Differences between Medical Assistants and Registered Nurses?

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I ran into an old friend from elementary school and she brought up that she was graduating soon from a 12 month long MA program. I am not sure, but I guess she had begun her 4 month long clinical phase(?). I congratulated her on her success (she graduated with honors) and I mentioned that we had something in common, that I also was entering the medical field. I told her that I had just been accepted into a RN program a few days prior (I was still in shock ). As soon as I said that, she got really defensive. She began stating that MAs do 90% of what RNs do, if not more. MAs get paid almost the same as RNs because the knowledge is the basically the same:uhoh3:.

She basically said that RNs and MAs are the same except that MAs don't do IVs.

Then she proceeded to tell me how she hated the RNs in her clinicals.

After a while she calmed down and said that she wanted to be a RN but went the MA route because she was getting a break with the tuition. She also plans on eventually going into a RN program once she is more financially able. My question is how similar are MAs and RNs? I worked at an internal med office for a year and I remember pretty well what our MA did most of the time (she trained me).Then again I am sure there are more skills under her belt that she just never had the chance to use within that year. Once she began talking then my defences went up as well (I felt like she was putting me down), although I kept quiet because who am I to say anything, I am not a nurse yet , right? ;)

Since I did not attent school with her, how do I know what her curriculum consisted of? So now I am turning to you ladies and gents to educate me on how similar or different MAs and RNs are.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
I have considered becoming a Medical Assistant, because it would be a big step up from CNA. I do not consider a Medical Assistant equal in training to a LVN or LPN, but in certain settings, I think their tech skills are very valid. I do think in medical offices, it is important to employ RNs and not rely on MAs for assessment. I am interested in knowing what you all think of going that route in education, since time and money are a big issue for me. I get a bit mixed up on with whether you all see MAs as a good thing.

I considered it for one brief second, but decided not to when i found out they make literally minimum wage here, and i made almost twice that as a CNA, only with a CNA job, i had more flexiability.

Specializes in EMS, ortho/post-op.
I am a CMA and starting nursing school in the fall. I do not make crap at my job (but I stay because they worked around my school when doing pre-requs) I have been there just over four years now and I am JUST making $9.50...and since I am part time with school and all they do not give me any benifits...they say this is because I am "per-diem" but with all the money they are saving by not paying for my heath insurance every month, two weeks paid vacation every year or paid holidays and sick days... I should be getting way more than that an hour. Oh, and starting nurses here start at about $20-25 and hour...thats way different than my four years of experience pay....

Have you thought about working in a hospital as a unit secretary? That's what I do and I make more than you once you add in shift diff and weekend pay. My base pay is $8.80, plus $1 extra for weekends and $1.50 extra for working night shift. And they are great about school since we're very short of nurses. There is one girl on another floor who is a CMA and CNA and unit secretary and she is very good at her job. It might be something to consider. Or you could try the nurse extern programs, they tend to pay pretty well too.

I have considered becoming a Medical Assistant, because it would be a big step up from CNA. I do not consider a Medical Assistant equal in training to a LVN or LPN, but in certain settings, I think their tech skills are very valid. I do think in medical offices, it is important to employ RNs and not rely on MAs for assessment. I am interested in knowing what you all think of going that route in education, since time and money are a big issue for me. I get a bit mixed up on with whether you all see MAs as a good thing.

*big* step up from CNA? Depends how you look at it. What I know of MA's is from when I go to the doctor or ob/gyn. They take my weight, vitals signs and hx and leave my chart for the doctor. THey make about $8 starting out in my area.

CNA's can work in hospitals. Sure they have a harder job, but they do more things. Are offered sign on bonus's. Can work registry. And make a starting salary higher than that of MA's. As a CNA while in nursing school I made $12.25/hr and got to pick my shifts every week since I was pool. I also had a sign on bonus of 1k.

I think CNA and MA are different jobs. One is not a step up from the other. They are just different.

Rebecca

I went to MA school when I was 18 years old. I remember it being extremely easy. I made 8 bucks an hour as an MA, but this was about 16 years ago. Then I went to LVN school, which of course was harder, and an LVN has much more responsibility than an MA. Since I work for a home health agency, doing "private duty", or one on one care, I only make $16.75 an hour. I could earn $22/hr in the hospital. I am now back in school, AGAIN, this time taking pre-reqs for the RN program. Let me tell you, the pre-reqs for RN school are 10 times harder than LVN school, and 100 times harder than MA school. Which is why, if I make it out alive, I will be able to earn $35/hr.

Specializes in Nursing assistant.
*big* step up from CNA? Depends how you look at it. What I know of MA's is from when I go to the doctor or ob/gyn. They take my weight, vitals signs and hx and leave my chart for the doctor. THey make about $8 starting out in my area.

CNA's can work in hospitals. Sure they have a harder job, but they do more things. Are offered sign on bonus's. Can work registry. And make a starting salary higher than that of MA's. As a CNA while in nursing school I made $12.25/hr and got to pick my shifts every week since I was pool. I also had a sign on bonus of 1k.

I think CNA and MA are different jobs. One is not a step up from the other. They are just different.

Rebecca

I do get good pay in home health as a CNA (actually, great pay), I am really just interested in working in a hospital because I like to be more active, and a bit more challenged. Did LTC, and loved the constant activity, but really want to move on to something with more tech skills. I thought that MAs had about a year of education, which is a real step up for me with six weeks training, and 12 years experience.

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
I thought that MAs had about a year of education, which is a real step up for me with six weeks training, and 12 years experience.
My state-approved medical assistant program was four months in length. Altogether it added up to 480 clock hours of education.
Specializes in Nursing assistant.
My state-approved medical assistant program was four months in length. Altogether it added up to 480 clock hours of education.

Think this may be one source of confusion when discussing MA's: there just doesn't seen to be a national standard for what amount of training is required. So, in your state it may only take four months, but in some places it takes as long as LPN training. geesh, this is confusing.

None the less: MA does not equal LPN, they are just so different. Think MA focuses on tech skills and even clerical , where LPN is focused on nursing skills. Real different.

So, I had considered MA ( the year program) cause I thought it would be more within my grasp, and would be so much more than I have now. LPN, I am not sure I have the aptitude for that.

Chadash, How do you know if you have the aptitude or not if you don't try? I believe anyone with average intelligence can accomplish anything they set their mind to if they work at it. Are there any preq's you can take for the LPN program? Maybe start taking those and see how you do. Don't sell yourself short!

Here's my 2cnts.........why go to school for a year to be an MA when you can go to school for a year and be an LVN? Atleast once you're an LVN you can bridge to be an RN in a year or less whereas as an MA you have no educational background that will meet any requirements for a bridge program, therefor meaning you would have to start from scratch. I'm now an RN but as an LVN I made $30/hr doing agency.....try making that as an MA.....and as an LVN you can travel nurse, do IV's, IV pushes, IVPB, a bunch of things (depending on where you work).

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

MA school is typically cheaper, that might be one reason why it's shosen.

I thought that MAs had about a year of education, which is a real step up for me with six weeks training, and 12 years experience.

They can do the same physical things as MA's, such as vitals. And with a PCT class they can do phlebotomy, EKGs and other microbiology tests.

I think the reason MA school is longer is because they go through computer classes and insurance stuff for their back office knowledge.

But IMO it's not correct to say MA is a step up, because they don't get paid more, but your right, they probably do have more school which means higher student loans for basically the same job as a PCT.

Specializes in Nursing assistant.
They can do the same physical things as MA's, such as vitals. And with a PCT class they can do phlebotomy, EKGs and other microbiology tests.

I think the reason MA school is longer is because they go through computer classes and insurance stuff for their back office knowledge.

But IMO it's not correct to say MA is a step up, because they don't get paid more, but your right, they probably do have more school which means higher student loans for basically the same job as a PCT.

Is that a patient care tech?

I dont think there is anywhere in my area that trains for that, but I could pick up phlebotomy. I would really like to do EKGs: don't know where I could get that training though. I did memorize a boatload of arrythmias, call me crazy;)

So, if I could gather some of these skills, I would not be that far behind anyhow? I have spent some considerable time on medical vocabulary, but I would rather put a cigar out in my right eye than to work a clerical position. UGH!

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