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No. 10
from RNperdiem
Old Jul 04, 2009, 06:14 PM

Default Re: Do nurses have an advantage in becoming a doctor?
No.
The competition for med school is intense. A powerful determination, excellent grades and a high MCAT matter more than being a nurse.
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No. 11
from chrisciwi
Old Jul 04, 2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GilaRN View Post
Ok then. How exactly does nursing experience help one get into medical school?
Being a nurse DOES NOT HELP GET YOU INTO MED SCHOOL!!!!!!!


This is what a Medical School administrator said to me:

1) adcoms don't consider nursing to be a hard major. Actually it is considered easy. Chemical engineering is considered hard.
2) look at the stats from AAMC
http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/mcatgpabymaj08.htm
Specialized Health Science majors have the lowest mean score in every section of the MCAT and gpas on the low side. This explains why while 42% of all applicants get admitted to medical school, only 31% of specialized health science majors do.
3) nursing philosophy is different than that of medicine. In my opinion nursing training is torture for someone who wants to think like a physician.
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No. 12
from GilaRN
Old Jul 04, 2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisciwi View Post
Being a nurse DOES NOT HELP GET YOU INTO MED SCHOOL!!!!!!!

That was my point.
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No. 13
from okchug
Old Jul 04, 2009, 11:16 PM

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go lurk around on studentdoctor.net you'll soon learn what they think of nursing students. Comparing the two is like cats & dogs or apples & oranges - we are nothing alike. too bad really...
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No. 14
Old Jul 04, 2009, 11:28 PM

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My patients at the dialysis clinic always used to tell me I was so smart, I should go become a doctor.

My response to them: "What, you don't deserve a smart nurse?" (with a big smile, because they were trying to be sweet, and I know that, but still...)

If they go bad, and get sick...and believe me, dialysis patients can crap out on you, QUICK...is the doctor there to stabilize them until the paramedics get there?

Nope. Very unlikely. Not impossible, but they're there only about once a week.

Oh, and medical schools do NOT respect nurses. The residents look at me like I have another head when they first start out, and I have the *gasp* audacity to tell them what's going on...until they get the labs/CXR/other diagnostics back and realize...my coworkers and I were right all along.
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No. 15
Old Jul 05, 2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NurseKitten View Post
My patients at the dialysis clinic always used to tell me I was so smart, I should go become a doctor.

My response to them: "What, you don't deserve a smart nurse?" (with a big smile, because they were trying to be sweet, and I know that, but still...)

If they go bad, and get sick...and believe me, dialysis patients can crap out on you, QUICK...is the doctor there to stabilize them until the paramedics get there?

Nope. Very unlikely. Not impossible, but they're there only about once a week.

Oh, and medical schools do NOT respect nurses. The residents look at me like I have another head when they first start out, and I have the *gasp* audacity to tell them what's going on...until they get the labs/CXR/other diagnostics back and realize...my coworkers and I were right all along.
Before entering the nursing profession I admit I had the same biases.I changed my mind with the speed of light and quickly gained respect for the RN practice when I learn what does the nursing job entitles I now say " wow a nurse" instead of "just" a nurse As for the doctors,I think that there are few apples here and there but the majority will and do appreciate an effective nurse.
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No. 16
from diane227
Old Jul 05, 2009, 02:38 AM

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We have a new PA working for one of the general surgeons and he has no idea at all what he is doing. It is clear that he has never been in a hospital. I have to watch him like a hawk. He could have benefited from at least having some CNA experience.
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No. 17
from nurse12b
Old Jul 05, 2009, 04:30 AM

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YES!!! I do think nurses have an advantage on becomming a Dr. For the pts sake. Because if you are a nurse first and then become a Dr. you will still have the bedside manner as a nurse and not just as a Dr. You will have a medical background and you won't start in medical school not know anything in the medical field. Who care what other med students think everyone will have an opinion of you anyway. Think of what is est for your pt. When I first started school I wanted to be a Dr. but I also needed a degree first and so I decided nursing, that is because there is nothing else I would want to do I have been in the medical field all my life and I could not see getting any other degree. Beside what if something happens and you don't get to go to medical school at least you will be a nurse in the medical field. I know someone that got a Bio and Spanish degree and he really wanted to be a Dr. and take care of pts. well now he is a teacher at a high school because he could not get into med school. He really wanted to be in the Medical field because he loved helping people. I started out being a CNA then an EMT now I working on getting into nursing school as an OB nurse and if I can in the future I would becaome a Dr. OB for my speacialty. So if you want to have the same speacialty as a Dr. as a nurse then there will be more of an advantage. So go right ahead become a Dr. a nurse will be a GREAT DR. better than any other Dr. Thats just my opinion
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No. 18
from NY_teach
Old Jul 05, 2009, 06:05 AM

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I got the chance to meet a doctor who was a nurse for ten years. The gist of my conversation with her is being an experienced nurse helped in the admission process because she had solid knowledge of health care, but that same experience can be gotten by volunteering.

Being a nurse gave her no advantage during the first two years of medical school. It did make the learning curve somewhat easier in in the third year. By the start of the forth year everyone was equal in knowledge and skill.

Her take home point, if you want to attend medical school, major in what you are interested in. The few advantages from majoring in health science are not worth the lost learning opportunities.
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No. 19
from carolina4
Old Jul 05, 2009, 09:47 AM

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of course because nursing job is harder than the doctors work,I assure you that maybe on the paper medical degree looks impressive and yes I admit those guys have to study their a...off in school however in real life nurses are the ones who take upon the greater responsiblity,multi task, and end up coordinating care.I'm sure a lot of individuals disagree with me,feel welcome I'm just sharing my personal opinion on this very matter.
This is really not true. Both RNs and MDs work very hard. Yeah, we have long 12 hour shifts that are intense, but I don't think that makes our job all around harder. I am engaged to a radiology resident who had to do internal medicine for a year first where he BUSTED HIS A** constantly for 30+ hours every 3 days for a year. Now in radiology he is having to read NONSTOP. Both jobs are really really difficult and rewarding when the two professions *work together*
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