Help! Is this a nursing diagnosis??

1. 0 Hi. I have my Nursing Dx as:
   
   Disturbed thought processes related to Alzheimer's diagnosis
   
   This is sufficient?? I thought that you had to have BLANK related to BLANK.
   
   My teacher says I need to have Disturbed thought processes related to Alzheimer's diagnosis as evidenced by........ as evidenced by WHAT?? Alzheimer's is Alzheimers's. We know the patient has lose of memory, lack of correct responses and so forth... not sure why I need as evidenced by. I did not see this in any other book or textbook and in my other sections of my care plan I go into detail as to what her mental apptitude is. The teacher is trying to help me for a final nursing care plan that has to be done so I am not complaining. I just do not understand. I thought that was sufficient. Your two cents?? Thanks and help!
   
   
   

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   Apr 23, '07 by SuesquatchRN

   Quote from Epona

   We know the patient has lose of memory, lack of correct responses and so forth... not sure why I need as evidenced by.

   Because your teacher wants it. She's going for overkill.
   
   Seriously, I hate care plan stuff. It seems self-evident to me that an immobile stoke patient will be turned Q2H so he doesn't get bedsores, but it needs to be "Risk for impaired skin integrity" 2 "immobility" r/t CVA. It does make for standard documentation and a nursing taxonomy.
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   Apr 23, '07 by ZootRN

   They were telling us in nursing school we cannot use medical diagnosis for "related to" part. So instead of Alzheimer should be something like "altered mental status" or something like that, evidenced by memory loss, delusional ideas and whatever else you have. Using medical diagnosis, you are passing a buck to medicine instead of concentrating on nursing part and what you can do about it.
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   Apr 23, '07 by cardiacRN2006

   Quote from Epona

   My teacher says I need to have Disturbed thought processes related to Alzheimer’s diagnosis as evidenced by........ as evidenced by WHAT?? Alzheimer's is Alzheimers's. We know the patient has lose of memory, lack of correct responses and so forth... not sure why I need as evidenced by.

   
   Because it's not a complete nursing diagnosis without the "as evidenced by" unless it is an at Risk diagnosis.
   
   How do you know the thought process is disturbed? Give the teacher some examples...
   
   
   Also, like the PP said, you cannot use medical diagnosis here.
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   Apr 23, '07 by TazziRN

   "As evidenced by repetitive questioning and necessity for frequent orientation by staff."
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   Apr 23, '07 by futurecnm

   At my school, we can't use medical dx so I wouldn't be able to use Alzheimers. I would use altered mental statues AEB loss of memory etc etc (what you had listed above). That is just the format.
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   Apr 23, '07 by crissrn27

   Take it from a former care plan nurse..........NO medical dx. And you do need the "as evidenced by" part for a actual nursing dx (as opposed to a risk for dx) like this
   Disturbed thought process r/t impaired memory as evidenced by frequent repeated questions, pt not oriented to time or place, and frequent yelling out. then go on to list your goals and orders. In real life your coworkers may never look at this but you can bet who ever does your surveys will.
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   Apr 23, '07 by Mommy TeleRN

   the related to is the etiology - WHAT is causing disturbed thought processes? What is the Alzheimers doing to the brain? You could do something like
   Disturbed Thought Processing r/t biological changes of brain functioning AEB ....
   The AEB is your signs/symptoms. You should go to your assessment for this part. What did you assess in the patient that demonstrated they were having a disturbed thought process? For instance in a Schizophrenic pt it might be delusions that someone is out to harm them/comments of paranoia.
   
   For another nurse (in theory) to act on your careplan they have to know WHY they patient is having the nursing dx so they can appropriately intervene... for instance if it's impaired skin integrity... why? Do they have an incision? immobility (pressure ulcer)? diarrhea?
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    Apr 23, '07 by TazziRN

    Oh.........and at the end, under your "result" column, do NOT write "goal met." I've seen countless students do this and not understand why they had to redo the care plan. Write out how the goal was met and how you know the goal was met.
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    Apr 23, '07 by middleageNP

    Quote from Epona

    Hi. I have my Nursing Dx as:
    
    Disturbed thought processes related to Alzheimer’s diagnosis
    
    This is sufficient?? I thought that you had to have BLANK related to BLANK.
    
    My teacher says I need to have Disturbed thought processes related to Alzheimer’s diagnosis as evidenced by........ as evidenced by WHAT?? Alzheimer's is Alzheimers's. We know the patient has lose of memory, lack of correct responses and so forth... not sure why I need as evidenced by. I did not see this in any other book or textbook and in my other sections of my care plan I go into detail as to what her mental apptitude is. The teacher is trying to help me for a final nursing care plan that has to be done so I am not complaining. I just do not understand. I thought that was sufficient. Your two cents?? Thanks and help!
    
    

    
    
    Would a nurse's pocket guide help?
    

    Last edit by middleageNP on Apr 23, '07

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