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JB CC-RN

37 Posts

Specializes in MICU.

Maybe I missed this in the posts, but did any of the supervisors do an investigation? I would think that if a charge of abuse or 'torture' was made by a family member, someone from the facility would go to the home and invesigate. This to me makes no sense if this was not done.

I did home care several years ago as a CNA. I had worked with this one couple for about 4 months. When the weather started turning warm, she asked me to clean out her basement and garage, beacuse she would like to have a garage sale and wanted me to get everything ready. I politely told her that I was there to care for her husband and not to clean the basement, garage or organize a garage sale. The next day, she called and filed a complaint with my agency stating she felt I had 'mental' problems and requested I did not return. Fortunately, my agency just shuggled it off, especially since I was not the first one she had made the same complaint about.

Get a lawyer, go to the peer review, and defend yourself!!

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted!!

goingnuts

42 Posts

Specializes in nursing homes, home health..
Maybe I missed this in the posts, but did any of the supervisors do an investigation? I would think that if a charge of abuse or 'torture' was made by a family member, someone from the facility would go to the home and invesigate. This to me makes no sense if this was not done.

I did home care several years ago as a CNA. I had worked with this one couple for about 4 months. When the weather started turning warm, she asked me to clean out her basement and garage, beacuse she would like to have a garage sale and wanted me to get everything ready. I politely told her that I was there to care for her husband and not to clean the basement, garage or organize a garage sale. The next day, she called and filed a complaint with my agency stating she felt I had 'mental' problems and requested I did not return. Fortunately, my agency just shuggled it off, especially since I was not the first one she had made the same complaint about.

Get a lawyer, go to the peer review, and defend yourself!!

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted!!

As i said before they have my statement. Nothing i say is going to make any difference.I will just go on pretending I know nothing about any peer review. I just don't think my not going is going to make any difference. I will get a lawyer if I have to go to the board.

christymwinn

143 Posts

Specializes in Everything but L&D and OR.

Going to the review can make a difference. It shows that you care about what is being said about your professionalism and your career. You also will be there to hear ANYTHING that is said about the situation and about you. To hear the info first hand and to be able to "read" the attitudes about those that are making the decisions that will affect your whole career are very important.

I hate to be in confrontational situations of any kind, but if this was me, I would have to be there or I think i would be physicaly ill just over the stress of worrying about it all!!

I strongly encourage you (as with most I see on this post) to go!

Specializes in ICU.

Like a previous poster said, I think it would be silly not to go. By not going you come across as not caring what happens, and they may view it as passivly admiting defeat which could lead to more investigations occuring. I think you are doing a diservice to yourself by not attenting.

lauralassie

224 Posts

wow, I agree with the response that you should get a lawyer sooner rather than later. Everyone is so concerned about law suits these days. Agencies, hospitals and nursing homes are so afraid they are going to be on the evening news, or one of those lawyers that say, "if you or a family member feel you have been abused by a hospice ,give me a call at 1800suealot. or 1800makemerich You could be entitled to compensation !" Be calm and professional during the peer review meeting. be sure to show up and show that you have nothing to hide.(be sure you talk to an lawyer first though)

christymwinn

143 Posts

Specializes in Everything but L&D and OR.

ditto!!!:yeahthat:

goingnuts

42 Posts

Specializes in nursing homes, home health..
wow, I agree with the response that you should get a lawyer sooner rather than later. Everyone is so concerned about law suits these days. Agencies, hospitals and nursing homes are so afraid they are going to be on the evening news, or one of those lawyers that say, "if you or a family member feel you have been abused by a hospice ,give me a call at 1800suealot. or 1800makemerich You could be entitled to compensation !" Be calm and professional during the peer review meeting. be sure to show up and show that you have nothing to hide.(be sure you talk to an lawyer first though)
I really just cannot go to the peer review. I am 300 miles away. Been taking care of my sister who has breast cancer. Had they told me when I got fired I could have made arrangements. I have been here for the last 6 weeks. Didn't know about the review until 2 weeks after I was gone. They have my statement. That will just have to do because there is no way I can make it back in time. If what the wife says makes the difference it would anyway. She changed her story twice in 18 hours. This will make a difference to the board. And since I was unable to get a lawyer I will just have to see what happens. The board will see dispositions of pt. family's that were happy with me. If it comes to that. That will make a difference. I will pray for the best if It comes to that.

christymwinn

143 Posts

Specializes in Everything but L&D and OR.

well, I will hope for the best for you.

goingnuts

42 Posts

Specializes in nursing homes, home health..
Very good advice! In addition I would not send anything via fax but send it via "Certified Mail" and ensure you have copies of everything. Keep the return delivery confirmations. If you already have retained an attorney then let them deal with it from the start. If the employer contacts you, refer them to your attorney and dont say anything to them without your attorney's advice/presence. Take it from someone who has had to deal with the fall out from false claims to BON's as they dont look out for you but for the public safety as thier first concern. They (BON's) dont give a rat's bottom how you come out of it if it does go to boards. If complaints are made they are ultimately obligated to act on that complaint regardless of it's validity. Either way it ends up costing you the aggravation and the $ to prove your innocence over the implied guilt. Unlike the legal system it's not innocent until proven guilty.
i have looked and there are no lawyers that handle this. So nothing I can do about that. Just keep trying. A male nurse I work with went to the board just 5months ago. His was a little more serious than mine. Even tho the pt. complained the board stated there needed to be some prove at least and there wasn't any. Also they made a big deal about the agency waiting to report it. He was real lucky. No lawyer and the Board threw it out. I will make it back in time if I have to go to Austin. ANd just hope for the best. Nothing else I can do.

goingnuts

42 Posts

Specializes in nursing homes, home health..
Maybe I missed this in the posts, but did any of the supervisors do an investigation? I would think that if a charge of abuse or 'torture' was made by a family member, someone from the facility would go to the home and invesigate. This to me makes no sense if this was not done.

I did home care several years ago as a CNA. I had worked with this one couple for about 4 months. When the weather started turning warm, she asked me to clean out her basement and garage, beacuse she would like to have a garage sale and wanted me to get everything ready. I politely told her that I was there to care for her husband and not to clean the basement, garage or organize a garage sale. The next day, she called and filed a complaint with my agency stating she felt I had 'mental' problems and requested I did not return. Fortunately, my agency just shuggled it off, especially since I was not the first one she had made the same complaint about.

Get a lawyer, go to the peer review, and defend yourself!!

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted!!

I sure wish I could. And if they had told me when they fired me there would be no problem. But I am 300 miles away and a family member needs me to stay with her a little longer. There are no lawyers that handle this sort of thing. At least I haven't found any. So after I have done the best I can there is nothing more I can do. The wife has changed her story two times already. If I go to the board they will know this also.

nerdtonurse?, BSN, RN

1 Article; 2,043 Posts

Specializes in ICU, Telemetry.

I was reading the posts and something really hit me -- the thing about them needing a LVN on staff, needed or not, so they could bill Medicare / Medicaid. If that's what was going on, isn't that Medicare fraud? If that's what they were doing, charging Medicare / Medicaid a fortune for services not rendered, the goverment would eat them alive. There was a lab several years ago that had a run in with them about fraudulent billing, and they were fined literally hundreds of millions of dollars. Whether or not you go to the peer review, whether or not you retain an attorney, I'd absolutely report them to Medicare (assuming I understand the situation correctly).

gr8rnpjt, RN

738 Posts

Specializes in Case Management.

You may not know this, but hospice in many areas doesn't have a good reputation...they are seen as how to get medications and other things without having to make a hospital visit. This is because it is very, very difficult for them to keep quality, experienced staff, so they have to rely on alot of new grads, or others that can't work other types of nursing jobs for whatever reason.

I was not aware of this. I thought that the most compassionate and caring nurses must be in hospice due to the nature of the assignments. :stone

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