I think I'm done with nursing. - page 5

I've had a tough few weeks of self-reflection. My mind has gone back and forth over my preferred career path, and, ultimately, I think I'm going to bow out gracefully. I am a career-change RN.... Read More

  1. Visit  gcupid profile page
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    Quote from Vishwamitr
    Dear VICEDRN, In my hospital, nurses have to do the in-take, get approval from insurance companies (which can take anywhere from 30 minutes to 6 hours), transfer patients out, arrange for follow-up appointments, and arrange for transportation (cab, or ambulance, etc.) They never taught us that in nursing school about 2 decades ago. Is it in the curriculum now?
    That would drive me crazy. I resent those particular roles, but not because I feel I'm above those duties. Nurses all ready have so much on their plate no matter what specialty it seems, u mean to tell me you can't find one person in this economy willing to help. It doesn't require a college education to do a lot of the things dumped on us. Hire a few workers around minimum wage and watch how much money that it saves in the long run. I'm pretty sure staff turn over will decrease.
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  3. Visit  Orion81 profile page
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    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    We? Who is we? You are a nursing student. Have you even worked as a nurse's aid? I worked as a sitter for fifteen months and now have two jobs as a PCA (nurse's aid), and let me tell you, nurses have HARD jobs. The TV is broken? Ask the nurse. Wrong food tray? Complain to the nurse. I have chest pain? Talk to the nurse. So much falls onto the nurse, even issues that are not relating to nursing practice, but because healthcare has become a business, nurses are forced to become super nurses and do anything and everything to get great patient satisfaction ratings.Until you have worked out in the field as a nurse or have had lots of healthcare experience working closely with nurses like I have, you are in no position to really comment about the state of nursing. Sorry.
    Lol. I really really wanted to word my comment this way, but decided to hold back a little. I completely agree with you. I too was a sitter and PCT so I knew what I was getting myself into as far as patient and family attitudes and unrealistic expectations from management. However, so many students in my school never worked health care, and I just shook my head sometimes thinking 'they have no idea what they are in for.'
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  4. Visit  HM-8404 profile page
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    Quote from gcupid
    That would drive me crazy. I resent those particular roles, but not because I feel I'm above those duties. Nurses all ready have so much on their plate no matter what specialty it seems, u mean to tell me you can't find one person in this economy willing to help. It doesn't require a college education to do a lot of the things dumped on us. Hire a few workers around minimum wage and watch how much money that it saves in the long run. I'm pretty sure staff turn over will decrease.
    A friend that was an RT told me a while back she went back to school for Radiology because so much of the RT's job was taken from them and given to RN's. She said some of the treatments that were the domain of RT is now done by RN's. She said at first it was great not to have to run all shift. After a while they noticed they were running again because there were now fewer RT's in the hospital.
  5. Visit  SionainnRN profile page
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    Quote from VICEDRN
    I hear ya! Sat in the staff meeting the other day and listened to the manager heap praise on a nurse who "took the initiative" to clean a room when the housekeeper had disappeared. Again. When the manager started in about how we can all take more initiative, I mentally added it to the list of idiotic jobs I do that really someone else is getting paid for: answering phones,administering breathing treatments, social work stuff, etc. I thought nursing will always be a hell hole because rns are a glutton for punishment. They refuse to advance themselves. They insist on having the lowest standard of education possible in health care and are proud of it! Started my applications to grad school. Can't wait to put bedside behind me.
    I'm feel quite sorry for your coworkers. It sounds like you are one of those people who go around saying "that's not my job" instead of helping. I'm by no means a glutton for punishment but if I just discharged someone and have a free sec you bet your hiney I'm cleaning that room! I love my housekeepers and am more than willing to help them out. That's part of being a good thoughtful employee.
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  6. Visit  kdavispn profile page
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    Quote from VICEDRN
    I hear ya! Sat in the staff meeting the other day and listened to the manager heap praise on a nurse who "took the initiative" to clean a room when the housekeeper had disappeared. Again. When the manager started in about how we can all take more initiative, I mentally added it to the list of idiotic jobs I do that really someone else is getting paid for: answering phones,administering breathing treatments, social work stuff, etc. I thought nursing will always be a hell hole because rns are a glutton for punishment. They refuse to advance themselves. They insist on having the lowest standard of education possible in health care and are proud of it! Started my applications to grad school. Can't wait to put bedside behind me.
    Lol!!!
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  7. Visit  kdavispn profile page
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    Quote from VICEDRN

    No, they don't teach it. For the record, t bothers me more to do a job someone else is already getting paid and isn't doing then to do something that no one is doing for patient and I haven't been trained to do.
    My thoughts exactly...
  8. Visit  Underoo profile page
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    I'm sorry to hear of your situation. I am also frustrated with nursing in general, but I keep telling myself there's light at the end of the tunnel. I started on a small Med-Surg unit in the Southeast. I didn't make good money, I worked my butt off, and honestly I didn't learn a whole lot. I moved to the Northwest where I jumped back into Med-Surg in a larger hospital. Wow. I've learned SO much.. but I still hate my job for the most part. There are many positive aspects of nursing.. Look at how many lives you have influenced, how many lives you may have saved. You may be the only positive person they ever meet. You may be the only person who's ever cared for them and shown them compassion. Those things are what get me up in the morning.. It's not the money, or the absence of "thata girl!"s, or the fact that my bladder, back, and feet ALWAYS hurt, or that I go home feeling defeated more than successful.. It's the little things that keep me in nursing. I completely understand why you want out. Some days I do too. Just make sure you weigh all of your options first. Make sure you've tried new things, new places. You may be surprised to find that something you never anticipated is the right fit for you. If you haven't already, try to find a seasoned nursing friend that you can go to for advice. It helps to talk to someone who's worked in many areas of nursing. Good luck to you. I hope you find the right fit.
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  9. Visit  HealthyNurse profile page
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    I didn't read this entire thread, just the original post and a few comments. How long have you been working as a peds home health nurse? It seems a little silly to give up on nursing altogether when you've only had one nursing job. I despised my first 2 RN jobs in acute care (blah, no one could pay me enough to go back to the bedside), until I fell into home health, which was my niche in nursing. I ended up going back to school for a master's degree and now I don't do any direct patient care. I have a full-time job that I absolutely love and I also own my own business on the side. The point being that there are tons of ways to use your nursing degree. Yes, you may need to put in a little bit more time and get the "experience" and you may be better off if you go back to school to get a BSN eventually, but maybe that is just part of the investment that you have to put into making it a career instead of a job. I spent a fortune on my master's degree, but I can't say that I regret it because it has opened up a whole new world of opportunities for me. Nursing is what you make it.
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  10. Visit  VICEDRN profile page
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    Quote from SionainnRN

    I'm feel quite sorry for your coworkers. It sounds like you are one of those people who go around saying "that's not my job" instead of helping. I'm by no means a glutton for punishment but if I just discharged someone and have a free sec you bet your hiney I'm cleaning that room! I love my housekeepers and am more than willing to help them out. That's part of being a good thoughtful employee.
    Don't feel badly for my coworkers because I refuse to spend my entire shift doing their jobs for them. If I have a free second, I'm going to pee and maybe eat something. I might even go find a spot to take a few deep breaths and recenter so I can be emotionally present for my patients as a nurse. Because that's what i am in fact employed to do, be a nurse, not a housekeeper, not a tv repair person, it person, transporter, pharm aid, or resp therapist.

    I love the housekeepers too. They're often good people to be around but lazy as all get out often enough and that doesn't make it my job to their job.

    Thank you for proving my point though! Nurses will always be wallowing in it. Do you see anybody trying to do our jobs for us? Rushing to assist you? The rt? The md? The mid level? Nope, didn't think so. That's how you get ahead. By doing your job well. Not half butting it so you can do other people's jobs for them.
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    Quote from SionainnRN

    I'm feel quite sorry for your coworkers. It sounds like you are one of those people who go around saying "that's not my job" instead of helping. I'm by no means a glutton for punishment but if I just discharged someone and have a free sec you bet your hiney I'm cleaning that room! I love my housekeepers and am more than willing to help them out. That's part of being a good thoughtful employee.
    Ps. I don't say anything about it! Just keep my mouth shut, keep smiling nodding and studying for the gre! Ain't no saving you people from yourselves. I've tried being outspoken. The housekeeper hides her bucket in the back closet, if you're asking. :-)
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  12. Visit  SionainnRN profile page
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    Quote from VICEDRN

    Don't feel badly for my coworkers because I refuse to spend my entire shift doing their jobs for them. If I have a free second, I'm going to pee and maybe eat something. I might even go find a spot to take a few deep breaths and recenter so I can be emotionally present for my patients as a nurse. Because that's what i am in fact employed to do, be a nurse, not a housekeeper, not a tv repair person, it person, transporter, pharm aid, or resp therapist.

    I love the housekeepers too. They're often good people to be around but lazy as all get out often enough and that doesn't make it my job to their job.

    Thank you for proving my point though! Nurses will always be wallowing in it. Do you see anybody trying to do our jobs for us? Rushing to assist you? The rt? The md? The mid level? Nope, didn't think so. That's how you get ahead. By doing your job well. Not half butting it so you can do other people's jobs for them.
    Actually yes, where I work we work as a team to help each other and the pt. I work in a busy ER and have had the docs, cna's, and housekeepers bust their asses to help me and keep the flow going. You have such a narrow view of what your "job" is. No wonder no one tries to help you out.
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    Quote from SionainnRN

    Actually yes, where I work we work as a team to help each other and the pt. I work in a busy ER and have had the docs, cna's, and housekeepers bust their asses to help me and keep the flow going. You have such a narrow view of what your "job" is. No wonder no one tries to help you out.
    Be careful how much judge people you meet on an Internet board. You don't know the first thing about working with me or at the facilities I have been at. If I wanted to judge you, I would guess that you are that needy slow poke nurse that everyone helps because you are so slow the patients would never get anything unless everyone on staff helps you! (This is another way that nurses behave like codependents) But I don't know that you are, maybe you just have a nice job where everyone helps out.

    For the most part, I draw all my own labs though we have a phleb, do breathing treatments or o2 as needed because it is the best thing for my patients. If tv people refuse to come, I even trouble shoot their tv but frankly, I remain aware that these are someone else's responsibilities. For the record, the phlebs love me as do the rts and the housekeepers.

    I know enough to recognize a losing battle when I see one and I say nothing but plan my future. It's sad because again, nurses discredit themselves. Rushing through charting to clean a room so the next patient can be in it. What's left is a sloppy chart and proof that we are overpaid housekeepers yet people like you like it like that. Refusing to advance the profession.
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  14. Visit  VICEDRN profile page
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    Quote from SionainnRN

    Actually yes, where I work we work as a team to help each other and the pt. I work in a busy ER and have had the docs, cna's, and housekeepers bust their asses to help me and keep the flow going. You have such a narrow view of what your "job" is. No wonder no one tries to help you out.
    Ps. Nobody can help you medicate your patients or do your charts. Not the mds, the cna or housekeepers so I doubt these people are doing much more than their jobs. Sad that you think they are "helping" you by doing their jobs.

    I get and give plenty of help to nurses that I work with because again, I am a nurse and that's what I get paid to do and my loyalty is to help other nurses with nursing specific activities. This is the most productive use of my time, not cleaning rooms because the housekeeper is having a smoke with her buddies for the next 40 minutes or so.
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