Mother upset with son's camp

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I am still awake at 3am, because I am so frustrated after a day of dealing with people at the band camp that my 12 year old son is attending.

Here's the scoop:

I took him to camp on sunday, about 2 and 1/2 hours away, this is his first time away from home for more than a night. It's a week, anyway, my son has asthma and many allergies. For this he takes Advair inhailer bid and Allegra, now the allegra he can have either 60 mg or 180 mg depending on how he feels that day and if he takes the 60 in the morning and needs another he can repeat it. Of course, if he takes 180 in the am then he can't repeat it. He understands his meds well and administers them himself and really seems to be in touch with what he needs. In any case, I had to turn in his meds at registration (state law) they assured me they would be administered per instructions...there was a health and medicine form I filled out spelling this all out and there were labels on the meds. They did let him keep his albuterol inhailer with him however. So the problem starts when he is talking to me on the phone sunday night and while we are talking a guy comes in and says to him well here's your allegra 60 mg's but we can't find your advair inhailer , it's ok though cause you'll be ok without it. I can hear him....I'm screaming in the phone to tell him to come back but my son doesn't want to cause any problems. So I get on the phone with all the phone no's we have trying to get someone and of course it is 10 at night and I get voice mails and messages telling me when someone will be there.

I call this morning talk to the camp counsler, she gives me the name of someone in health medicine for the university this is being held at and tells me that the camp is not responsible for the meds the university is. HuH

To make a long story a little shorter...after talking to 4 different people I finally talked to someone that said he would handle it and call me back. I got a call back saying that they had a meeting with my son and that he has his advair in his posession and that someone would come to his room and bring both doses of allegra that he only gets in the am, not the pm when they brought it to him, so I feel a little more at ease that things will be ok.

But....Nooooooooooooo.......

He calls tonight he does not have his advair, he has not had a meeting with anyone, he has no idea what I'm talking about. So I get on the phone again, calling the health medicine dept. which are athletic trainers, I did find out that they had pharm. courses. I almost fell over when they said there was no nurse there. They make some phone calls and tell me that the camp counsler who I talked with this afternoon, is on her way to my son's dorm to deliver the meds and gives me her cell no. I talk to my son a half hour later, no one has come, so I call her cell phone and she gives me a story about how busy her day was and how she had to have lunch brought to her ...bla...bla...bla. I remind her that it should not by my son's problem what her day was. (ever hear that before) and that if parents are asked to put our kids in their hands and trust the things they say then they have a responsibility to follow through. She became more defensive, before I asked if she was a mother, she suddenly got quiet and said yes, and then began to apologize to me. It was little comfort to me , I can't believe anything they say. I asked her to call me when she got to my son's room so I could talk to both of them, she did and he has the med now but still has to go for his allegra in the am. She really couldn't answer any of my questions of how the advair got lost or found why there was a meeting that never occured between her and my son, or why the system is breaking down in general. I do have a name of the director of the camp to call tomorrow. It got me thinking that if I had to cause such a deal just to get my kid his meds, what about those who don't, how many other mistakes are just blown over without a big mouth like mine.

I'm not sure if this really helped me to write all this out, I find myself stiffer still and unable to relax. Thanks to anyone who actually read this. Ahhhhhh....

ok this will not make you feel any better but I see both sides. your frustration and their reasoning for taking it. when i was in 6th grade (i am now a senior in highschool) i was on the basketball team (the only sport my school had). well one girl had an inhalior at school, and another at home. she did not ever think to bring an inhalior to practice till one day she had an asthma attack. one of the coaches sent his son who he always brought with him to practice (it was the girls team) to find the janitor who opened the office and got the girl her inhalior. she obviosly brought one with her after that. but if the school did not have one...and to be honest the janitor had not been there...this girl would have been in trouble

now on the other side. a few years ago I went to camp. my med dosage got changed...my mom wrote a note...but they still had to call my doc to check. you see it was changed while I still had some so we did not have a new script yet so it still said the old dose on the bottle.

Specializes in ICU, telemetry, LTAC.
I am so sorry that you and your son are going through this mess. It is very frightening when a child has an asthma attack. I went through a similar situation with my son when he was in grade school. The MD insisted that he should carry the inhaler in his pocket and wrote a note. The school took it away from him. I did not find out until I got home from work and of course the school was closed. I was so mad I went to the school and demanded that a janitor get in the office and return it. That poor innocent guy did get the inhaler but I'm sure he only did it because I was ranting about people dying during an asthma attack. I am sure that I was overly dramatic. The camp should have called you as soon as they were aware of the inhaler bing missing. How sad that you sons first camp experience has been tainted. I would demand that they replace the inhaler. Advair is very expensive. With my insurance I had to pay 50 dollars for my sons last inhaler.

It's not being overly dramtatic. People do die from asthma, there's a reason albuterol is called a "rescue" breather. Be as dramatic as you want.

Hi all, thanks for your comments. I just got off the phone with the managing director of the camp, after 4 calls to others before I got to her. She was very concerned that this had happened and asked me what to do about it. Do you believe that...she asked me what to do about it. Last time for this camp I would say. I asked if the person who actually gives the meds was linsenced to do so, she said no that they are prepared at the health medicine department then handed to Lisa to give. She is a camp counselor. She then distributes them to the kids, I ask how this is legal she says well we have been doing it for years and we are reviewed by state each year and we keep our license. What do you guys think of that?

I told her I did not think much of it, that as a nurse I could not legally hand medicine to a cna and have them give it to a patient. She says well thats true, but you deal with life and death situations????????/ lkWhat does she think an asthma attack is. I don't know what to do at this point, she said she would talk to lisa and that maybe she has to much to do and should not have the responsibility of the medications. I told her she needs to take responsibility for Lying to me and for not following through on her task. She has no right to decide that she can wait until she has time to give meds. There are state laws about that. In the meantime, my son is really having a wonderful time at camp and making friends or I think I would go and bring him home now. I'm still frustrated even though he now has his inhailer, and it appears that things have been solved. I want more...I don't know what, but I have spent hours on the phone ...long distance dealing with this problem, not to mention the hours of worry and frustration and lack of sleep,and even though this is solved for the moment, I feel unsatisfied. Oh well, I guess I'll get over it.

In light of all you and your son went through, I actually think it was a good idea to ask you what to do about it. Your input, as an involved parent, would be wonderful. I sincerely hope that she didn't NOT know what to do, but was asking for your ideas on the subject.

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I'm about to start my 3rd year being the camp nurse for my boys' week at church camp.

In the past, we kept and organized all the meds and distributed them.

(you can't leave unattended prescriptions meds in camping areas where young children might come across them). So, not only the kids leave their meds with us, but any adult supervising kids must leave theirs, also.

The problem that I had was that there was no real way to stay on top of 'missed' meds: if the child didn't come to the clinic for his meds, it might be a day or two before I figured out he was avoiding them.

And some children with ADD meds: they don't like taking them - if mom/dad isn't forcing the issue, they conveniently 'forget'.

SOOOOOOOOO, this year during the off seaon, I've revamped how we document meds so that I have a ready 'MAR' for each child that I can skim and see who's taking meds and not. Experience is a teacher and for the past several years, this camp has had nurses come in and out but no steady staff that can correct issues from year to year. (The year before, I probably spent 300 hours putting together a SOP and credible standing orders).

I think before I sent my kids to camp in the future, one of the questions I'd ask is about the health services available. In a camp of about 300 kids, I normally have 20-30 parents grill me at check-in on how and what services are available for health maintenance. I applaud those parents - and those parents give me an opportunity to make notes on their children so I know how to do things "mom's" way - invaluable.

But they are clearly the minority.

And as was recently posted, if you are taking/sending your kids to camp on prescription meds: the dosing instructions have to match the label instructions. I cannot dispense 2 of a drug labeled "give 1 every day" just because you and your doc discussed that 2 would be better now. I have to have a label that says "give 2 every day" or a note from the doc or the availability to contact the doc, or the child gets none (I can't knowingly underdose a child, either. - without clear instructions on how to take a med, I cannot legally give the med; it's a 'five' rights issue) I've spent many wasted hours trying to track down parents taking a 'vacation' from their children in order to get them to have the doc's office call me at camp to clarify an order because they dropped off scripts with hand written instructions taped over the legal instructions.

~faith,

Timothy.

I'm about to start my 3rd year being the camp nurse for my boys' week at church camp.

In the past, we kept and organized all the meds and distributed them.

(you can't leave unattended prescriptions meds in camping areas where young children might come across them). So, not only the kids leave their meds with us, but any adult supervising kids must leave theirs, also.

The problem that I had was that there was no real way to stay on top of 'missed' meds: if the child didn't come to the clinic for his meds, it might be a day or two before I figured out he was avoiding them.

And some children with ADD meds: they don't like taking them - if mom/dad isn't forcing the issue, they conveniently 'forget'.

SOOOOOOOOO, this year during the off seaon, I've revamped how we document meds so that I have a ready 'MAR' for each child that I can skim and see who's taking meds and not. Experience is a teacher and for the past several years, this camp has had nurses come in and out but no steady staff that can correct issues from year to year. (The year before, I probably spent 300 hours putting together a SOP and credible standing orders).

I think before I sent my kids to camp in the future, one of the questions I'd ask is about the health services available. In a camp of about 300 kids, I normally have 20-30 parents grill me at check-in on how and what services are available for health maintenance. I applaud those parents - and those parents give me an opportunity to make notes on their children so I know how to do things "mom's" way - invaluable.

But they are clearly the minority.

And as was recently posted, if you are taking/sending your kids to camp on prescription meds: the dosing instructions have to match the label instructions. I cannot dispense 2 of a drug labeled "give 1 every day" just because you and your doc discussed that 2 would be better now. I have to have a label that says "give 2 every day" or a note from the doc or the availability to contact the doc, or the child gets none (I can't knowingly underdose a child, either. - without clear instructions on how to take a med, I cannot legally give the med; it's a 'five' rights issue) I've spent many wasted hours trying to track down parents taking a 'vacation' from their children in order to get them to have the doc's office call me at camp to clarify an order because they dropped off scripts with hand written instructions taped over the legal instructions.

~faith,

Timothy.

I very much understand the problems that this situation could cause, many kids and a few people to deal with them. however you are a nurse, the person giving meds here is not, nor a med tech. and all meds were labled from the pharmacy with dose and instructions. there should have been no mistake if they were read and also a health medical form was filled out by me giviing the dose and time. The camp has handled this poorly and even though they now promise it won't be a problem any longer...what about the things that are not noticed or kids without mothers who are relentless.

also they said they have about 100 more kids this year than last year. Well we paid 380dollars for this camp. I they have 100 more kids then they have 380 a hundred more times also, and they can hire......should hire enough people to handle them.

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