Is marijuana addictive? - page 12

A couple of us were having this discussion tonight. One nurses says no it is not addictive. I said "well I've know some potheads who couldn't stop smoking, couldn't face life without pot, etc." ... Read More

  1. by   yodakelly
    drugs are illegal. kids are doing them. sex is legal. kids are doing it. kids, just like adults, generally do what they want to do, so long as they figure they can get away with it. decisions about having sex, doing drugs, etc. etc. have nothing to do with whether or not marijuiana or other drugs are legal or not; these decisions are the result of years of environment, the way their parents live, their home discipline, their level of confidence, their curiosity, and countless other influences. the war on drugs does not make a difference, nor will it ever. it all boils down to personal decisions, parental/ adult infulences and such. legalizing marijuiana won't make things any worse than they already are with pregnant, high 6th graders. drugs are readily available to anyone who wants them, and i seriously doubt any "war" on them will ever change that. that p-value, as depressing as it may be, really means nothing; the drugs are already illegal and the problems persist. what can you do to fix that? i hate to be defeatist, but IMO: nothing. teach your kids not to have sex and do drugs when they're 12-- that's the closest you will come to a sucessful war on drugs.
  2. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by yodakelly
    teach your kids not to have sex and do drugs when they're 12-- that's the closest you will come to a sucessful war on drugs.
    I agree! Excellent point!

    Sadly though, some parents won't put the bong down long enough to teach these lessons.

    Heather
  3. by   Q.
    Exactly Heather. YodaKelly, I agree with you, but as Heather stated, most parents don't teach these things, or else we wouldn't have this problem, legal or not.

    All we can do is keep up on current research findings and act on those, rather than clinging to sentimental associations from the '60's and doing nothing.
  4. by   Rustyhammer
    I really doubt that kids are having sex and doing drugs at 12!
    Maybe 14 at the youngest but more like 16 or so.
    But 12!?
    They don't know sex and drugs from shinola and wouldn't have a chance even if they did, unless they were unsupervised.
    -Russell
  5. by   Stargazer
    Rusty, took my first toke at 13, and had my first beer shortly thereafter. And I definitely was NOT unsupervised. Just sneaky.

    For what it's worth.
  6. by   yodakelly
    i agree that the parents aren't teaching. i even agree that it's sad and pathetic. i just think it's a way bigger problem than some stupid super bowl commercial can even begin to fix. i have no sentimental associations to the '60's- they were way before my time. i'm not apathetic, i just don't think it's realistic to believe that a commercial is going to undo years of influences toward drugs/ sex and whatever else. if the learning doesn't happen at home, i think it's unlikely to happen at all.
  7. by   Q.
    Originally posted by Stargazer
    Rusty, took my first toke at 13, and had my first beer shortly thereafter. And I definitely was NOT unsupervised. Just sneaky.

    For what it's worth.
    OMG! I read beer as baby and nearly died!
  8. by   Q.
    Originally posted by yodakelly
    i agree that the parents aren't teaching. i even agree that it's sad and pathetic. i just think it's a way bigger problem than some stupid super bowl commercial can even begin to fix. i have no sentimental associations to the '60's- they were way before my time. i'm not apathetic, i just don't think it's realistic to believe that a commercial is going to undo years of influences toward drugs/ sex and whatever else. if the learning doesn't happen at home, i think it's unlikely to happen at all.

    Agreed. But I sure am not going to dismiss the impact the stupid commercial may have on someone, even if it's a parent that decides: "DUH! Maybe I should talk to my kids!"

    Trust me yodakelly, we're on the same page here.
  9. by   Stargazer
    Yeah, that was my first baby. Of course, after 9 or 10 they all start to blur together, you know?

    Nope, wait--that's still beers.
  10. by   Q.
    LMAO!
  11. by   yodakelly
    yeah, you are right: perhaps it will do some good to someone out there.

    i think i'm too leftist, "people are gonna do it anyhow, so make it legal and make some money" to find use in those ads. most of my experiences w/ pot have shown it to be pretty benign. 'course if i had kids to worry about, maybe i'd feel differently. imo, sex is more dangerous (and more addictive?! ) than marijuana by far though.
  12. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by Rustyhammer
    I really doubt that kids are having sex and doing drugs at 12!
    Then I'm assuming the 12 year old patients I have on a semi regular basis are all products of immaculate conceptions? And their lengthy drug histories written in imaginary ink in their charts?

    Perhaps things are a little different in the rest of the world than they are on your mountain.

    Heather
  13. by   Rustyhammer
    I may be totally off (and probably am).
    It just kinda blows my mind of a 12 year old having a baby!
    We have taught our kids about sex early on (like 6 or 7) and keep on reinforcing the idea that bad choices can indeed mess up your life.
    As far as drugs are concerned we try to teach about that too but I have to admit there are some drugs that I know nothing about and I figure they are not around much anyway. Crack is one of these drugs.
    They have asked me about pot and I have been honest and truthful about it regarding what is does and how it is etc...
    My kids have talked to us about all these things and ask questions. They have told us about the senior in High school who had a baby (big scandal) and it was a good oppourtunity to talk about why sex isn't a great idea right now.
    -Russell

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