Meth is destroying communities

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I am originally from a small town in southern West Virginia. I have lived away from the area for about 8 years now, but I continue to go back 3-4 times a year to visit family and friends. I have noticed over the last several years that the town I grew up in (and many small towns just like it) is being devastated by the growing methamphetamine problem. Streets that I used to ride bikes on as a kid are no longer safe, the crime rate has skyrocketed (vandalism, theft, assault, arson, you name it), a growing number of people are on welfare and are jobless because they spend all of their money doing drugs. The conditions of these towns are terrible....run-down builidings, condemned buildings (from houses that were used as meth labs), people not taking care of themselves and their properties. It makes me want to cry just thinking about how nice my little town used to be and now it's completely overrun by drugs. My mother told me that she could guarantee that if a car drives down our street past 10:00pm, 9 out of 10 times it will be a drug-run. My next door neighbors have taken in a baby of one of their relatives because the parents were so strung out on meth that they left her laying in a crib and her skull was sunken in. My first cousin has had two people found dead in her trailer within the last year and she recently came into some money (about $60,000, but that is a long story) and it's ALL gone within 4 months....all spent on drugs! Stories like this are all I hear now about the area that I grew up in. Is anyone else facing issues like this? What can be done to change this worsening epidemic? Any thougtful input would be appreciated!

Does anyone know what causes the sores and the changes in their teeth?

A lot of it is due to their compromised nutritional status...they can go for days without eating or sleeping when on a meth binge.

Also, chronic meth users pick at their skin compulsively. I recall one woman that came into our rural ER who, besides having sores all over her body, believed that there were glass shards in her feet. Never mind that she was barefooted on arrival - she was completely delusional as to there being foreign bodies in her skin.

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the meth madness website that was posted was amazing. besides the 'faces of meth' pictures it talks about the 'meth mouth' and its causes and the sores that users get.

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I recall one woman that came into our rural ER who, besides having sores all over her body, believed that there were glass shards in her feet. Never mind that she was barefooted on arrival - she was completely delusional as to there being foreign bodies in her skin.

This goes back to the fact that meth users brains are very similar to the brains of paranoid schizophrenics.

Willow,

Perhaps you can enlighten some of us as to the thought processes of meth users. Especially those that manufacture the meth in their homes. As they are making this concoction do they not look at the ingredients that are going into it and think, "Hmmm.....I don't know if this is such a good thing for me to be putting in my body." Or is the need for a high so great that it completely overcomes all rational thought a person might have? Also, do you believe it's more of a physical addiction or a mental addiction, or a combination of both?

A lot of it is due to their compromised nutritional status...they can go for days without eating or sleeping when on a meth binge.

Also, chronic meth users pick at their skin compulsively. I recall one woman that came into our rural ER who, besides having sores all over her body, believed that there were glass shards in her feet. Never mind that she was barefooted on arrival - she was completely delusional as to there being foreign bodies in her skin.

Good point on nutritional status. Another reason the teeth decay, is the corosive ingredients in meth. BATTERY ACID, can you imagine?

Have a blessed day

We have a huge meth problem in the town next to us (we also have a big problem in my town. The town was know for being the meth capital of the state (possible in the US) back in the 90's.

My husband is a correctional officer for our county and sees the daily problems associated w/ meth (crime, hiv/ hep, child abuse/ neglect, etc) This drug is completely out of control because of the cheapness, ease of making it, and ease of finding the material for making it. One of the main ingredients for making it is an OTC decongestant. Almost anyone w/ a little chemistry knowledge can make it which makes it that much more dangerous.

One of the things that stores/state laws are starting to do in our area is to limit the amount of the OTC drug (2-3 boxes at a time) that you may buy at one time and locking up the med so it is harder to steal.

If you are truely worried about the town you grew up in maybe you could contact the local police dept or mayor and see what you can do to help. There are different groups that go out and try to help the community. It is so sad to say, but meth is here and it is killing more and more of our citizens.

Erin (who has seen what meth can do to a community first hand)

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A few thoughts:

* Addiction is more than just "craving for a hit".

* No one becomes a raging alcoholic after their first drink. The same is true for any drug - legal or illegal.

* There are plenty of people who take recreational drugs but don't let it control their lives. There is a world of a difference between "use" and "abuse".

I believe that a good chunk of addiction lies with psychological desire. The physiological dependence makes quitting harder - certainly. But if the psychological desire lesses, the physiological dependence can be overcome.

I'd also like to thank WillowBrook for his/her posts.

cheers,

Willow,

Perhaps you can enlighten some of us as to the thought processes of meth users. Especially those that manufacture the meth in their homes. As they are making this concoction do they not look at the ingredients that are going into it and think, "Hmmm.....I don't know if this is such a good thing for me to be putting in my body." Or is the need for a high so great that it completely overcomes all rational thought a person might have? Also, do you believe it's more of a physical addiction or a mental addiction, or a combination of both?

Well I just have to make clear that I am talking from the point of view of someone who used and came close to having a major addiction to it but never quite crossed the line with that particular drug, although I do always maintain that my drug of choice was Meth my drug of addiction was Heroin.

Anyway with regards to peple manufacturing at knowing what they are putting in there bodies, well the fact that they do know exactly what is going into the mix for some people makes them feel safer. It's not like they're buying off someone and not knowing if it's been cut with god knows what or if it has been made properly and so on. Also there is a sort of illicit thrill that goes along with cooking meth, it's fairly easy to do (I've seen it done but never participated myself) and it becomes almost a sort of status thing amongst meth users if you are a cook. It's part of the whole culture and lifestyle surrounding Meth, feeling invincible, cool, above the law etc (all of course fueled by the effects of Meth).

And then of course yes there is the component where people are just so addicted that the only thing they care about is where there next hit comes from. I experienced this very much so with Heroin, when your addict you tend to almost have tunnel vision where you just cannot focus on anything but the drug and how to obtain it. It's not like you just feel like doing it, when you are an addict you crave the drug, you can't think of anything else and it's like you feel as if you will go crazy or breakdown and not be able to cope if you don't get it. I know people who were addicted to Meth who would scrape their carpets with a knife in order to hopefully be able to pick up just a few loose remnants of the drug that they could then inject, and I remember when I was addicted to Heroin there were times when I was craving the drug so badly I could literally taste and smell it everywhere I went. When addiction gets to that level you really feel almost animalistic, it's a real sense of just absolute desperation.

The difference between Meth and Heroin though is that with Heroin once you do have your hit you tend to be instantly filled with remorse and just hate yourself for what you have become, whereas with Meth this doesn't happen so much because of the nature of the high and the false confidence it instills in you. There can be a physical component to Meth addiction if someone is a longterm or heavy user, but the main focus with Meth addiction is psychological, that does not make it any less powerful though. Unlike Heroin, where you know if you don't get X amount of the drug X amount of times a day you are going to be suffering some serious pain, with Meth you know that if you don't have it for a couple of days you're not going to suffer that much physically. I think this does make it hard for people to accept when they have a problem until things become really desperate because it's not like you can think "I'm only taking this drug now to stop myself from being sick from withdrawal, something isn't right here", there's not that sort of warning sign of physical addiction that really lets you know that "hey you know I think things have gone too far". And then also like I said before, there is the whole invicibility, false sense of control and confidence and so on that Meth induces in people and the fact that Meth is seen by many people as just being a recreational party drug, another form of Speed and nothing to be concerned about. I mean it's not like your taking Heroin and then sweating and writhing in pain when you don't get your hit, so a lot of people don't take Meth use as seriously as they should.

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I have watched this thread since it started. I started to post several times and deleted it. However, I just want to say that addiction and the problems that it brings ruin families which is the basic unit of our society.

My husband and I have been married for over 26 years. Our youngest son (21) is an addict. It happens even in good families: we are upper middle class - we planned the pregnancy and were so thrilled when it was determined that we were having our second son. We were scout leaders, Sunday School teachers, we spent lots of time with our son. We had the resources to help him too and we have spent literally thousands of dollars trying to get him help over the years. One of his friends died two years ago from a heroin OD.

We have had no contact with him (by his choice alone - he won't return any phone calls) for a month. My husband and I know (in our hearts) that the next time we hear about him will be either from the police or the coroner.

Drugs stink! (I write this with tears because I am so afraid for him). We do love him very much.

TraumarUs - I'm very sorry to hear about your son's situation. It's good that you spoke out about it though because so many people just don't think it can happen to "people from a good home". One of my best friends is battling an addiction to Heroin, he comes from an upper middleclass home, his father is a very well respected member of the community, he was sent to Private School for his education, was involved in Tennis and other sporting + community group, just to give you an idea of the sort of background he has. The stereotype of the typical drug user leads a lot of people to believe that it couldn't possibly happen "in our family". Look around you, your co-workers, friends, family, people on the street etc, anyone of them could be a Drug addict. Drugs don't discriminate.

A few thoughts:

* Addiction is more than just "craving for a hit".

* No one becomes a raging alcoholic after their first drink. The same is true for any drug - legal or illegal.

* There are plenty of people who take recreational drugs but don't let it control their lives. There is a world of a difference between "use" and "abuse".

I believe that a good chunk of addiction lies with psychological desire. The physiological dependence makes quitting harder - certainly. But if the psychological desire lesses, the physiological dependence can be overcome.

I'd also like to thank WillowBrook for his/her posts.

cheers,

Your welcome and btw it's her :wink2: . With what you said about addiction being more than just a craving for the drug, that is very very true. It's probably hard for someone who has never been an addict to understand, but it's not just the drug you are addicted to it's everything surrounding the drug. You become addicted to the act of scoring, having the drug in your possession and feeling somehow above the constraints of societies expectations, the thrill of the needle (or whatever other method you are using), the ritual of preparing a mix for shot and so on. The actual drug itself is only one part of a much larger picture when it comes to addiction.

For interests sake to put into perspective how addictive Meth is compared with Heroin, and I'm not trying to say that Meth is not something we should be concerned about because obviously it is, out of a group of roughly 40-50 people who were Meth users only 3 people could have really been considered full blown addicts. Compare that to when the same group of people began to use Heroin and only 2 people in that group escaped a full blown Heroin addiction.

Marijuana as a gateway drug was also mentioned before. I live in a state where Marijuana has been decriminalized and is easily accessible, so with the theory of Marijuana leading to harder drugs we should be overrun with Drug problems. Not the case, South Australia's drug problem, with regards to Meth and Heroin, is no greater than any other city of Australia....regardless of easy access to Cannabis.

TraumaRUs - sorry to hear about your situation. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for your family.

As for the discussion about things like needle exchange programs - I'm torn over that issue. While I hate to see people catch diseases, I also feel like social programs that cater to addicts almost make drug use look acceptable. I mean, the same government that's supposed to enforce the law also hands out needles to people so they can do more illegal drugs.

Perhaps the message isn't strong enough. Maybe tougher penalties are a better answer. Mandatory minimums have been disputed when a first time offender selling one joint has to go to prison for 10 years, but there must be some fear of punishment. The poster who said they are taking away children of drug addicts - that's about the worst punishment I can imagine dealing out to a parent, but if they are choosing drugs over the well-being of their children should society really let them keep custody?

It's so confusing. The drug epidemic has many more questions than answers.

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Trauma - So sorry to hear about your son. I've seen what drugs have done to my cousin and it is indeed devastating. You will be in my thoughts.

Willow - Thank you for your input into this thread. You have given me a good look at the flipside of the coin.

I got into a discussion with my fiance about the needle exchange program and he is totally against it. He believes that by offering needles to users you are providing them with a means to use. His way of thinking is that if a person is considering using, then they will be more likely to do so if they know they have clean needles available to them. He thinks that if people who are contemplating use don't have clean supplies available, then they will be not as likely to get started. I'm not sure that I agree with him. But his solution was to spend more money on drug educational programs in order to try to prevent from the start, rather than intervening later on.

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