head nurse interview

jnette, ASN, EMT-I · Sep 9, 2003

Be careful, Ren. Be WISE. You've been disappointed too many times in the past.. I'd hate to see you get the shaft once again.

Do what feels right in your gut. Truly wish you all the best.

Hugs to you. :kiss

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Sep 9, 2003

Run from that managers job, sense that no mater what you do won't sattisy them. Up to you if you take the afternoon position. Just wonder how much mandation going on in this unit. Expext at leat a rough couble of months.

I'm just getting out from under an availance at my position due to new computer system and laptops for visiting RN's being implimented ---STILL DON"T HAVE COMPUTER BUGS WORKED OUT! I knew the facility and have same staff with new part timer's and now one year latter able to relax. Expect at least 6 months of sleepless nights, I'm affraid.

What is your GUT saying??? Listen to it. No ne else has taken this position so maybe starting at a staff level would be in your best interest, at least financial reward for your time, talent and troubles.

renerian, BSN, RN · Sep 9, 2003

Jemb, karen and Jnette,

I talked with the unit manager director today and turned down the position due to the changes at every turn I make without even haven started yet. Needless to say they were angry at me and told me I could no longer have the afternoon position so I guess it was meant to be. I can say I prayed hard for several weeks and interviewed at other places. I did get a call for an SDC position and I accepted that to start Friday.

Thanks everyone and I sure learned a lesson about long interviews and asking more questions. Even though I asked a ton I did not get the correct information I needed.

Everyone has been very helpful and kind to me and I appreciate your all sharing your wisdom with me.

Karen going live is a trip isn't it? I did help one agency do that as a consultant and your right there are always bugs. Good luck with that venture. In the long run the nurses will mostly like it. I know in my experience I did lose a few nurses only because they were intimidated with computers. I am glad I no longer have that problem.

Take care everyone,

susan/renerian

llg, PhD, RN · Sep 9, 2003

I am sorry to read that things continued to go downhill with this particular job, Renerian ... but happy to see that you are getting out of it before you got in too deep.

May your next attempt at finding a good fit work out much better for you,

llg

renerian, BSN, RN · Sep 9, 2003

Thanks LLG. I am happy to start a new job on Friday.

renerian

Gardengal · Sep 10, 2003

Renerian,

I am glad that you made a positive decision to move on. It was a real warning that they kept making additional changes and demands on you, before you even started.

My last post was trying to be positive because it sounded like they had met your requirements. They obviouslyweren't willing to do that and I'm glad that you will not be working with them. They obviously are not an organization with whom you would wish to pursue a career.

Good Luck to you! I admire your professional work ethic and integrity. I am sure that you will find a position eventually which meets your ideals. Enjoy your new position as you reflect on this issue and move on. Kudos to you for being true to yourself and your profession by not allowing yourself to be placed in such a situation.

Gardengal

renerian, BSN, RN · Sep 10, 2003

Wow gardengal that was a very thoughtful post. Thank you.

renerian

Agnus · Sep 10, 2003

I was feeling for you. I know how frustrating and discouraging it is when you jump through all the hoops and think you have found a great job only to find out it is straight from you know where. It is a very lonely feeling too.

So when you said that you have acccepted another position I felt relieved for you.

Interesting how they said you could not have the afternoon job when you turned down that one. Hmm. Me thinks they realized that you were no one they could trample on in any position.

renerian, BSN, RN · Sep 10, 2003

Thanks angus. It is very agonizing. I think I am down now too as I loved my job I was in and was getting in a groove. I hate lay offs. I do feel lost and loney. Wah wah right. I am trying to pick myself up off the floor but it is so hard.

Thanks for caring,

susan/renerian

Agnus · Sep 10, 2003

Keep your head up kid. Ya done good. ((((hug))))

renerian, BSN, RN · Sep 10, 2003

Thanks again angus. You are very kind. I will remember that.

renerian

rstewart · Sep 11, 2003

I refrained from commenting earlier because the original poster was so excited about the position and the replies were understandably supportive-------that said, I knew almost immediately it was going to be a major disaster.

How did you know, one might ask? Superior intelligence? Psychic abilities? Not even close. Just the opposite in fact. I am without a doubt the #1 Sh.t Magnet Nursing Job Champion of the United States.......maybe even of the World. I've learned the hard way.

The first clue was the abnormally high number of interviews. Multiple interviews have nothing to do with the hiring process, per se, as the powers that be are going to choose who they want. Input from below means nothing; in fact, negative feedback is often perceived as a positive indicator that the candidate is a good "fit" with the mangement team. But the interviews DO serve an important purpose: They offer a means to shift blame to others when the hiring decision "goes wrong". And the powers that be have every reason to believe it will go wrong because a) it's gone wrong before and b) they know they will not permit changes that may have contributed to a. The only "new" ingredient will be--- you.

Actually, this was a no-brainer. Most managements of this type at least pretend to offer the resourses needed to succeed. But not these folks.

I was soooooooo glad to see the happy ending. I was worried that the management compromise might have been enough to prolong the inevitable.