Ethics: Does it bother you when people are in nursing to make money? - page 6

I just wondered if others as I do feel there are some in our line of work who look at money, security of earnings first rather than having a passion for their patient's welfare or wanting to work at... Read More

  1. by   davb
    I'm not a nurse yet, just a first semester student. My clinical instructor said she would not want any student to graduate unless they stood up for the nursing profession as a profession. She is nice as can be and tough as h*ll, a NP with years of experience. She raised her voice when saying this and everyone in our clinical group knew she meant it. I thought I wanted to do this to help people, it pays about the same as my current construction trade. I know after going to clinicals with the variety of people and tasks you have to deal with, while also knowing your stuff. Nurses are underpaid in general. After reading posts on here for a while, I really agree with most of the people on this thread.
    I want to do the best job I can, just like I do in my current job. I want top pay for the trade of nursing, just like my current job. Why work for a company that doesn't care about its workers? If they don't care about you who they see everyday at work, how much do they care about the patients I wonder? Not much I bet.
  2. by   Agnus
    Quote from Kyrshamarks
    Nah...I just have always been a crappy typist....:selfbonk:
    So that is the real reason we are nurses!
  3. by   Lovely_RN
    I'm not going into it for the money because there are other jobs and professions out there that pay a lot more w/o having to jump through all of the hoops that we do to get educated and licensed.

    My BIL is a union construction worker, he has a HS diploma and no license to worry about. His salary is almost double what I will start off with as an LPN and it is MORE than what my new grad BSN cousin makes... so how do you like them apples?

    When I was a CNA I worked my butt off and I always treated the patients very well. I will be the same kind of nurse once I graduate but I will not have a twinge of guilt about taking the best paid job that I can find (factoring in ratios, benefits etc).

    I am not a martyr and I am NOT going to be made to feel guilty because I want a salary that reflects how vitally important my job is.

    I get sick of the "What would Flo do" mentality that seems to rise up every now and again. If I wanted to take a vow of poverty I would have skipped NS school hell and joined a convent.
  4. by   GilaRRT
    I am not sure there is anything else to discuss when GilaRN and somebody with the phrase "Evil Liberal" after their name agree.
  5. by   cloister
    Well, I'm kind of afraid to admit it, but I consider nursing my calling.

    Simply put, it's where I'm most apt to encounter the sacred, and after 20 years I still consider myself privileged to be a nurse and work with people in their worst moments.

    That being said, let me hasten to add that I make about 4X what I did as a new grad. I accept every penny of it. I won't be turning down any raises, either.

    I remember raising my hand as a sophomore in our "Intro to Nursing" class to ask the ICU RN guest speaker about salaries in critical care. I thought the head of our department, whom we called "Atilla the Nun", was going to stroke. I guess she couldn't see how a 20 year old with no intention of joining a religious order could possibly be interested in money. I was already thinking of the family I hoped someday to raise, and as one of our previous posters so aptly put it, altruism won't pay the bills.

    I will say that there isn't enough money minted to make the job worthwhile if you don't like people on some level. Some nights, I'm convinced there isn't enough money minted, period, depending on what comes up from the ER or who's on call!

    So, yeah, it's my "calling", but it's also paying for my kid's gymnastics and putting money in my retirement fund. It's turned out to be a pretty darned lucrative calling, and I'm glad I chose it!
  6. by   lamazeteacher
    I'd have to volunteer, as at the age of 68, the armed services wouldn't employ me in (God forbid) WW III.
  7. by   IMustBeCrazy
    I'm guessing that many attorneys may enjoy their jobs *and* the money they make. Docs may like their jobs *and* the money they make. Veterinarians may like their jobs *and* the money they make.....you get the point.

    Why shouldn't a nurse both enjoy their job *and* the money they make?

    No one would expect less for any other profession.
  8. by   jmgrn65
    Quote from IMustBeCrazy
    I'm guessing that many attorneys may enjoy their jobs *and* the money they make. Docs may like their jobs *and* the money they make. Veterinarians may like their jobs *and* the money they make.....you get the point.

    Why shouldn't a nurse both enjoy their job *and* the money they make?

    No one would expect less for any other profession.
    I think that is great, but I don't think that was the intention of the thread. My take is the people that go in to nurses just to make money not necessarily because they like nursing. There are nurses out there like that and they aren't very happy. I believe you can go into a profession for money and for the love of it. but the money isn't that great.
  9. by   Agnus
    Cloister,

    Very well put.
    Last edit by Agnus on Nov 20, '07
  10. by   Agnus
    I am hearing some people say there are a lot easier ways of making this kind of money. Are there really? Do you really know that? Do you really know they are easier or does it just look that way to you.

    I have been guilty in the past saying that but then I really examined my thought processes and the facts and I am not so sure.

    Bottom line (excuse the expression) when I became a nurse it was after many years of saying I would not because it takes the caregiver away from the personal care and even the bedside in some cases. I really did not want to get that detached from the people I was helping.

    However, circumstance in my life left me with options that were less than ideal, and few choices. I chose nursing one of the only two viable options that I had to make decent money. I chose it for the $$. I chose it because of the two options I had it was the one thing I (for me) knew I could live with and probably not get fired.

    It was familiar and therefore comfortable territory for me. My other option was on shaky ground as far as it being something I could count on to bring in a decent income.

    My other option required much more academic preparation and in hind site is not as lucrative.
  11. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from Dental Hygienist
    What you are actually complaining about is a person with a bad attitude and a bad work ethic; it is a character flaw and usually improves with maturity but sometimes does not. It is present in every profession from minimum wage to 6 figures a year. And, I totally agree with you; these people are irritating to say the least.

    As to your question about people just doing it for the money; I think that everyone works for money; but it's hard to imagine a nurse doing it JUST for the money because there are a lot better paying jobs out there if all a person cares about is money.

    I am not a nurse; I hope to attend nursing school Fall 2008. And believe it or not the money is actually what has kept me AWAY from nursing for so long. With all due respect, nurses really don't get paid that much in the grand scheme of things. I'll be taking a significant pay cut once I earn my RN. Not trying to start a fight here, but nurses are significantly underpaid, IMHO.
    I've looked into dental hygiene in order to get out of nursing. The problem is the mkt is saturated w/ RDHs in my area, just as it is w/ RNs.

    I can't believe someone would leave the better hours, better pay, and a whole lot less responsibility of dental hygiene to be a nurse.
  12. by   IMustBeCrazy
    Quote from jmgrn65
    I think that is great, but I don't think that was the intention of the thread. My take is the people that go in to nurses just to make money not necessarily because they like nursing. There are nurses out there like that and they aren't very happy. I believe you can go into a profession for money and for the love of it. but the money isn't that great.
    As long as a nurse can perform their job competently, leaves drama at home, treats patients well and is not a department liability, I could care less about the exact reason that led them into nursing.
    Last edit by IMustBeCrazy on Nov 20, '07
  13. by   jojotoo
    Quote from cloister
    Well, I'm kind of afraid to admit it, but I consider nursing my calling.


    I think that it's great that you consider nursing a calling. That may make it more personally satisfying to you than those who don't consider it a calling.

    To me, it's a job. A job with a heck of a lot of responsibility. A job that I take pride in doing well. And a job that I chose because I knew that it would pay well if I was willing to work hard.

    I think that I'm reasonably paid for what I do, but not overpaid. I make no apologies for accepting that pay.

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