Magnet Status And Adn Nurses ** Not Another Adn Vs Bsn Thread**

[RENAISSANCE RN]

Hi,

I live in Massachusetts and Grad. ( god willing in May with an ADN). The word on the street in Boston is that the major teaching hospitals are not taking new ADN grads and are only taking BSN's due to MAGNET status that they have aquired or that they want to aquire. For example Mass General has Magnet Status, it now will not hire an ADN nurse as a new grad. Brigham and Beth Israel are trying to get it and are now excluding us. This forces us to stay closer to the community hospitals. Are any other nurses around the country running into this? I thought magnet status was to help us, not exclude us. I am all for furthering my education once I get employed, but I have a family to support that is why I did the 2 year approach.. Please tell me what you are finding where you guys live?

How are people dealing with this issue, should I try to get in as a CNA and then get an RN job from within? Any suggestions?

Terri

[hiddencatRN, BSN, RN]

Hi,

I live in Massachusetts and Grad. ( god willing in May with an ADN). The word on the street in Boston is that the major teaching hospitals are not taking new ADN grads and are only taking BSN's due to MAGNET status that they have aquired or that they want to aquire. For example Mass General has Magnet Status, it now will not hire an ADN nurse as a new grad. Brigham and Beth Israel are trying to get it and are now excluding us. This forces us to stay closer to the community hospitals. Are any other nurses around the country running into this? I thought magnet status was to help us, not exclude us. I am all for furthering my education once I get employed, but I have a family to support that is why I did the 2 year approach.. Please tell me what you are finding where you guys live?

How are people dealing with this issue, should I try to get in as a CNA and then get an RN job from within? Any suggestions?

Terri

Several of the hospitals in Philadelphia are also not hiring ADN nurses anymore. My impression from following the talk on the board from new grads is that this seems common in larger east coast cities.

Can you work as a CNA with an RN license? In some states you can't.

EDIT: Oh jeez, I didn't notice how old this thread was when I replied. I hate when that happens.

[PMFB-RN, RN]

i live in massachusetts and grad. ( god willing in may with an adn). the word on the street in boston is that the major teaching hospitals are not taking new adn grads and are only taking bsn's due to magnet status that they have aquired or that they want to aquire.

*** the word on the street is incorrect. i sat on my hospitals magnet committee during their initial "journey to magnet" and through the re-certification 4 years later. there is nothing about magnet that requires a hospital to hire only bsn prepared rns. that same hospital eventually decided against hiring new grads bsns into the critical care nurse residency for the sicu (still hired them into the residency for picu, micu, picu, er & nicu). they hire adns only with some special exceptions made for bsn grads who have been long time unit employees as cnas.

for example mass general has magnet status, it now will not hire an adn nurse as a new grad. brigham and beth israel are trying to get it and are now excluding us.

*** that may well be but their (in my opinion short sighted) decision not to hire bsns only is unrelated to their magnet certification. i would guess it has far more to do with the oversupply of new grads and they are, likely for the first time in a very long time, in a position to be choosy.

this forces us to stay closer to the community hospitals. are any other nurses around the country running into this? i thought magnet status was to help us, not exclude us. i am all for furthering my education once i get employed, but i have a family to support that is why i did the 2 year approach.. please tell me what you are finding where you guys live?

*** well if it makes you feel any better magnet hospitals are acquiring a reputation as not being good places to work. in particular among critical care types. when one looks at the pay, benefits, nurse autonomy and respect given to nurses at the various hospitals in my area all of the magnet hospitals are at the bottom of the list.

should you land a job in a magnet hospital i suggest you try to be working night shift when their re-certification time comes around. unless you want to be given 3x5 card with the exact answers management wants you to give the surveyors should they ask you a question.

[PMFB-RN, RN]

"magnet status" is a friggen fraud and means absolutely nothing to the day to day practice of the average nurse.

*** i disagree. in my experience magnet certification is an indication that it is likely not a very good place to work as a nurse.

[Turd Ferguson]

Hospitals with magnet status will hire ADN's, make sure you make it very clear that you are currently an ADN but will soon be pursuing your BSN- they like to hear that.