporting , employment applications and crdit cards)- file for banckruptcy- they take those little cards from you right then and there. Then you have to pay every thing in cash. "My lips are sealed" Bankruptcy does have it's privlidges.

    There was a case maybe 2 years ao of an unemployed father( he had custody of his young boys) who was trying to get a job but continued to be turned down due to his poor credit history which was due to his inablity to pay his bills which was due to his unemployment- the catch 22 effect. i think it was with that that companies were forced to not rely so heavily on the the almighty credit report

    I wonder if the transcript thing is not because of the 'language' in some job postings " Must be a graduate of an NLN or AACN accredited school of professional nursing"
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    Quote from smartnurse1982
    One more reason I think there is a nursing glut is because the schools are graduating people who don't belong there at all.At my school there were people who graduated with all C's.My school would also curve grades a lot.The students who were more social passed even though they got bad grades and always failed tests.My school always put more emphasis on nursing skills rather than grades,so that the students who did terrible on the class portion but did great in the clinical portion still passed. I know lots of nurses who are great at skills but terrible about giving out correct info or don't know basics about common diseases.Some jobs have wised up though. I would say over 75% of nursing jobs I had applied to in three years have asked for transcripts. This is a recent thing that I read nursing jobs do nowadays to weed out some applicants. I alsocame across a few that ch. eck credit reports
    While one understands your concern take heart in knowing such new grads still must pass both the NCLEX and often the numerous exams facilities administer as part of the hiring process. The pharma exams in particular are proving to be where the wheat is sorted from the chaff so to speak.

    So in general you are right to worry, but know that hospitals and others no longer simply accept the fact one has a license as the last word for being hired anymore.
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    Quote from kcmylorn
    My advise(re: credit reporting , employment applications and crdit cards)- file for banckruptcy- they take those little cards from you right then and there. Then you have to pay every thing in cash. "My lips are sealed" Bankruptcy does have it's privlidges.

    There was a case maybe 2 years ao of an unemployed father( he had custody of his young boys) who was trying to get a job but continued to be turned down due to his poor credit history which was due to his inablity to pay his bills which was due to his unemployment- the catch 22 effect. i think it was with that that companies were forced to not rely so heavily on the the almighty credit report

    I wonder if the transcript thing is not because of the 'language' in some job postings " Must be a graduate of an NLN or AACN accredited school of professional nursing"
    Not sure if you meant the above as joke, but I'd never advise anyone to declare bankruptcy except as a final drastic resort.

    Bad credit is one thing but a bankruptcy on one's credit report can shut doors not only for credit but employment as well for a very long time.

    As for getting rid of credit cards, I shouldn't rush to do that either.

    Credit scores are based on many factors but the main ones are one's credit in relation to income and payment history as well as amount of time the account has been open. While one can have a bad history with an account at the moment, making payments on time and paying down the balance will eventually raise one's credit score. OTHO opening a new account, especially if many are done at once can actually lower your credit score.

    If someone feels they cannot be trusted with having a credit card in their purse, cut the things up and or shred them. Long as the account is open and in good standing the number is still vaild and one can use it in an emergency, well long as it does not require swiping the card. Or, simply report the thing lost and you'll receive another.
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    Quote from DoGoodThenGo
    Not sure if you meant the above as joke, but I'd never advise anyone to declare bankruptcy except as a final drastic resort.

    Bad credit is one thing but a bankruptcy on one's credit report can shut doors not only for credit but employment as well for a very long time.

    As for getting rid of credit cards, I shouldn't rush to do that either.

    Credit scores are based on many factors but the main ones are one's credit in relation to income and payment history as well as amount of time the account has been open. While one can have a bad history with an account at the moment, making payments on time and paying down the balance will eventually raise one's credit score. OTHO opening a new account, especially if many are done at once can actually lower your credit score.

    If someone feels they cannot be trusted with having a credit card in their purse, cut the things up and or shred them. Long as the account is open and in good standing the number is still vaild and one can use it in an emergency, well long as it does not require swiping the card. Or, simply report the thing lost and you'll receive another.
    Re: Credit cards

    Someone once told me this tip: Put your cards on ice. Literally. As in, put them in a container of water and put it in the freezer. Makes you really think things over as to whether you really need whatever it is you're going to put on the credit card as it thaws out. Beats accumulating a lot of debt you wouldn't have had otherwise!
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    Gee...... If there is a nursing shortage, we have a built in excuse for working short handed in almost every area!! Nurses leaving and not being replaced and their positions being eliminated! It is true that a lot of people will become or have become Nurses but how many will stay once reality sinks in? I'm just sayn?????


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