Gardasil: has your daughter had this vaccine? - page 4

My daughters' pediatrician is encouraging all female patients to receive this vaccine. I have mixed feelings about this. I do not want my girls to get cervical cancer from HPV, but in 15 yrs from... Read More

  1. by   edgwow
    I believe it should be mandatory. It will help to decrease the # of abnormal paps from HPV and the cervical cancer rate. There was an uproar when the chickenpox vaccine came out. Now when kids get chicken pox, they present differently and far less sick. My concern would be the possibility of mutation of the HPV to something that Gardisil can not cover adequately.
  2. by   PeachPie
    Quote from edgwow
    I believe it should be mandatory. It will help to decrease the # of abnormal paps from HPV and the cervical cancer rate. There was an uproar when the chickenpox vaccine came out. Now when kids get chicken pox, they present differently and far less sick. My concern would be the possibility of mutation of the HPV to something that Gardisil can not cover adequately.
    I'm all for everybody getting it, but I don't think that it sould be federally mandated. If the government backs it, then Merck will no longer be responsible for negative outcomes. Drug companies are already buying laws and lobbying. I hear the rustle of billions of dollars lining Merck's pockets, along with some metaphorical 30 pieces of silver used to gain this power.
  3. by   marilynmom
    Quote from edgwow
    I believe it should be mandatory. It will help to decrease the # of abnormal paps from HPV and the cervical cancer rate. There was an uproar when the chickenpox vaccine came out. Now when kids get chicken pox, they present differently and far less sick. My concern would be the possibility of mutation of the HPV to something that Gardisil can not cover adequately.
    Have you looked at some of the newer research about the chickenpox vaccine?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/15/he...syahoo&emc=rss
    "And when vaccinated children were infected, they tended to be sicker, probably because they were older." It really takes quite some time before we really know the efficacy, long term effects until QUITE some time. Of course comparing chickenpox to HPV is like comparing apples to oranges, but I hope my point is still valid when it comes to vaccines and efficacy, long term effects, etc.

    I agree, I do worry about the other HPV strains mutating-- I have read some concerns about the meningitis vaccine and that already happening. That is an excellent point.
  4. by   Country PICU
    My daughter received her first shot 2 weeks ago. I provided both my daughter and wife with the cdc recommendations and I support vaccinations.
    Go for it.
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    If you google it - you will find many articles regarding the negatives . . .

    It is too soon for me to subject my daughter to this.

    http://www.909shot.com/PressReleases...06gardasil.htm

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=67980

    steph
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Apr 27, '07
  6. by   GoldenLove
    I attended a Merck conference on this vaccine and I will definitely get my daughters vaccinated. I am not sure if I am for or against making it mandatory....I think a lot of people have reservations because it is new...I had many parents on the "fence" about it.
  7. by   dschueler
    No, I wouldn't. I have 2 sons, and both are in college and are virgins and are Christians. I just hate that the states are trying to make it mandatory. If I had a daughter, I would not allow her to get this, as we practice abstinence until married, but 89% of the population won't abstain, so it has to be an individual choice.

    I hate the way some vaccines are forced, and when we were kids, we didn't have 1/2 of the vaccines and when they were little, I actually lied and did not let them have the hepB vaccines, or was it some other one, that was optional because of the correlation of vaccine and autism. I don't like all the foreign chemicals and hormones and vaccines we put in our bodies, but polio, MMR, and other ones I feel are the norm and are good.

    Anyone else?? Good question!!



    Deb
  8. by   queenjean
    Quote from MMW37
    I just wrote a research paper on Gardasil/Cervarix (another vax awaiting FDA approval), so I can clear up a couple of things. They are currently testing Gardasil on men, on my campus actually. It has been shown to be safe so far but they are waiting to see about efficacy. HPV behaves differently in the male body, so there is no guarantee that the same vax will work in men. Also, the only KNOWN side effects are slight fever and pain at the injection site. The vaccine was tested in 22,000 women and they were observed for 5 years. Right now we don't know if there could be a possible rare adverse effect, as 22,000 isn't a lot of people. We also don't know when or if girls who get vaccinated at 12 will need a booster. I think it's a good idea, but I oppose making it mandatory yet.

    When I was doing my research on it a couple of months ago, according to the Merck website, it said it had been tested on something like 9,000 women--where does the 22,000 come from?

    I also want to see if this number jives with your research--from what I could make out on their website, it was tested on 1,100 women under the age of 16. That is what irked me a lot. We've tested it on 1,100 women ages 9-15 and followed them for 5 years-yeah, it must be safe, so let's mandate it for millions of 12 year olds. Nah, we don't know the long term efficacy, nah, we don't know what happens when these women (oh, wait, these are *girls*) start having babies of their own, nah we don't know how this is going to play out in the future, but let's *mandate* it, anyhow.

    I remember being pushed by my youngest daughter's ped to get the rotovirus vaccine, going back and forth with her over, and then it getting pulled from the market 6 months later because it was associated with intestinal issues in infants. If this is mandated, and a problem develops (remember Vioxx?), Merck won't be liable.

    In West Virginia (maybe? or Virginia?) there was a proposal by their governor to make it optional but to offer it for free for all girls under age 18. That is something I could support; allowing them, their parents, and their docs to make the decision, and then making it readily available if they decide to get it.
  9. by   GoldenLove
    Quote from dschueler
    No, I wouldn't. I have 2 sons, and both are in college and are virgins and are Christians. I just hate that the states are trying to make it mandatory. If I had a daughter, I would not allow her to get this, as we practice abstinence until married, but 89% of the population won't abstain, so it has to be an individual choice.

    I hate the way some vaccines are forced, and when we were kids, we didn't have 1/2 of the vaccines and when they were little, I actually lied and did not let them have the hepB vaccines, or was it some other one, that was optional because of the correlation of vaccine and autism. I don't like all the foreign chemicals and hormones and vaccines we put in our bodies, but polio, MMR, and other ones I feel are the norm and are good.

    Anyone else?? Good question!!



    Deb
    While I respect your choice and view...ironically it is MMR that was "speculated" to cause autism. I have been in this debate for years with parents. As far as I know..there has never been sufficient data to establish a link between MMR and autism and because children often exhibit signs of autism around the same time the vaccine is normally given...that adds fuel to the debate. As far as the Gardasil issue, your child can practice abstinence until marriage and have sex on her wedding night and be infected with HPV from her husband who didn't know he was carrying the virus. Unfortunately the statistics of HPV speak for itself...ack! That's scary.
  10. by   TiffyRN
    After much debate; the vaccine will NOT be mandatory.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...cer-shot_N.htm
  11. by   sailgurlie
    I had to write in to share my story... I have been a peds nurse for over 20 years and am pro-vaccine but don't think this vaccine should be mandatory OR even promoted as strongly as it has until it has more of a track record. One of my long time friends lost her daughter to a massive clot 14 days after receiving the first dose of Gardasil. It has not been proven to be the "cause of death" but this 19 y.o. college freshman was very healthy! In fact, was heading out for a run when she collapsed at her dorm! There have been at LEAST 11 deaths so far that are related to this vaccine AND over 3000 side effects reported. You only hear about the sore arm and rash... Please just be well informed and maybe wait until more testing is forced. I don't want anyone else to go through what my friend and her family have if it is avoidable! Thanks!
  12. by   queenjean
    We've recently seen several girls who collapsed within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine (most within 2-8 hours). One has still not completely recovered, the other couple recovered within hours. A daughter of a friend told her mother it was the most painful thing she'd ever experience, and the pain was so intense it made her feel cold and faint. My friend said she witnessed her daughter go pale and become diaphoretic. The pain lasted over 24 hours, though the intensity wore off after a couple of hours. The doc attributed it to the fact that she is a 14 year old girl and was being "dramatic." My friend makes her daughter (who has asthma) receive a flu shot every year, and she recently had her boosters for middle school, and did not have this sort of reaction.

    With my children, I will be waiting and watching. I am not opposed to it, but I do not yet feel secure enough with it to have my own daughters receive it.
  13. by   sailgurlie
    Thanks for your post... 14-15 yo girls DO tend to be dramatic, but I think this bears watching! Please pass this information on as it is not being discussed.

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