how do we change nurses opinions on male nurses? - page 5

i guess this kinda goes along with my other post. I our discussion the topic came up that some older nurses do not seem to believe males should or can be nurses. especially in the ob areas. how could... Read More

  1. by   imenid37
    Whe I was a teenager, I volunteered at a local hospital and one of my favourite nurses to work w/ was a guy who worked in Peds ICU. He was always very nice about explaining things to me and would point out things I might be interested in, etc. This was back in the early 1980's, so a guy in Peds was a little unusual. I will always have a warm spot in myheart for him because he was one of several really exceptional nurses I met while volunteering who inspired me to be a nurse. Though, I am female, he inspired me because he was a great person who shared his love forwhat he did w/ me. It wasn't a male/female thing.

    I think when we count our sons and brothers out of nursing, we are making a mistake and narrowing the pool of talent we should be drawing from. I have met a number of my daughters' teenage male friends who just wouldn't pursue nursing because "it's a female job." I tell them they'd be shocked at how physical, highly technical, and intellectually challenging it can be. A lot of their dads would be upset if their sons chose this career path. I just don't get it. Since when is doing something worthwhile to help others unmanly. Why is our occupation "off limits" for guys while EMT is considered acceptable? To me nursing is no more male/female than being a teacher or an accountant. If more men in nursing means better salaries for the rest of us too, I can only see this as yet another positive.
  2. by   lanilpn
    i think that "male" nurses are great. Unfortunantly there are not enough in the nursing field. One of the male nurses that i worked with as a cna inspired me to be a "female" nurse. I think that if anyone has a problem with "male" nurses they need to wake up-we are all nurses . The education is not different! I love nurses :kiss
  3. by   Joe Hill
    First, let's be clear, I am a Man who has chosen Nursing as a profession. I do not allow fellow Nurses or Pts to prefix the label "Male". My credentials are the same as any other nurse.

    Second I do not allow other Nurses or Pts to think that I have nurses training. I have a nursing education. Dogs are trained.

    I suggest the first stategy to all men in Nursing, do not allow yourself to be labeled. And I suggest that all nurses support this.
    Also all nurses should be proud that they have an extensive education and demand that others recognize this also!
  4. by   Agnus
    Last edit by Agnus on Dec 3, '03
  5. by   lalaxton
    Well said Joe!
  6. by   icuabbie
    It has been enlightening to read the posts on this subject. I'm a 44 y.o. critical care nurse and have worked with alot of male nurses. The problems we have on our unit is that the majority of male rns are very young, many using the icu as a stepping stone to nurse anesthesist school and most work nights because of the differential and the decreased work load. I don't have a problem with male nurses unless they do a substandard job on the unit. Most are technically good but lack a certain professionalism and maturity and sense of real empathy and caring toward the pts. and family. Many do as little as they have to then sit down and read, watch tv or engage in immature boy pranks like rubber band fights. I have to admit that in my experience the majority of male nurses that I have worked with are mediocre. I challenge those of you out there to be a good role model and put your pts needs first. The secret to being a REAL NURSE is to always put your patients need before your own and take any extra time you have to give to your team, patients and their families.
  7. by   CCU NRS
    Originally posted by icuabbie
    It has been enlightening to read the posts on this subject. I'm a 44 y.o. critical care nurse and have worked with alot of male nurses. The problems we have on our unit is that the majority of male rns are very young, many using the icu as a stepping stone to nurse anesthesist school and most work nights because of the differential and the decreased work load. I don't have a problem with male nurses unless they do a substandard job on the unit. Most are technically good but lack a certain professionalism and maturity and sense of real empathy and caring toward the pts. and family. Many do as little as they have to then sit down and read, watch tv or engage in immature boy pranks like rubber band fights. I have to admit that in my experience the majority of male nurses that I have worked with are mediocre. I challenge those of you out there to be a good role model and put your pts needs first. The secret to being a REAL NURSE is to always put your patients need before your own and take any extra time you have to give to your team, patients and their families.
    Notice NO mass generalization such as all males are just in it for the $$$$ All nurses male or female should follow the advice of icuabbie.

    I see these same behaviors from females and yes plenty of mediocre nurses that as you mentioned do the least amount possible are sitting around reading, or gabbing, working nightshift because of differential and for some unknown reason feeling that it is less work load. Yes the doctors mostly visit during business hours and yes there are more orders and procedures to carry out but that is why night shift is expected in most cases to perform ADLs linen changes and bathing, which I see my share of females neglecting as often if not more than males.

    If you want to get me started just mention Smoking nurses (either gender) that seem to have time to go smoke 5/6 times a shift but then complain that they can't get everything done

    And I personnally have never met a male that walks around all day every day complaining about everything that needs to be done and constantly whining that they just can't do it ALL! I hear this from females approx. one in ten carries this horrendous burden of being the only hard working nurse on the planet.

    My original point is that each person is an individual each has and was taught their own work ethic and each shows affection, compassion and empathy in their own way. Mass generalization such as Males only got into nursing when the $$$$ became significant is like saying all Jews should die refence Hitler, and any person not caucasion should be hung reference KKK. Do you think a female surgeon goes to any less schooling than a male surgeon. Are all female surgeons incompitent. NO that is a mass generalization!
  8. by   Agnus
    CCU RN well put.
  9. by   Joe Hill
    Originally posted by icuabbie
    It has been enlightening to read the posts on this subject. I'm a 44 y.o. critical care nurse and have worked with alot of male nurses. The problems we have on our unit is that the majority of male rns are very young, many using the icu as a stepping stone to nurse anesthesist school and most work nights because of the differential and the decreased work load. I don't have a problem with male nurses unless they do a substandard job on the unit. Most are technically good but lack a certain professionalism and maturity and sense of real empathy and caring toward the pts. and family. Many do as little as they have to then sit down and read, watch tv or engage in immature boy pranks like rubber band fights. I have to admit that in my experience the majority of male nurses that I have worked with are mediocre. I challenge those of you out there to be a good role model and put your pts needs first. The secret to being a REAL NURSE is to always put your patients need before your own and take any extra time you have to give to your team, patients and their families.
    It seems to me that you are saying that one must be a woman to be a REAL NURSE. First, in most hospitals day position openings are the exception, so most new Nurses begin their careers working evenings and nights not for the shift differential or the so called decreased work load (I never found this in any night position I ever worked). You also seem to be saying that no one should have advanced career goals. I wish more nurses would be interested in advancing their careers, then whole Profession would benefit. As far as pranks, I remember several woman in a CCU I worked in having mucomyst wars at 3AM. I never felt that distracted from their pt care.

    I also remember in the 70's the women who were moving into medicine being disparaged by the Docs and residents. They were only there to catch a husband (I heard this about women Nurses also) and would leave the profession when they became pregnant. As the father of three daughters, I only wish I had known enough to speak up then.

    What I have seen in my career is that most experienced Nurses have little desire to mentor new Nurses, be they women or men. Our profession has a tendency to devour our young. As a REAL NURSE you have the responsibility and a duty to be a role model to your new Nurses men or women. If you don't accept mentoring as part of your a REAL NURSE role then, sexism is alive and well in the practice of nursing in Twenty First Century America.
  10. by   nursemary9
    Hi

    I don' t know about changing peoples minds about males in nursing.
    I do know that I have been a nurse for almost 40 yrs. I have worked with my share of nurses who are male. They are as professional, caring and empathetic as there female counterparts; As with female nurses, there are the good and the bad & I really don't think it has anything to do with gender.

    I have worked the night shift for the last 27-28 years and I certainly never had time for play. Yes, we have slack periods on occasion; but generally at the hospital I work at, treatments are around the clock as well as meds. The only thing we don't do is give our patients a meal. I really resent when people infer that the night shift doesn't "do" anything. There are fewer resource
    people available and also fewer bodies. My experience is that you better have the nurses who can make quick, well-thought out decisions on your night shift; At night, you better be into critical thinking! and you better know your stuff.
    I don't know ANYONE--male or female who works nights for the differential!!

    We need GOOD nurses!! I don't care weather they are men or women and I don;t care what unit they work on.
  11. by   essy752002
    I BELIEVE MALE NURSES NEED TO BE APPLAUDED INSTEAD OF SCORNED FOR MAKING THAT STEP TO BECOME NURSES. ITS BAD ENOUGH THAT THEY GET FLACK FROM OTHER PEOPLE. WE NEED TO LIFT THEM UP AND ENCOURAGE MORE OF THEM TO BECOME NURSES.:kiss KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MEN
  12. by   purplemania
    When things get busy or tough, which is fairly often, I forget my co-worker's gender and race and whatever else does not mean "nurse". The men I work with are professional nurses.
  13. by   bedpan
    I am male and not yet a nurse - I am a student nurse

    In my classmates I do not see any male student nurses, nor do I see any female student nurses , I only see student nurses

    And when I graduate and pass my boards I will be not a male nurse, and obviously I will not be a female nurse - I will be a Nurse

    All I can do is be the best possible Nurse I can be and be rightfully proud of it

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