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This is an herbal based weight loss pill. Anybody else seeing patients with severe adverse reactions?... Read More

  1. by   teeituptom
    Howdy yall
    from deep in the heat of texas

    Howdy Peeps, aint seen you around in a while ,,,, glad your still alive and kicking the keyboard
    But I gotta say Peeps Im not blaming ephedra/ ephedrine. You ask for objective data. After all these years in the ER and watching this happen time and time again, whether they are taking metabolife or they are taking diet pills with ephedrine or any of the other multitude of preparations with that stuff in it. I know where the blame lies. I have seen it way too often. And I still am seeing it. When it shows positive in your urine as an amphetamine, that tells you the true nature of it. But also in case scenarios one after another over all these years.Where the history and findings clearly indicate ephedra to be the culprit. And it is not just 40 y/o sedentary lifestyle types you are referring too, but its young and healthy kids who sre being affected the most. Terrible. Ephedra should be taken off the over the counter market place. And it should be removed immediately. It as a causative agent has done enough harm over the years.




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  2. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    Hey Tom,

    Showing up in the urine as amphetamine would be enough to have me leaning,but still,12 years with no side-effects while the rest of humanity is drooling like crack whores, makes me wonder if they shouldn't just do a study on me.

    Do you know of any studies?
    Now side-effects of amphetamines is something that can be shown in a study I'm sure.

    Does OTC cold medicine break down to amphetamines?

    If there are so many documented HXs,certainly someone has done an exhaustive study for the grant money. Looks like easy pickins.
    You of course have made your observations based on what you have seen and I am making them based on what I have. I work on the supply side and also witness refunds based on side effects. I only have anecdotal evidence myself and that's not good enough.
  3. by   Rustyhammer
    But the REAL question is...will it make the fat go away?
    -Russell
  4. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    If you don't eat like I do probably!:chuckle

    All they do is raise the demand for energy production. If you fuel that energy with Big Macs instead of bodyfat then you are just getting a buzz.

    That's why I take them.....buzzzzzz..........buzzzzzzzzz.:chuckle
  5. by   mario_ragucci
    When you say a chemical can "raise the demand for energy production", all I can do is behold and imagine how that can happen. In this case, does energy=ATP? Or does energy mean feeling like being active?

    This may seem silly, but I thought there was a difference between the fat in a BigMac and the fat thats in you. Doesn'tthat stuff hafta pass through the liver a bunch of times before it becomes a part of you?

    Plus, I saw this add for [kite-Ah-Zall] that said it prevents food from being absorbed. Like, you could eat all the fat you want, but your body will float it out of you. Is that really true? I wouldn't even feed them to a seagull, because it might harm them, so why would I take them?

    I like my fat, beause, without it, i wouldn't be able to stretch and jump around :-9
  6. by   deadnurse
    No No No I don't take it no more
    I'm tired of waking up on the floor
    No thank you please
    It only makes me sneeze
    Then it makes hard to find the door:chuckle
  7. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    When you say a chemical can "raise the demand for energy production", all I can do is behold and imagine how that can happen. In this case, does energy=ATP? Or does energy mean feeling like being active?
    Yes Mario,energy does =ATP since that's the receptor of the energy that I'm speaking of when I state the definition of metabolism :The sum of all chemical and physical changes that take place within an organism. ATP production is the energy within the electrons in your food ending up in the Krebs cycle or fermentation. Some of this energy is stored in the liver or muscle cells as glycogen however ,your cells also use fats and proteins to make ATP I don't remember where you get the stored proteins(amino acids stored in the liver?) right off the top of my head,but believe me I can show you exactly where the stored fat is!

    I really couldn't tell you the exact mechanism of how ephedrine stimulates these chemical reactions above your basal metabolism,but it does create a greater need for that end result which is ATP................................once you are using stored fat for that kreb's cylcle,then you may call it a "fat burner".

    This may seem silly, but I thought there was a difference between the fat in a BigMac and the fat thats in you. Doesn'tthat stuff hafta pass through the liver a bunch of times before it becomes a part of you?
    Your body doesn't need fat to store the enrgy in the Big Mac as subcutaneos fat deposits,although it will process that. A Big Mac has more calories than you can utilize in the "sum of all energy" part,some of that gets stored as subcutaneous fat.

    What I'm saying by that is,if you raise the basal metabolic rate and you just consume enough calories to cover the rise in energy production,then all you're doing is processing the energy in the food and not facilitating a need for the utilization of stored energy.

    That last item sounds like the main ingredient is Chitosan,a marine fiber processed from the exoskeleton of anthropods(shellfish). Studies have shown that it does bind some fat in your food ,but so what,your body can still store energy as subcutaneous fat from other sources. It's very important to point out in stating this that in can't do anything about stored fat because your body would rather use the sugars in the food anyway. It would be helpful in someone that's trying to control cholesterol and can't seem to take care of themselves by ingesting the right foods in the first place.

    Does that cover it Mario?

    Catch me before I start cramming for the next exam!!
  8. by   DebsZoo
    alrighty then...........after reading this thread, and having a severe headache from stacker3 capsules (just bought them last week, took them 3 days and everytime had a bad headache), i threw them away.
    i had taken metabolife, with no side effects.
    since all the info here, i have decided to stop taking either.........
    Last edit by DebsZoo on Sep 18, '02
  9. by   micro
    sticking with my ______, my _________, my centrum silver, b complex, and calcium.............
    good day.........
    hehehehehey.
    sorry, in sa mood
    micro
  10. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    Debszoo,
    You might want to check the caffiene source in Stacker 3,it's different from the one in Metabolife. There's also a difference in the way a tablet(Metabolife) and a capsule(Stacker3)digest.

    Whatever the case,I've heard of people getting caffiene headaches from capsules before.
  11. by   ER hippie
    PLEASE do not use this stuff!!!! My ex-fiance had 2, yes 2 miscarriageswhile taking it, and the obgyn could find no other reason!!!! If you want to lose wieght, eat less and walk more. It worked for me!
  12. by   mario_ragucci
    Peeps McAuthur - I would bow all the way to the ground to my belly button to you, for you put a complex question of mine into a chunk of concepts I can understand. Now I am forever humble to you, and am forever in your debt. Yours is the post I can re-read until I understand this flow. YOU=a great person/RN. Thank you Peeps McAuthur
  13. by   JMP
    Peeps

    Have you looked into CLA as a fat burner? Conjealed Linolic Acid.

    Your body will use sugar for energy first, fat second. I do NOT eat sugar or highly refined foods for that reason. My carbs come from salad, berries, certain veggies.

    I eat protein with every meal. It has changed by life. No kidding.

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